Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Apparently science and fantasy are one and the same in your world. In my world, scientists have to be right at least some of the time. For 50+ years, climate scientists have been wrong about wvery single doom and gloom prediction. Every....single....one. Do you know what I do with people that are reliably wrong? I do the opposite of what they say. No, they have only been wrong about the timing, what they forecast is happening. 1 Quote
Legato Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 55 minutes ago, Aristides said: No, they have only been wrong about the timing, what they forecast is happening. Where? Quote
Shady Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 Hasn't the Antarctic gained ice over the last couple of years? Quote
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Legato said: Where? What do you mean by where? Glacial retreat is accelerating almost everywhere, particularly in the Arctic. this is well documented, not conjecture. The Antarctic may have gained ice for a couple of years but that doesn't reverse a trend that is decades long. Deniers go on about forest management but if our forest management policies haven't changed, why are fires so much more severe? Deniers will latch on anything to avoid reality. I have grand kids, I don't want to believe we may be approaching a tipping point either but I'm not stupid enough to think that just denying something will keep it from happening. 1 Quote
Legato Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 45 minutes ago, Aristides said: What do you mean by where? Glacial retreat is accelerating almost everywhere, particularly in the Arctic. this is well documented, not conjecture. The Antarctic may have gained ice for a couple of years but that doesn't reverse a trend that is decades long. Deniers go on about forest management but if our forest management policies haven't changed, why are fires so much more severe? Deniers will latch on anything to avoid reality. I have grand kids, I don't want to believe we may be approaching a tipping point either but I'm not stupid enough to think that just denying something will keep it from happening. Where? Quote
robosmith Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Apparently science and fantasy are one and the same in your world. In my world, scientists have to be right at least some of the time. For 50+ years, climate scientists have been wrong about wvery single doom and gloom prediction. Every....single....one. Do you know what I do with people that are reliably wrong? I do the opposite of what they say. YOU HAVE NOTHING from peer reviewed climate science journals. Duh Quote
robosmith Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Shady said: Hasn't the Antarctic gained ice over the last couple of years? Always gain in their winter and have been LOSING MORE in their SUMMER. Did you read the OP report from CLIMATE EXPERTS? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: YOU HAVE NOTHING from peer reviewed climate science journals. Duh And you have no peer-reviewed scientific articles that have accurately predicted changes. You don't get to be wrong 100% of the time and then claim to be THE authority on the matter. Life doesn't work that way. If you want to be taken seriously, be right at least once. Until then, your peer-reviewed articles mean nothing. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 16 minutes ago, Legato said: Where? Your graph just proves HOW STUPID you are. 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: And you have no peer-reviewed scientific articles that have accurately predicted changes. You don't get to be wrong 100% of the time and then claim to be THE authority on the matter. Life doesn't work that way. If you want to be taken seriously, be right at least once. Until then, your peer-reviewed articles mean nothing. Timing may be OFF but the RESULTS have been accurate. Sea level is rising and glaciers are receding EVERYWHERE. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your graph just proves HOW STUPID you are. Timing may be OFF but the RESULTS have been accurate. Sea level is rising and glaciers are receding EVERYWHERE. The Maldives are still there: https://visitmaldives.com/en 100% of the predictions are wrong in timing and scope 100% of the time. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 Antarctica’s ‘Doomsday Glacier’ Is Melting Even Faster Than Scientists Thought Quote Warming waters are reaching several miles into Antarctica’s Thwaites Glacier—nicknamed the “doomsday glacier” because of its potential impact on sea-level rise By Sachi Kitajima Mulkey & Grist Jim Yungel/NASA Climate Change At the bottom of the Earth sits a massive bowl of ice you may know as the West Antarctic ice sheet. Each day, the ocean laps away at its base, slowly eroding the glaciers that line its rim. When they inevitably give in, the sea will begin to fill the basin, claiming the ice for its own and flooding coastlines around the world. Thwaites Glacier is one of the bulwarks guarding against the collapse of this critical ice sheet, most of which rests below sea level and holds enough ice to raise the ocean by 3.3 meters, or almost 11 feet. Unfortunately, this frosty Goliath, the size of Florida, is also one of the world’s most unstable and fastest-melting glaciers. While glaciologists knew its rate of ice loss was dire, they recently discovered that it’s exposed to far more warming water than previously believed. In a study published last week, scientists using satellite imagery and hydraulic modeling found that warming tidal currents are permeating the massive block of ice at depths as great as 3.7 miles, causing “vigorous melting.” “We really, really need to understand how fast the ice is changing, how fast it is going to change over the next 20 to 50 years,” said Christine Dow, an associate professor of glaciology at the University of Waterloo and one of the study’s authors. “We were hoping it would take a hundred, 500 years to lose that ice. A big concern right now is if it happens much faster than that.” As climate change drives global temperatures ever higher, glaciers and ice sheets in polar and mountainous regions inevitably melt. The water and dislodged ice flows into the oceans, causing them to rise. Since 1880, global sea levels have climbed roughly 9 inches, and any sudden increase could be catastrophic for coastal cities like New York, Mumbai, and Shanghai. Low-lying countries like the Marshall Islands and Tuvalu could be submerged entirely. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 49 minutes ago, robosmith said: Antarctica’s ‘Doomsday Glacier’ Is Melting Even Faster Than Scientists Thought Lmao...ok skippy. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Legato Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 58 minutes ago, robosmith said: Antarctica’s ‘Doomsday Glacier’ Is Melting Even Faster Than Scientists Thought Then shut the freezer door. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted August 27, 2025 Author Report Posted August 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Legato said: Then shut the freezer door. You're really stupid if you don't understand that cutting GHG emissions does exactly that. Duh Quote
gatomontes99 Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 26 minutes ago, robosmith said: You're really stupid if you don't understand that cutting GHG emissions does exactly that. Duh Is that one of those peer-reviewed studies? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: The Maldives are still there: https://visitmaldives.com/en 100% of the predictions are wrong in timing and scope 100% of the time. https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/148158/preparing-for-rising-seas-in-the-maldives https://biologyinsights.com/maldives-sea-level-rise-impacts-and-adaptation-efforts/ No one ever said the Maldives would be gone by now. Edited August 27, 2025 by Aristides Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) On 8/23/2025 at 10:35 AM, robosmith said: Wait. My post was all bullshit. Arctic and Antarctic Sea Ice is Expanding. Sorry, I'll STFU now. Fixed it for ya robostooge. Edited August 27, 2025 by WestCanMan Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/148158/preparing-for-rising-seas-in-the-maldives https://biologyinsights.com/maldives-sea-level-rise-impacts-and-adaptation-efforts/ "Preparing for" doesn't mean "it already happened", just in case you're so fugging stupid that you actually just posted that. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 4 hours ago, Legato said: Where? https://www.mediamatters.org/climate-deniers/spreading-climate-misinformation-fast-becoming-shortcut-popularity-across-right For starters , he isn't a climate scientist, he is a geologist. Unfortunately the right is making a scientific issue part of their culture war agains things like DEI and wokeism which have nothing to do with science. But that is what the new right does. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 13 minutes ago, Aristides said: https://www.mediamatters.org/climate-deniers/spreading-climate-misinformation-fast-becoming-shortcut-popularity-across-right For starters , he isn't a climate scientist, he is a geologist. Unfortunately the right is making a scientific issue part of their culture war agains things like DEI and wokeism which have nothing to do with science. But that is what the new right does. Buddy, our country is spinning down into the toilet right now and you want to make elections all about an imaginary decrease in sea ice in the poles. 😂 Your DEI bullshit is funny, as is your woke drivel, but that bit of retardation is just a joke compared to the damage done by your lies about covid and global warming. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: "Preparing for" doesn't mean "it already happened", just in case you're so fugging stupid that you actually just posted that. I never said it already happened, I did say, we won’t know until after it happens. Just now, WestCanMan said: Buddy, our country is spinning down into the toilet right now and you want to make elections all about an imaginary decrease in sea ice in the poles. 😂 Your DEI bullshit is funny, as is your woke drivel, but that bit of retardation is just a joke compared to the damage done by your lies about covid and global warming. You want to make it about wokeism and DEI and pretend they are the same thing. They are nothing in comparison. Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 Just now, Aristides said: I never said it already happened, I did say, we won’t know until after it happens. But the opposite is happening. Sea ice is increasing, not decreasing. So why don't you find an article freaking out about what we're gonna do when sea levels fall? And then rise again. And then fall again. And then rise again. Did you know that sea levels rose by over a foot here at one point today? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: But the opposite is happening. Sea ice is increasing, not decreasing. So why don't you find an article freaking out about what we're gonna do when sea levels fall? And then rise again. And then fall again. And then rise again. Did you know that sea levels rose by over a foot here at one point today? A one or two year increase in one place isn’t a trend but it’s a soother ring you can suck on for awhile. Edited August 27, 2025 by Aristides 1 1 Quote
Aristides Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 The northern hemisphere is warming 1.5 times faster than the southern hemisphere. 70% of the world’s population lives in the northern hemisphere. Think there might be a connection? Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 27, 2025 Report Posted August 27, 2025 1 minute ago, Aristides said: The northern hemisphere is warming 1.5 times faster than the southern hemisphere. 70% of the world’s population lives in the northern hemisphere. Think there might be a connection? Snuck premise much? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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