Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 10 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: From your link in Jan 2025 till now...those chickens have already been eaten Long time ago and nothing since then We will see... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 4 minutes ago, I am Groot said: It's your cite. And yet you can't tell me what bill they allegedly obstructed or how that bill might have lowered prices. You are not a serious poster. As an intelligent person (?) I would have thought you realize that it is not my quote and is someone elses. The comment is form Mark Gerretsen. Ask him. My image is only to demonstrate that PP has 2 lobbyists from the companies he is dissing at every opportunity Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: We will see... Hey...lots of water under the bridge since January 2025. We have had an election and even got a new PM since that news. Old news has worn off. And clearly not been achieved. You said Alberta and BC are building a pipeline to the US...You were and are wrong. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: As an intelligent person (?) I would have thought you realize that it is not my quote and is someone elses. The comment is form Mark Gerretsen. Ask him. You've been here more than long enough to know that when you put a cite up, you're claiming it. If it's bullshit, you shouldn't have put it up. If you don't even know what it means, that's on you, not him. 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: My image is only to demonstrate that PP has 2 lobbyists from the companies he is dissing at every opportunity Every party has lobbyists or former lobbyists in the back room, not to mention in caucus and for the government, in cabinet. Carney himself, when he was CEO, spent much of his time lobbying governments, including China. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 27 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Hey...lots of water under the bridge since January 2025. We have had an election and even got a new PM since that news. Old news has worn off. And clearly not been achieved. You said Alberta and BC are building a pipeline to the US...You were and are wrong. Not old...still in progress. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 27 minutes ago, I am Groot said: You've been here more than long enough to know that when you put a cite up, you're claiming it. If it's bullshit, you shouldn't have put it up. If you don't even know what it means, that's on you, not him. Every party has lobbyists or former lobbyists in the back room, not to mention in caucus and for the government, in cabinet. Carney himself, when he was CEO, spent much of his time lobbying governments, including China. I will gladly claim it if it is mine but when it has someone elses name on it...it is illegal to claim it as your own. Could very well be but..if you are going to diss grocery stores and food retailers...using former lobbyists for those groups is dubious at best Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Not old...still in progress. Oh, I see. ...??? Well over a year old and considering Alberta and the Feds have made agreements lately..and BC government telling Alberta they will not approve a pipeline...kinda negates whatever from back then. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Shady Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Oh, I see. ...??? Well over a year old and considering Alberta and the Feds have made agreements lately..and BC government telling Alberta they will not approve a pipeline...kinda negates whatever from back then. Provinces have no jurisdiction in those decisions. It's all federal. So what BC wants or doesn't want is irrelevant. Quote
Goddess Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: As an intelligent person (?) I would have thought you realize that it is not my quote and is someone elses. The comment is form Mark Gerretsen. Ask him. This is the problem with Liberals - they don't verify anything that is said to them. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Oh, I see. ...??? Well over a year old and considering Alberta and the Feds have made agreements lately..and BC government telling Alberta they will not approve a pipeline...kinda negates whatever from back then. Its still being worked on. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shady said: Provinces have no jurisdiction in those decisions. It's all federal. So what BC wants or doesn't want is irrelevant. But what Alberta want is relevant??? LOL You are wrong, "Provinces have jurisdiction over pipelines located entirely within their borders, such as local distribution lines. However, under the Constitution, the federal government (via the Canada Energy Regulator) holds exclusive authority over interprovincial and international pipelines, meaning provinces cannot veto these projects." But, considering there is no federal pipeline (or any pipeline) being built...there is no need for veto. Edited February 20 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Its still being worked on. Really? Where? When? By whom? Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 41 minutes ago, Goddess said: This is the problem with Liberals - they don't verify anything that is said to them. What is there to verify??? Are you saying the two women were not lobbyists for Walmart and Westons? Jenni Byrne: As a top advisor and former campaign manager for Poilievre, Byrne owns Jenni Byrne + Associates (JB+A). Reports from early 2024 indicated that her firm listed six employees as registered lobbyists for Loblaw Companies Limited in Ontario. While it was noted she was not personally listed as the lobbyist, she was identified as a principal in the firm lobbying for the grocery giant. Melissa Lantsman: The Deputy Leader of the Conservative Party, who serves in a high-ranking position under Poilievre, previously filed more than 40 registrations as a lobbyist in Ontario between 2018 and 2020, with Walmart among the companies she lobbied for." Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: What is there to verify??? Are you saying the two women were not lobbyists for Walmart and Westons? Jenni Byrne: As a top advisor and former campaign manager for Poilievre, Byrne owns Jenni Byrne + Associates (JB+A). Reports from early 2024 indicated that her firm listed six employees as registered lobbyists for Loblaw Companies Limited in Ontario. While it was noted she was not personally listed as the lobbyist, she was identified as a principal in the firm lobbying for the grocery giant. Melissa Lantsman: The Deputy Leader of the Conservative Party, who serves in a high-ranking position under Poilievre, previously filed more than 40 registrations as a lobbyist in Ontario between 2018 and 2020, with Walmart among the companies she lobbied for." Now do Liberal lobbyists. My point, which you are consciously avoiding, is that you post things you do not verify before posting. We all do it from time to time, but you do it consistently. Your habit is to quickly Google something opposite and then post the first thing that comes up in Google. You give no serious thought to points and counterpoints. You're intellectually lazy and your political bias is OFF THE CHARTS. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Really? Where? When? By whom? Take a look... https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/alberta-government-signs-new-oil-and-gas-agreement-with-enbridge/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Goddess Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Are you saying the two women were not lobbyists for Walmart and Westons? I'm saying that I already know that sitting MP's cannot work as lobbyists - of either party. Some - from BOTH parties - were lobbyists before they became MP's. They cannot continue to be lobbyists while working as sitting MP's. BOTH parties also take donations from grocery companies. But you seem only offended when Conservatives do or once were lobbyists for grocery chains. This is what I see in you all the time. You're spitting all over your shirt when Conservatives do something, but when Liberals do the exact same thing - you have no problem with it. Edited February 20 by Goddess 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, Goddess said: Now do Liberal lobbyists. My point, which you are consciously avoiding, is that you post things you do not verify before posting. We all do it from time to time, but you do it consistently. Your habit is to quickly Google something opposite and then post the first thing that comes up in Google. You give no serious thought to points and counterpoints. You're intellectually lazy and your political bias is OFF THE CHARTS. Deflect deflect deflect. LOL It was verified...you just do not like it LOL You no like? Argue with Google LOL You do liberals former lobbyist LOL Seems to me "You're intellectually lazy and your political bias is OFF THE CHARTS." Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Shady Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: But what Alberta want is relevant??? LOL It does if the federal government agrees with them. The federal government has jurisdiction in regards to those types of decisions. Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Take a look... https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/alberta-government-signs-new-oil-and-gas-agreement-with-enbridge/ Once again...an old news piece...from January 06, 2025...to "will establish a working group to "evaluate future egress, transport, storage, terminalling and market access opportunities" across the company's expansive network."...... even before the election was called and before Trudeau stepped down. So, no work or anything on a building a pipeline...only agreement to "evaluate future events". Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Deflect deflect deflect. LOL It was verified...you just do not like it LOL You no like? Argue with Google LOL You do liberals former lobbyist LOL Seems to me "You're intellectually lazy and your political bias is OFF THE CHARTS." You verified it AFTER you posted it because you were forced to. You left out pertinent pieces of information, like that sitting MP's cannot work as lobbyists for grocery chains, so implying that Mellissa Lantzman is the cause of food inflation in Canada because she once was a grocery chain lobbyist is disingenuous and I think you know it. I'm hoping nobody is that stupid. Even you. Edited February 20 by Goddess 2 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Shady said: It does if the federal government agrees with them. The federal government has jurisdiction in regards to those types of decisions. Nope...the Feds said they are not building it...Alberta and BC have to find partners and the indigenous have to approve too. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Shady Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 Just now, ExFlyer said: So, no work or anything on a building a pipeline Yes, that's why Canada has to sell natural gas and oil to the United States at below market value. The United States then takes that natural gas and sells it to Europe at a profit. That's all because you and your disastrous Liberal party, and their terrible economic policies. 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Nope...the Feds said they are not building it...Alberta and BC have to find partners and the indigenous have to approve too. The Feds don't need to build it. But if they don't change policy, like tanker bans, etc, then no private company will build. So were just stuck in the same situation, thanks to you and your Liberal party. 2 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, Goddess said: I'm saying that I already know that sitting MP's cannot work as lobbyists - of either party. Some - from BOTH parties - were lobbyists before they became MP's. They cannot continue to be lobbyists while working as sitting MP's. BOTH parties also take donations from grocery companies. But you seem only offended when Conservatives do or once were lobbyists for grocery chains. This is what I see in you all the time. You're spitting all over your shirt when Conservatives do something, but when Liberals do the exact same thing - you have no problem with it. Who ever said anything about "sitting MP's"? Except you...just now LOL Never even mentioned sitting MP's....those women are not sitting MP's. One is top advisor and former campaign manager for Poilievre, and the other is the Deputy Leader of the Conservative Party. Again...deflect , deflect, deflect. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, Shady said: Yes, that's why Canada has to sell natural gas and oil to the United States at below market value. The United States then takes that natural gas and sells it to Europe at a profit. That's all because you and your disastrous Liberal party, and their terrible economic policies. The Feds don't need to build it. But if they don't change policy, like tanker bans, etc, then no private company will build. So were just stuck in the same situation, thanks to you and your Liberal party. What are you babbling about?? Why do you make shit up?? I am pointing out nationalists links are very old and not relevant. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: those women are not sitting MP's. And they are not grocery chain lobbyists. So blaming Mellissa Lantzman for food inflation in Canada is stupid. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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