What The Liberals Did To Canada

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

Hard to say if it's good or bad at this point.  Carney won't say what all is in it.

We do know that China will be given access to our media and national security.  Not sure why that is, doesn't seem to have anything at all to do with trade.

Conservatives are demanding answers.

But I'm sure Carney's "Trust me, bro" is good enough for the likes of you.

No, what's good for me is seeing economic activity ramping up again which the reduction and elimination of tariffs to canola, lobster and crab do for those conservative farmers and fishermen.  Seeing that your trusted agent Trump is hell bent on decimating the Canadian auto industry I also see possible opportunity with Chinese investment there. And your problem with any of this is....what?

[Goddess]

Just now, LinkSoul60 said:

No, what's good for me is seeing economic activity ramping up again which the reduction and elimination of tariffs to canola, lobster and crab do for those conservative farmers and fishermen.  Seeing that your trusted agent Trump is hell bent on decimating the Canadian auto industry I also see possible opportunity with Chinese investment there. And your problem with any of this is....what?

It's already been postponed by the Chinese, so there is no ramping up of anything right now, if ever.  You seem to be one of those who believe MOU's signed is the same as actual activity.

So far, we have a lot of pieces of paper, but not much actually happening.

Canola farmers in SK have said this is just half-measures anyways and unlikely to do much.

I'm glad you're so happy that we are choosing communist China, who has f*&ked over everyone else who tried to do trade with them, as our closest ally instead of the US.

I'm sure they won't do to us what they did to everyone else.  We're special, right?

[LinkSoul60]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

Comprehension problem?

I have no comprehension challenges whatsoever.  You on the other hand clearly have challenges with rational thought and explanation of your partisan comments.  

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

One of the other countries who wanted it but the Libs told them to F off, for starters.

Having trouble connecting the dots on this one?  Are you thinking the only country in the world who uses oil & gas is China, or.......???

So again...  who are we going to sell it to and who the hell is going to invest 10's of billions of dollars into a pipeline if selling to the worlds second largest economy isn't an option.  Help me connect the dots.

[Shady]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

BC hasn't had a liberal government since 2017.  Maybe search for a more accurate documentary.

Didn't know that, but a very nice annual salary range don't you think....

Seems to me, out here anyway, that it's only the further right fools like you that are the only ones crying about patriotism if doesn't align with your partisan views.

If it's that bad for you, maybe you should put your bunker on the market and leave Canada.  Just a thought....

No, Canadian's don't hate the US.  They hate Trump.

How exactly have we done that?  Try a bit harder than allowing 50K affordable EV's into the country though.  That said, I'm sure you're a vocal proponent of a northern pipeline to see more oil to communist China, right... 

 

Very sad indeed...

The decline is a result of the federal Liberals.  Their policies affect every province and territory, regardless of party.

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Our country has gone downhill so badly, and in so many areas, that it cannot be explained by simple incompetence.

It has to be on purpose.

Why do Liberal supporters - supposedly the most patriotic people in the whole country - keep rewarding this?  Who are they patriotic to - the Liberal Party or the actual country of Canada?

I think the answer is clear.

They would rather see the country burn down, as long as their "team" is in power.

That is not Patriotism.

Our decline is really depressing.  It's almost all self inflicted.  The worst part is that it didn't have to be this way.

[Shady]

14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No, what's good for me is seeing economic activity ramping up again which the reduction and elimination of tariffs to canola, lobster and crab do for those conservative farmers and fishermen.  Seeing that your trusted agent Trump is hell bent on decimating the Canadian auto industry I also see possible opportunity with Chinese investment there. And your problem with any of this is....what?

The economy shrank last quarter, and the canola, sea food tariffs were a retaliation for Liberal imposed tariffs on China.  As a result, Canada now was to accept Chinese EVs, when that wasn't the case before the Liberals decided to hit China with EV tariffs.  We ended up worse off than before the Liberal tariffs were enacted.  That's some of the genius Liberal economic policy that's put Canada on a steady path of decline.

[Shady]

7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So again...  who are we going to sell it to and who the hell is going to invest 10's of billions of dollars into a pipeline if selling to the worlds second largest economy isn't an option.  Help me connect the dots.

Nobody will as long as the Liberals keep terrible restrictions, like tanker bans in place.  Nobody can export oil from the west coast, so no pipeline will ever be privately built until these barriers are eliminated.

 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I have no comprehension challenges whatsoever.  You on the other hand clearly have challenges with rational thought and explanation of your partisan comments.  

Canola is making headlines again. It’s been the centre of trade negotiations with China since last year, when that country instituted 100 per cent tariffs on canola oil and meal in retaliation for Canadian tariffs on  electric vehicles, instituted at the behest of the United States.

Now, as Prime Minister Mark Carney wraps up his trip to China, there’s a new canola deal, which would see canola seed tariffs drop to 15 per cent (from nearly 76 per cent) by March, and tariffs on canola meal removed completely. The preliminary agreement makes no mention of tariffs on canola oil.

With the U.S. and Canada now frenemies, Carney is trying to expand our trade network, including rejuvenating a long-icy Canada-China relationship. But even if dropping vehicle tariffs to restart the flow of canola makes sense geopolitically, it could be a problem nationally, with Ontario’s auto industry and Prairies canola growers at total disagreement about which trade stream is more important.  

It appears, for the time being at least, the Prairies got their way. The deal for lower canola tariffs also allows close to 50,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the Canadian market — not great news for Ontario’s auto sector.

“Make no mistake: China now has a foothold in the Canadian market and will use it to their full advantage at the expense of Canadian workers,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said in response to the news.

The tariffs are still in place and could possibly drop in March.

You want to use this as reason to Champion the Carney? 

[LinkSoul60]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's already been postponed by the Chinese, so there is no ramping up of anything right now, if ever.  You seem to be one of those who believe MOU's signed is the same as actual activity.

So far, we have a lot of pieces of paper, but not much actually happening.

Canola farmers in SK have said this is just half-measures anyways and unlikely to do much.

I'm glad you're so happy that we are choosing communist China, who has f*&ked over everyone else who tried to do trade with them, as our closest ally instead of the US.

I'm sure they won't do to us what they did to everyone else.  We're special, right?

lol... try again;  Canadian canola farmers are shipping significantly more product to China as of early 2026, with approximately 600,000 tonnes of canola already en route or booked following a trade breakthrough.

Besides not knowing what's even happening with your beloved CPC Prairie hotbed you seem to also be out of the know in what's happening with the US f*cking our lumber, steel and auto industries over in an attempt to break them.  Given you don't understand what's happening next door I'm not surprised you're not aware of the potential trade relationship and discussions with China that are calculated with so-called guardrails.  

Did you have a problem with the agreements Harper's government signed with China back in 2014, or just compelled to rail on this because it's a liberal government?

[LinkSoul60]

12 minutes ago, Shady said:

The decline is a result of the federal Liberals.  Their policies affect every province and territory, regardless of party.

Our decline is really depressing.  It's almost all self inflicted.  The worst part is that it didn't have to be this way.

lol.... Shady!  The guy responsible for populating 25 of the 35 'what the liberals did to Canada' thread. Yes, I figured out long ago that you believe the world's problems are because of liberals. 

[LinkSoul60]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

Canola is making headlines again. It’s been the centre of trade negotiations with China since last year, when that country instituted 100 per cent tariffs on canola oil and meal in retaliation for Canadian tariffs on  electric vehicles, instituted at the behest of the United States.

Now, as Prime Minister Mark Carney wraps up his trip to China, there’s a new canola deal, which would see canola seed tariffs drop to 15 per cent (from nearly 76 per cent) by March, and tariffs on canola meal removed completely. The preliminary agreement makes no mention of tariffs on canola oil.

With the U.S. and Canada now frenemies, Carney is trying to expand our trade network, including rejuvenating a long-icy Canada-China relationship. But even if dropping vehicle tariffs to restart the flow of canola makes sense geopolitically, it could be a problem nationally, with Ontario’s auto industry and Prairies canola growers at total disagreement about which trade stream is more important.  

It appears, for the time being at least, the Prairies got their way. The deal for lower canola tariffs also allows close to 50,000 Chinese electric vehicles into the Canadian market — not great news for Ontario’s auto sector.

“Make no mistake: China now has a foothold in the Canadian market and will use it to their full advantage at the expense of Canadian workers,” Ontario Premier Doug Ford said in response to the news.

The tariffs are still in place and could possibly drop in March.

You want to use this as reason to Champion the Carney? 

Great copy and paste, that still doesn't answer why you believe the evil liberals are unpatriotic because of this agreement....  what part of that are you hanging on.  Is it what Ford said, or...?

[LinkSoul60]

17 minutes ago, Shady said:

The economy shrank last quarter, and the canola, sea food tariffs were a retaliation for Liberal imposed tariffs on China.  As a result, Canada now was to accept Chinese EVs, when that wasn't the case before the Liberals decided to hit China with EV tariffs.  We ended up worse off than before the Liberal tariffs were enacted.  That's some of the genius Liberal economic policy that's put Canada on a steady path of decline.

Any ideas why the economy softened.... Think it might have anything to do with lumber, steel, aluminum or auto exports?  

Try reading a bit more...  Chinese auto's have been coming into Canada for years under the names of Volvo, polestar and Buick. By all measures their manufacturers now produce well rated vehicles and if you can buy a good EV for under $35K, hell yeah people will buy them, just like the other 80%of everything you have in your home and elsewhere that is produced in China.

But your solution to someone who is trying to decimate our auto industry is....what?

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Great copy and paste, that still doesn't answer why you believe the evil liberals are unpatriotic because of this agreement....  what part of that are you hanging on.  Is it what Ford said, or...?

So what about the copy and paste do you want to refute?

Sucking up to China over a blunder by a previous PM.

Pray do tell what is it about China that causes the Liberals to fawn like 5 year old's watching Taylor Swift.

[LinkSoul60]

18 minutes ago, Legato said:

So what about the copy and paste do you want to refute?

Sucking up to China over a blunder by a previous PM.

Pray do tell what is it about China that causes the Liberals to fawn like 5 year old's watching Taylor Swift.

Given its factual and speaks to the agreement I don't refute any of it.  I do though disagree with Ford's assessment given our current landscape, but guessing Ford has as well by now and will most certainly change his tune if in fact China was ever to invest in an auto plant here.

You clearly have a different definition of sucking up.  Removing tariff barriers that inhibit trade for the ~40,000 canola farmers and countless fishermen is sound business in the current situation we're in.

Pray tell why I'll assume you had no issues with Harper's China agreements, or doesn't that count?

[LinkSoul60]

51 minutes ago, Shady said:

Nobody will as long as the Liberals keep terrible restrictions, like tanker bans in place.  Nobody can export oil from the west coast, so no pipeline will ever be privately built until these barriers are eliminated.

 

Well the ball is in Smith's court now so we'll see if she can make progress, which I doubt.  And finding an investor for a diminishing commodity that will take years and 10's of billions of dollars isn't likely.  My 2 cents.

As far as 'terrible' tanker bans are concerned....  of course they are to you.  You don't live on the coast nor do you depend on it for your way of life or livelihood.  Who cares if there was a spill in the Hecate Strait right.... F' em, we just need another pipeline because PP said so!

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

The economy shrank last quarter

Okay, but the income and wealth gap grew bigger!

Stop being such a Debbie Downer all the time.

[LinkSoul60]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Stop being such a Debbie Downer all the time.

Shady if he had to say something positive; 😶

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Won't/can;t answer why the China tariff agreement is so bad.  You're a simple minded hack...

But you are correct in... I am in the large majority of Canadian's who don't like Poilievre.  

There is no agreement. Have you seen anything in writing?

We gave up our tariffs on their vehicles and provided a promise to sell a certain number of vehicles here in Canada. In addition our police were ordered to cooperate with the Chinese secret service.

In return trying to set it with seriously considered reducing some of the tariffs on our Seafood. But only some and on some types of seafood not at all. And no guarantee they won't raise it the next day. Meanwhile we have absolutely committed to a certain number of their cars and once their cars are here we have to keep going in order to make sure we get spare parts

So basically all we did was kind of cave and hope that they treat us fairly. An agreement might very well have been a good thing but we don't have one. They have a benefit and they have all the power in the world over our stuff

Did you need any more? Is that enough?

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Okay, but the income and wealth gap grew bigger!

 

That means that the liberals are hurting the poorest people more than they are hurting the richest people although both are getting hurt

And I told you ages ago this is exactly what would happen. You were told that the policies that both Trudeau and Carney are pursuing will impact the most vulnerable Canadians first.

And now that's happening. What a surprise.

Maybe pay attention.

[eyeball]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That means that the liberals are hurting the poorest people more than they are hurting the richest people although both are getting hurt

Careful you don't crush those pearls now, you know how precious they are.

 

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And I told you ages ago this is exactly what would happen. You were told that the policies that both Trudeau and Carney are pursuing will impact the most vulnerable Canadians first.

Please, I knew feeding the rich would result in this way way back in the day - back when you were probably still dressing up your GI Joe action figures in your sister's Barbie doll clothes.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Careful you don't crush those pearls now, you know how precious they are.

LOL you're the one crying and gnashing his teeth over the subject, i just simply pointed out the truth 

But once gain I was right and you're wrong and you're angry and want it to be mu fault. 

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Please, I knew feeding the rich would result in this way way back in the day -

But it didn't. In fact things didn't start to get bad until the liberals took over and we saw left-wing policies enacted.

It's not really that the rich are much richer, it's the the poor are poorer. which is precisely what I predicted.

It is you and your kind and your policies that have led to this. This isn't the fault of the rich, and it's not the fault of the conservatives. This is the fault of the liberals in the NDP and their policies which inevitably hurt the poor first. As predicted

[Goddess]

RCMP whistleblower on the failure of the Liberal's soft on crime rules and how tired he is of it.  He says good cops are quitting because of it.

But keep on voting for this party, Elbows Up people!  You know, we have to be compassionate to the child rapists, they had hard lives!  F*&K the children, who cares about them, amiright?

Gawd, you Liberal lefties make me sick.  There is something seriously wrong with you that you keep this fuquing party in power.

 

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

There is no agreement. Have you seen anything in writing?

We gave up our tariffs on their vehicles and provided a promise to sell a certain number of vehicles here in Canada. In addition our police were ordered to cooperate with the Chinese secret service.

In return trying to set it with seriously considered reducing some of the tariffs on our Seafood. But only some and on some types of seafood not at all. And no guarantee they won't raise it the next day. Meanwhile we have absolutely committed to a certain number of their cars and once their cars are here we have to keep going in order to make sure we get spare parts

So basically all we did was kind of cave and hope that they treat us fairly. An agreement might very well have been a good thing but we don't have one. They have a benefit and they have all the power in the world over our stuff

Did you need any more? Is that enough?

Yes I've seen the wording of the agreement. Try resetting your google search to allow the words left and liberal. You'll be more successful in finding information and less likely to get called out for your usual partisan nonsense.  

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2026/01/16/prime-minister-carney-forges-new-strategic-partnership-peoples#:~:text=Agri-food and trade are,China by 50% by 2030.

You talked a lot but didn't really say anything as you tried to deflect on deals that were praised by the canola farmers and fishermen it was affecting.  You're not connected with either industry are you? 

https://www.canolacouncil.org/news/canola-industry-welcomes-significant-progress-on-chinese-tariffs/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/nova-scotia-lobster-industry-surprised-elated-by-suspension-of-chinese-tariff/

 

China has investments in Canada but we need more and beyond the auto industry.....think energy.  The NA auto industry will eventually get back to a more normal cost and supply chain after tariffs are gone but what is the problem with a Chinese made vehicle competing at the low end of the price point scale?  Is it any different than half or probably more of your personal and home belongings being produced in China? I always thought competition was good for the consumer. I don't know what EV's are available in that price range but know if they're quality vehicles with a reliable parts and service infrastucture people will buy them.  

You clowns automatically dismiss it because that's what you do...  anything from a liberal can't be good unless PP thought of it first.  Clowns...   Anyway, TD Economics 2 cents;

• Canada and China recently entered a two-pronged strategic partnership. Tariff reductions will add an immediate layer of support to Canadian trade, while foreign investment benefits will unfold more slowly over time.
• The stock of Chinese direct investment in Canada could grow to around $90-100 billion over the next five years. This projection includes a cumulative $15 –25 billion of investment above a scenario in which no agreement was reached.
• Investment momentum is likely to remain strongest in Canada’s oil and gas sector, while EV, agri-food and technology investments will begin to gain traction. Investment in sensitive sectors like critical minerals, AI and telecommunication will remain tightly constrained by the Investment Canada Act.
• Deeper engagement with China has created some friction with the U.S. ahead of USMCA renegotiations, reinforcing limits on how far Canada can expand trade and investment ties.

Canada’s economic and investment cooperation framework with China pushes Canada’s global positioning in the right direction. The deal should provide modest near term trade support, though meaningful investment gains may take some more time. Over the medium-term, China will likely regain more of Canada’s FDI pie, an important shift as the nation seeks to drive substantial capital flows into the country. Oil, LNG and EV related supply chains stand out as the most likely beneficiaries, while areas such as critical minerals, AI and data intensive industries remain tightly constrained. Heightened U.S. sensitivities ahead of USMCA renegotiations reinforce clear limits on how far Canada can deepen investment ties with China.

https://economics.td.com/ca-china-canada-investment-relations#:~:text=Canada's energy sector%2C particularly oil,over the next several years.

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes I've seen the wording of the agreement. Try resetting your google search to allow the words left and liberal. You'll be more successful in finding information and less likely to get called out for your usual partisan nonsense.  

https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2026/01/16/prime-minister-carney-forges-new-strategic-partnership-peoples#:~:text=Agri-food and trade are,China by 50% by 2030.

You talked a lot but didn't really say anything as you tried to deflect on deals that were praised by the canola farmers and fishermen it was affecting.  You're not connected with either industry are you? 

https://www.canolacouncil.org/news/canola-industry-welcomes-significant-progress-on-chinese-tariffs/

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/nova-scotia-lobster-industry-surprised-elated-by-suspension-of-chinese-tariff/

 

China has investments in Canada but we need more and beyond the auto industry.....think energy.  The NA auto industry will eventually get back to a more normal cost and supply chain after tariffs are gone but what is the problem with a Chinese made vehicle competing at the low end of the price point scale?  Is it any different than half or probably more of your personal and home belongings being produced in China? I always thought competition was good for the consumer. I don't know what EV's are available in that price range but know if they're quality vehicles with a reliable parts and service infrastucture people will buy them.  

You clowns automatically dismiss it because that's what you do...  anything from a liberal can't be good unless PP thought of it first.  Clowns...   Anyway, TD Economics 2 cents;

 

• Canada and China recently entered a two-pronged strategic partnership. Tariff reductions will add an immediate layer of support to Canadian trade, while foreign investment benefits will unfold more slowly over time.
• The stock of Chinese direct investment in Canada could grow to around $90-100 billion over the next five years. This projection includes a cumulative $15 –25 billion of investment above a scenario in which no agreement was reached.
• Investment momentum is likely to remain strongest in Canada’s oil and gas sector, while EV, agri-food and technology investments will begin to gain traction. Investment in sensitive sectors like critical minerals, AI and telecommunication will remain tightly constrained by the Investment Canada Act.
• Deeper engagement with China has created some friction with the U.S. ahead of USMCA renegotiations, reinforcing limits on how far Canada can expand trade and investment ties.

 

 

Canada’s economic and investment cooperation framework with China pushes Canada’s global positioning in the right direction. The deal should provide modest near term trade support, though meaningful investment gains may take some more time. Over the medium-term, China will likely regain more of Canada’s FDI pie, an important shift as the nation seeks to drive substantial capital flows into the country. Oil, LNG and EV related supply chains stand out as the most likely beneficiaries, while areas such as critical minerals, AI and data intensive industries remain tightly constrained. Heightened U.S. sensitivities ahead of USMCA renegotiations reinforce clear limits on how far Canada can deepen investment ties with China.

https://economics.td.com/ca-china-canada-investment-relations#:~:text=Canada's energy sector%2C particularly oil,over the next several years.

You're an example of why we should be demanding our education money back from the teachers

That's not an agreement. I realize you probably not a lawyer, and may not even have finished high school, but surely to god even you can recognize that that's not an agreement. That is a press release

So you haven't seen any agreement documents I take it? Me neither. The simple reason for that is there isn't one

Did you want to try again?

[Goddess]

13 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

anything from a liberal can't be good

They haven't done anything good.  I don't trust them.  At all.

It's not that they made mistakes.  It's that they refuse to admit it.  And that means they have no intentions of fixing them.

Take Bill C-75 for just one.

It's been a disaster.

Canadians have suffered.

Canadians have DIED because of it.

Our quality of life has diminished greatly because of it.

And what did they prioritize when they got back into power?  Fuquing censorship bills.

The only reason they made an announcement the other day about bail reform is because the Conservative forced them to prioritize it.  They have to be dragged kicking and screaming to do the right thing.

And even then, they blame it on Trump, they blame it on the Conservatives, they blame it on Harper.

And Carney doesn't seem to have the balls to stand up to these same people sitting beside him in Parliament.  He's still continuing their agendas.

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But once gain I was right and you're wrong and you're angry and want it to be mu fault.

No you were quite wrong when said the rich are hurting under the Liberals. In 2025, the disposable income for Canada’s highest earners (top 20%) increased by 4.3% to 7.7% compared to 2024.

From 2024 - 2025 we went from having 76 billionaires to 89 while adding 117,000 new millionaires who now number some 2.1 million Canadians.

True the lowest 20% saw a 3% decline but...c'mon, scrape 'em off...besides, think about all the cheddar that'll be trickling down this year from the top.

You'll do better this year for sure. Cut a few extra coupons and Bob's your uncle.