BeaverFever Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) 18 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: This woman decided she wanted to travel so she got a divorce and moved to Italy, abandoning her kids and she has no regrets. It is so sad for her family. https://www.businessinsider.com/leaving-us-for-italy-retire-in-sicily-2025-7 Well her “kids” are fully grown adults. And while the article doesn’t say anything about the quality of her marriage or her husband, at worst this article is nothing more than the selfishness of ONE person And it’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that only Liberals divorce and leave their families. Look at your president. Edited July 27, 2025 by BeaverFever 2 Quote
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 49 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: I know she omitted it. That means she doesn't consider it important. She framed the story as if she just cut ties and ran. Or it means she thinks it is none of our effing business and she doesn't think she should be discussing her family relationships in public and behind their backs. Maybe she is showing a respect for them that you don't think they deserve. She never said she has cut ties with her kids or discussed her current relationship with her ex. Quote
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: I know she omitted it. That means she doesn't consider it important. She framed the story as if she just cut ties and ran. No one said she should give up the right to live her own life. But, when you form relationships and have a family, it should be your decision to be there for them. You are asserting that she should be selfish. I don't agree with that. So when your parents get old it should be your duty to move to where they are and be there for them. In other words, give up your own life. Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: That doesn't make it right or less selfish. Doesn’t mean it is not right and yes it is less selfish than leaving young children Quote
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 So what if she lived on the west coast and her kids moved to New York, should she move to be there for them? How is her not moving across the country to be with them different from her moving to Italy? Quote
Fluffypants Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: It's a published story. Your right she is happily letting everyone know she divorced her husband for no other reason than her own selfish reasons. You know marriage vows should be worth more than just some BS you say because of tradition. I hope her husband hooks up with many young hot women and puts it all on his social media page and lets see how long she is happy for him. Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 13 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Just the liberal side Trump is on his third wife, always leaving them for younger women, cheated on every single one of them. Newt Gingrich cheated on one of his many wives while she was dying of cancer. How many children has Elon Musk abandoned or never even attended in the first place? Look the list of Republican cheaters, whoremongers and family abandoners is long. And that’s just the politicians never mind private citizens. Especially in the MAGA movement where debauchery, hedonism, vulgarity and selfishness are seen as virtues and encouraged. 2 Quote
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 Just now, Fluffypants said: Your right she is happily letting everyone know she divorced her husband for no other reason than her own selfish reasons. You know marriage vows should be worth more than just some BS you say because of tradition. I hope her husband hooks up with many young hot women and puts it all on his social media page and lets see how long she is happy for him. She never gave a reason for her divorce and we have no idea of the state of their marriage. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Well her “kids” are fully grown adults. So? 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: And while the article doesn’t say anything about the quality of her marriage or her husband, If it was a bad marriage, she would ha said that she left him for that and to go find herself. Instead, the entire article is about her needs and her only motivation seems to be her needs. If she didnt want to be seen as selfish, she should have at least mentioned some motivation other than self desire. 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: at worst this article is nothing more than the selfishness of ONE person That was the thesis of my OP. 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: And it’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that only Liberals divorce and leave their families. Look at your president. Who said that? 50 minutes ago, Aristides said: Or it means she thinks it is none of our effing business and she doesn't think she should be discussing her family relationships in public and behind their backs. Maybe she is showing a respect for them that you don't think they deserve. Uh huh. She made it everyone's business. 42 minutes ago, Aristides said: So when your parents get old it should be your duty to move to where they are and be there for them. In other words, give up your own life. Yes. They are family. You move near them or they move near you if needed. That is what normal people do. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Fluffypants Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 32 minutes ago, Aristides said: She never gave a reason for her divorce and we have no idea of the state of their marriage. Quote So I quit my job, retired, and divorced my husband. We had 30 years together and raised our amazing kids. But I didn't want just to walk the dog, play pickleball, and tend a garden. I wanted a bigger life. It sounds like she divorced him for being an anchor to her. The fact she didn't expressly said why spoke volumes because her story does not paint her as the good guy, it paints her as someone who selfishly decided her own happiness was all that mattered, who cares what it did to her husband and her kids. She didn't waste any time getting a boyfriend either. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 Trying to figure why this is even a thread... Divorce is an every day thing. So what... 1 Quote
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 22 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: It sounds like she divorced him for being an anchor to her. The fact she didn't expressly said why spoke volumes because her story does not paint her as the good guy, it paints her as someone who selfishly decided her own happiness was all that mattered, who cares what it did to her husband and her kids. She didn't waste any time getting a boyfriend either. It doesn't speak anything other than what you want to make it. She did't justify anything or blame anyone. That's your thing. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Trying to figure why this is even a thread... Divorce is an every day thing. So what... The well of things to blame on Democrats is running dry. That's what it is. 2 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Fluffypants Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Trying to figure why this is even a thread... Divorce is an every day thing. So what... Thats the problem its become an everyday thing, it shouldn't be. Marriage isn't sacred anymore its become something done until its no longer convenient. Its that we are making things commonplace that shouldn't. There is a complete lack of shame in this country. When I was a kid, it was just me and my Mom for a while and she worked 2 jobs to take care of me and you know what she didn't do? Go get foodstamps because it was embarassing to use them and they were supposed to be temporary, Now there are rap songs cheering them and women on Tik Tok bragging about how much money they are getting from food stamps and all the snacks as garbage they are buying with them. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 34 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: Thats the problem its become an everyday thing, it shouldn't be. Marriage isn't sacred anymore its become something done until its no longer convenient. Its that we are making things commonplace that shouldn't. There is a complete lack of shame in this country. When I was a kid, it was just me and my Mom for a while and she worked 2 jobs to take care of me and you know what she didn't do? Go get foodstamps because it was embarassing to use them and they were supposed to be temporary, Now there are rap songs cheering them and women on Tik Tok bragging about how much money they are getting from food stamps and all the snacks as garbage they are buying with them. Well we're heavily invested in 6 out of 7 deadly sins as part of the basic economy. I will give wrath a pass here. You can blame the founding fathers, who demoted religion in favor of individual "pursuit of happiness". To quote Nietzsche, God is dead and we have killed him. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
paxamericana Posted July 28, 2025 Report Posted July 28, 2025 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Look the list of Republican cheaters, I don’t think infidelity is a partisan issue. Strange hill to settle on but okay. Quote
paxamericana Posted July 28, 2025 Report Posted July 28, 2025 16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Well we're heavily invested in 6 out of 7 deadly sins as part of the basic economy. I will give wrath a pass here. You can blame the founding fathers, who demoted religion in favor of individual "pursuit of happiness". To quote Nietzsche, God is dead and we have killed him. Yes the ancient text give guidance on how to conduct ourselves for the greater good through god. We have strayed far from the light and these are the results. I never understood the conceit behind the anti-religion crowd. I understand the criticism of religion but one can not throw the baby out with the bath water. Religious practices while strange often have deeper meaning for their existence. It’s incumbent upon individuals to discover the truth and meaning before rushing to judgment. Quote
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