Israel is losing the plot. . .

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

When you keep trying to kill people with oppression and subjugation you get terror.

You are so full of shit. No one was trying to kill anyone in Gaza. They were free to govern themselves and had the entire world dumping billions of dollars into their shit hole economy and Israel was letting them come work to make a living and they were firing rockets out of schools at Israel. 

 

[ironstone]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And yet they're losing the plot.

I would describe it as Israel always loses in the court of public opinion. Sadly, the side that has a similar goal to the Nazis is almost always portrayed as the poor, innocent victims.

I think the IDF has gone above and beyond in order to minimize civilian deaths in Gaza. And the number of civilian deaths is impossible to determine since Hamas fighters do not wear military uniforms so they can blend in with the general population.

All those that despise Israel and Jews in general don't offer any realistic solutions.

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, User said:

You are so full of shit. No one was trying to kill anyone in Gaza.

You STILL haven't heard of Deir Yassin?

Can you even utter the name of the place without coming unglued?

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You STILL haven't heard of Deir Yassin?

Can you even utter the name of the place without coming unglued?

Once again, you respond like a clown and don't even actually respond to what I said. 

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

I would describe it as Israel always loses in the court of public opinion. Sadly, the side that has a similar goal to the Nazis is almost always portrayed as the poor, innocent victims.

Why do you think Einstein described the terrorists who attacked Deir Yassin as being like NAZI's?

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, User said:

Once again, you respond like a clown and don't even actually respond to what I said. 

As always, you run away.

[User]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

As always, you run away.

No, you just act stupid and try to repeat the accusations others use. I gave an answer here already, you ignored it. Now you play stupid. 

 

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, User said:

I gave an answer here already, you ignored it.

No you didn't. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No you didn't. 

You ignored it like you do most of the history and context so you can support your terrorist pals in their rape, torture, and murder of innocent people. 

[eyeball]

Just now, User said:

You ignored it like you do most of the history and context so you can support your terrorist pals in their rape, torture, and murder of innocent people. 

That's why you ignore Deir Yassin.

And no, you didn't respond at all. Stop lying.

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's why you ignore Deir Yassin.

And no, you didn't respond at all. Stop lying.

I did not ignore it, you are a sad pathetic liar. 

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You STILL haven't heard of Deir Yassin?

Can you even utter the name of the place without coming unglued?

It was clearly a horrible event. Another bloody slaughter in a long line of slaughters on both sides back in those days.

Notable pre-1948 incidents

Some well-documented examples:

Hebron massacre (1929)
Arab rioters killed 67 Jewish civilians in Hebron during widespread riots in British-ruled Palestine. Many victims were unarmed religious Jews.

Safed massacre (1929)
Jewish homes were looted and burned; about 18 Jews were killed.

Jaffa riots (1921)
Arab riots against Jews left around 47 Jews dead, mostly civilians.

Nebi Musa riots (1920)
Anti-Jewish violence in Jerusalem killed several Jews and injured hundreds.

Earlier Ottoman-era incidents
There were sporadic attacks on Jewish communities, such as in Safed (1834), where Jews were killed and the community was largely destroyed.

Jews have tried desperately to move on from the past and have peace and prosperity for both sides, but 'Palestinians' simply refuse to let go. They will not let up until every single Israeli has been eliminated. It's their version of The Final Solution.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, ironstone said:

It was clearly a horrible event. Another bloody slaughter in a long line of slaughters on both sides back in those days.

Notable pre-1948 incidents

Sure but following so closely after the Holocaust, and after being refused refuge in places Canada, you don't think Jewish refugees from Europe should have known better than to act like Nazis?

As Einstein said, it would come back to bite them hard. Some might say it was Karma.

 

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Jews have tried desperately to move on from the past and have peace and prosperity for both sides

They should have tried harder.

It's never too late.

[ironstone]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure but following so closely after the Holocaust, and after being refused refuge in places Canada, you don't think Jewish refugees from Europe should have known better than to act like Nazis?

I can't imagine how it must have felt to have survived a regime that made extensive use of concentration camps and crematoriums for the sole purpose of wiping out all Jews. Desperation? Certainly. And they are entitled to say, NEVER AGAIN.

 

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

They should have tried harder.

It's never too late.

You are basically placing the blame and responsibility entirely on the side of Jews and the Palestinians get a complete pass?

I can point to all the times Israel has made generous offers in exchange for peace. The response is always the same...NO.

 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

I can't imagine how it must have felt to have survived a regime that made extensive use of concentration camps and crematoriums for the sole purpose of wiping out all Jews. Desperation? Certainly. And they are entitled to say, NEVER AGAIN.

Imagine how it must have felt being sent back to Hitler's ovens and refused refuge in Canada of all places...yeah they must have felt like they were the most hated people on the planet alright.

That's still no excuse for behaving as badly as they'd been mistreated.

Unfortunately they've squandered so much of the sympathy they richly deserved following the Holocaust.

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's still no excuse for behaving as badly as they'd been mistreated.

There is no excuse for you to trivialize something like the Holocaust with this asinine comparison.

 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, User said:

There is no excuse for you to trivialize something like the Holocaust with this asinine comparison.

There's no excuse for you ignoring Einstein's comparison of Zionist terrorists to Nazis.

[User]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There's no excuse for you ignoring Einstein's comparison of Zionist terrorists to Nazis.

Yeah, you tried to make this ignorant and dishonest argument before, but could never get past this initial baseless assertion phase of yours. 

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Imagine how it must have felt being sent back to Hitler's ovens and refused refuge in Canada of all places...yeah they must have felt like they were the most hated people on the planet alright.

That's still no excuse for behaving as badly as they'd been mistreated.

Unfortunately they've squandered so much of the sympathy they richly deserved following the Holocaust.

That was a shameful decision by the government of the day and for this country as a whole.

And Jews, Israelis categorically do not behave as badly as they've been mistreated. It's preposterous to even suggest that about a nation that warns civilians to leave before attacks, and brings in food and water(which Hamas often manages to steal).

I doubt that any other army in history has been held to the same standards as the IDF has. There is an abundance of evidence showing the great lengths they have gone to in order to minimize civilian casualties on the other side. They are pretty much the polar opposite of Hamas, who always seek to inflict as much harm as possible on Israeli civilians. Women, children, the elderly, it doesn't matter to Hamas who consider all of them fair game. Torture? Rape? No hesitation from Hamas. They filmed it because they are proud of it.

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, User said:

Yeah, you tried to make this ignorant and dishonest argument before, but could never get past this initial baseless assertion phase of yours. 

No, that's just the baselessness of your denial blowing back in your face.

The fact of what Einstein said is beyond dispute, and why.

[User]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, that's just the baselessness of your denial blowing back in your face.

The fact of what Einstein said is beyond dispute, and why.

Denial of what? You throw out vague generalities, and the reality is that I know what Einstein said and about whom and what the context was. You avoid that because you are a dishonest terrorist supporter. 

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

And Jews, Israelis categorically do not behave as badly as they've been mistreated.

Some did, so is the fact very few people tried to stop them those who did risked being murdered themselves. They certainly never faced justice.

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

I doubt that any other army in history has been held to the same standards as the IDF has.

I doubt the IDF is the only army in the world whose has had its terrorist roots and victories sanitized and glorified when the history books were written. That seems pretty standard.

6 hours ago, ironstone said:

They are pretty much the polar opposite of Hamas,

Soon to be Israelis cheered when the IDF precursors humiliated and paraded their hostages in the streets following Deir Yassin. No better than Gazans who did the same I suppose.

 

[eyeball]

56 minutes ago, User said:

Denial of what? You throw out vague generalities, and the reality is that I know what Einstein said and about whom and what the context was. You avoid that because you are a dishonest terrorist supporter. 

I'm well aware of Einstein's support for Israel if that's what you mean.

I just don't deny what he also witnessed or why it was so disturbing to him. There was nothing in the least vague about the words he used or why he used them or the despicability of the acts his words described.

That's what you deny. That and the accuracy of the consequences he predicted.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm well aware of Einstein's support for Israel if that's what you mean.

I just don't deny what he also witnessed or why it was so disturbing to him. There was nothing in the least vague about the words he used or why he used them or the despicability of the acts his words described.

That's what you deny. That and the accuracy of the consequences he predicted.

Except that the words that he said of concern about a certain political party was not the same as concern over Israel at all, and the words of support that he had for Israel were said after Israel was formed whereas what's your quoting was before that

Basically you're lying. You're taking something out of context and trying to present it in a certain light that simply isn't true.

And you keep getting called on it. Yet you keep lying. Which tells me you know you're wrong and you're just hoping to convince other people that there's some validity to your Jew hating and massacre supporting ways. The probably isn't

[User]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm well aware of Einstein's support for Israel if that's what you mean.

I just don't deny what he also witnessed or why it was so disturbing to him. There was nothing in the least vague about the words he used or why he used them or the despicability of the acts his words described.

That's what you deny. That and the accuracy of the consequences he predicted.

Witnessed what? By whom? 
 

Once again, not all of Jews or Israel, so what is your point?