What The Liberals Did To Canada

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

So you agree with me on this one.

That's not actually what you said so no. What you said was that carney never claimed that our relationship with the united states was over

And you are 100% wrong. Carney did say that.

But I love that you say something wrong, I correct you and say something right, and then you try and pretend that that's what you said a whole along     

38 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

It's just that your bloated ego had to rephrase it so you can do a Charlie Sheen. " Look at me! I'm winning!" Well at least you found the sense to agree with me.

No, what you said was wrong. And if there's an ego problem here it's yours.

Carney said that the relationship we have with the united states is over. You claimed he didn't but he did. Nobody here has suggested that that means that we would never speak with the united states again. But it does mean that he said the relationship was over and he did.

Now he's trying to suggest that the relationship isn't over and it's just fine and we're all excited about continuing with the relationship that's always been there and we will make America great again

I honestly don't understand how someone can manage to delete themselves to be the kind of mindless minion that you are

[Goddess]

For both the Canadian public and the Canadian media - instead of tone-policing Poilievre, *THIS* is what you should be paying attention to.

Five bills. One hundred days. Canada's federal government is building surveillance infrastructure that would require every Canadian to prove their identity to access ordinary websites, allow secret government orders to build interception tools, and hand sweeping power over our digital lives to a single Cabinet-appointed body.

Link to article in post.

 

 

[Goddess]

The Id10t King just admired China's surveillance state and control over its' people.  Carney is implementing it.

 

 

[Goddess]

In a midnight move, the Liberal gov't cut off debate on Bill C-22, which will grant police new powers & ramp up state surveillance infrastructure, threatening privacy & cybersecurity across Canada.

No debate, no amendments, no expert witnesses called, no voter input.  The most controversial surveillance bill ever - rammed through parliament.

Read the statement from 21 experts & orgs denouncing the move.

Privacy experts and civil liberties groups denounce the Liberal government’s shut down of much-needed debate on dangerous state surveillance bill C-22 - International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group

 

 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Goddess said:

In a midnight move, the Liberal gov't cut off debate on Bill C-22, which will grant police new powers & ramp up state surveillance infrastructure, threatening privacy & cybersecurity across Canada.

No debate, no amendments, no expert witnesses called, no voter input.  The most controversial surveillance bill ever - rammed through parliament.

Read the statement from 21 experts & orgs denouncing the move.

Privacy experts and civil liberties groups denounce the Liberal government’s shut down of much-needed debate on dangerous state surveillance bill C-22 - International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group

 

 

I mean what did you expect? People that grossly distort the law to obtain total power are obviously going to distort the law to make use of that power

The liberals are authoritarian dictators. They're not interested in any debate or challenge to their rule

[Goddess]

 

 

It's beyond stupidity and well into corruption.

 

 

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The liberals are authoritarian dictators. They're not interested in any debate or challenge to their rule

All the opposition parties voted against this bill.  May is not the only parliamentarian sounding alarms about this bill and the way this government is operating..

 

 

Edited Saturday at 05:01 PM by Goddess

[CdnFox]

Just now, Goddess said:

 

 

It's beyond stupidity and well into corruption.

 

 

The hilarious thing is it was always the people on the left who insisted that the housing crisis was the fault of the Developers and that landlords are evil. I guess they forgot that Carney's companies have been major leaders in renovictions as well. 

And it's not just the liberal supporters, the NDP and their supporters all back these guys. You know, to keep the evil conservatives out because they would have been nice to their corporate friends 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[CdnFox]

Just now, Goddess said:

All the opposition parties voted against this bill.  May is not the only parliamentarian sounding alarms about this.

 

 

It means nothing. The liberals are not interested in the democratic process. May was the first one to let the budget pass based on "deciding" to believe liberal lies when she knew better and she has no credibility.  She supported the liberals for the last 11 years and it's far too late now for her to put down her donut and speak up. 

This is the government that the left elected. Too late to complain about it now

[CdnFox]

Oh and it looks like we're "Pro" slave labour now when it's china

Carney bill criticized for slave labour loophole on Chinese imports

[CdnFox]

And thank god we've got a banker in charge, who can really power up our ecnomy:

The Canadian dollar keeps on tumbling, hitting 14-month lows. There’s one key reason why - The Globe and Mail

14 month low.  How long has he been in office again?

That's going to raise the cost of everything we buy as well 

Edited Saturday at 05:10 PM by CdnFox

[Goddess]

 

 

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, Goddess said:

In a midnight move, the Liberal gov't cut off debate on Bill C-22, which will grant police new powers

Isn't it a bit of a given that law enforcement attracts people who are more conservative than progressive? So why would the police go along with such an awful left wing surveillance state?

This the left in action, seriously? How does that explain Greens and NDP voting against this?

The Overton window is clearly broken.

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Isn't it a bit of a given that law enforcement attracts people who are more conservative than progressive?

No. Actually there's very little evidence for that in canada. Law enforcement tends to attract people who are a little authoritarian but that goes left or right. Many police are on the left. 

Police orgs as a whole can tend to support the status quo which some would perceive as being a right wing attitude (tho that's not accurate) but not always by far. For example they've been ok with gun laws, they've been fine with the additional search laws being passed right now, etc and those are all very left of center ideologies. 

[eyeball]

40 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No. Actually there's very little evidence for that in canada.

That's not what the internet says. Our cops are as conservative and right wing as most police in other Western democracies and for the same reasons.

It should be easy for you to prove otherwise by finding police associations and unions speaking out against Bill C-22 or having more power.

Let us know how that works out.

 

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

That's not what the internet says.

 

Oh really. Well by all means post a link to where the internet says that police officers themselves in Canada are right wing  

It's never too early in the morning to make a fool out of you. 

[eyeball]

46 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well by all means post a link to where the internet says that police officers themselves in Canada are right wing

google.com

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

google.com

I love it when you admit that you're lying  

[Goddess]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

For example they've been ok with gun laws

I don't think this is true.  There were multiple police departments who issued public statements that they would not be participating in Carney's gun grab.

They know that legal, trained gun owners are not the problem.  Alberta, as a province, said they would not be confiscating anyones' guns.  I think Saskatchewan did, too.

[Goddess]

 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

I don't think this is true.  There were multiple police departments who issued public statements that they would not be participating in Carney's gun grab.

 

I don't think that was a problem with the concept, I think that they were worried about public backlash at the and the amount of energy and resources it would take to do it that wasn't being funded

I think lots of individual police officers don't like gun laws but again there's a difference between individual officers and the police organizations. A lot of officers directly supported things like the gun registry etc. I would guess that left wing and right wing support amongst the police probably isn't that much different than it is amongst Canada in general.

Everyone thinks that all military and police vote right wing and it's just not the case

 

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I love it when you admit that you're lying  

Where did I do that precisely?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I would guess...

LMAO! Yup, you're to lazy to even fact check yourself.

 

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

I don't think this is true.  There were multiple police departments who issued public statements that they would not be participating in Carney's gun grab.

They know that legal, trained gun owners are not the problem.  Alberta, as a province, said they would not be confiscating anyones' guns.  I think Saskatchewan did, too.

So again I ask why are cops apparently supportive of C-22? Why aren't we seeing police speaking out against Bill C-22 and being given more presumably leftist tools and powers to police us with?

This mystery presents an opportunity to explore this notion you people have that lefties are just naturally inclined towards authoritarianism and who just can't wait to prostrate themselves at the feet of their governments.

I know you think Carney is an extreme leftie but I assure you he's quite right wing from where real lefties are sitting.

Maybe I'm so leftwing I've come full circle. That might explain why I've long wondered what it is about conserving that conservatives don't get. Like I said, the Overton window is just a shattered pile of shards these days.

Edited 19 hours ago by eyeball

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Where did I do that precisely?

Literally where I just pointed it out. You have the memory of a goldfish I'm sure you'll demand that I post it next despite the fact that it's like one post about  

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

LMAO! Yup, you're to lazy to even fact check yourself.

 

A guess isn't fact kiddo, a fact you keep forgetting  

You're the one who made a claim and then had to admit he had no link to prove it