gatomontes99 Posted July 26, 2025 Report Posted July 26, 2025 This woman decided she wanted to travel so she got a divorce and moved to Italy, abandoning her kids and she has no regrets. It is so sad for her family. https://www.businessinsider.com/leaving-us-for-italy-retire-in-sicily-2025-7 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
herbie Posted July 26, 2025 Report Posted July 26, 2025 Oh look who's talking selfish, Mr take away his rights so I can think I have more, Mr increase other countries costs so I can pay less, Mr don't like the look of that farm worker so deport him. Yeah the left is just SO selfish. I've yet to meet a 'leftist' that has to rely on nothing but lies to define himself. Post another bullshit headline like your Orange Overlord told you to, dupe. 1 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 26, 2025 Author Report Posted July 26, 2025 8 minutes ago, herbie said: Oh look who's talking selfish, Mr take away his rights so I can think I have more, Mr increase other countries costs so I can pay less, Mr don't like the look of that farm worker so deport him. Yeah the left is just SO selfish. I've yet to meet a 'leftist' that has to rely on nothing but lies to define himself. Post another bullshit headline like your Orange Overlord told you to, dupe. #2 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted July 26, 2025 Report Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: This woman decided she wanted to travel so she got a divorce and moved to Italy, abandoning her kids and she has no regrets. It is so sad for her family. https://www.businessinsider.com/leaving-us-for-italy-retire-in-sicily-2025-7 Since she's old enough to retire, her kids are grown and can take care of themselves. Duh 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted July 26, 2025 Report Posted July 26, 2025 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: This woman decided she wanted to travel so she got a divorce and moved to Italy, abandoning her kids and she has no regrets. It is so sad for her family. https://www.businessinsider.com/leaving-us-for-italy-retire-in-sicily-2025-7 I always find these type of people suspicious. Like if you’re living your best life after ditching your family then why write a whole article on it? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 3 hours ago, robosmith said: Since she's old enough to retire, her kids are grown and can take care of themselves. Duh That doesn't make it right or less selfish. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: She defines a generation? Just the liberal side Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
LinkSoul60 Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: Just the liberal side Damn liberals... although there are some real nice wines in Italy, and cheap. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 Every post-WWII generation is very selfish, starting with the baby boomers and increasing with each generation. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Fluffypants Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) Man vows dont mean crap anymore. They need to change it to I vow to maybe stay with you until I don't feel like it. It doesn't sound like her ex was a bad guy or anything. It sounds like she was like "a husband right now doesn't fit with my new lifestyle" Is this supposed to be a feel good story because everything is so very wrong. Like her bragging about get her free healthcare without ever paying a dime into the system. She sounds like a mooch. Edited July 27, 2025 by Fluffypants Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 7%3A1-3&version=KJV " Judge not, that ye not be judged " Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 7%3A1-3&version=KJV " Judge not, that ye not be judged " Read the Bible so you understand that passage. When you post that quote and clearly misuse it, you look petty. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 12 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: That doesn't make it right or less selfish. So judgy. Her kids are grown and on their own. Do you think they ask her permission to move somewhere to improve their lives? Who knows what her marriage was like, maybe she stuck with him for 30 years because of the kids. I’m older and am realizing that if I don’t do stuff now while I’m still healthy, I never will. My kids don’t ask permission to make their life changes nor do they need to. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Read the Bible so you understand that passage. When you post that quote and clearly misuse it, you look petty. Is picking away at the details of some retired strangers life Not Petty? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: So judgy. Her kids are grown and on their own. Do you think they ask her permission to move somewhere to improve their lives? Who knows what her marriage was like, maybe she stuck with him for 30 years because of the kids. I’m older and am realizing that if I don’t do stuff now while I’m still healthy, I never will. My kids don’t ask permission to make their life changes nor do they need to. Really? Did you not talk to your parents about big choices you made? I know I did. 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Is picking away at the details of some retired strangers life Not Petty? Not when she puts it out there like she's some example to be followed. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Really? Did you not talk to your parents about big choices you made? I know I did. Not when she puts it out there like she's some example to be followed. I may have talked to them but didn’t ask their permission. I ended up moving to the other end of the country at one point. You don’t know if she discussed it with her kids or if they approved. Where did she say others should do it. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Not when she puts it out there like she's some example to be followed. It's a published story. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 8 minutes ago, Aristides said: I may have talked to them but didn’t ask their permission. I ended up moving to the other end of the country at one point. You don’t know if she discussed it with her kids or if they approved. I know children who moved far from elderly parents, as an adult. I find that sad too. But... it's simplistic to just blame someone for such things. Moronic to attribute it to centrist politics... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: I may have talked to them but didn’t ask their permission. I ended up moving to the other end of the country at one point. You don’t know if she discussed it with her kids or if they approved. Where did she say others should do it. If you talked to them, you sought advice. Maybe it wasn't "permission" but you at least discussed it. From the way this article is framed, that didn't happen. She ran away. As she is bragging about how great it is to ditch your family and do your own thing, she's definitely promoting it. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) 6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: If you talked to them, you sought advice. Maybe it wasn't "permission" but you at least discussed it. From the way this article is framed, that didn't happen. She ran away. As she is bragging about how great it is to ditch your family and do your own thing, she's definitely promoting it. You don't know what she discussed with her kids and you don't know where they live. She doesn't discuss her relationship with her husband or kids at all, which leaves you free to make up whatever you want. In a way I admire her courage to make such a step. Not for me though, I'm lucky enough that my kids have made their own lives close to me. Many of may boomer friends have to travel thousands of miles to visit their kids. My daughter's kids have Swiss citizenship through their father. One of them has just spent a year working there and is thinking of moving back permanently if she doesn't get into nursing school here next year. Just because you get old doesn't mean you give up the right to live your own life. Edited July 27, 2025 by Aristides Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: You don't know what she discussed with her kids. She doesn't discuss her relationship with her husband or kids at all, which leaves you free to make up whatever you want. This is true but... Why? Is there some idea that our problems can be fixed by criticizing moral decline? And that that moral decline is rooted in left of center politics, even if slightly? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Aristides Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: This is true but... Why? Is there some idea that our problems can be fixed by criticizing moral decline? And that that moral decline is rooted in left of center politics, even if slightly? No one has explained where the problem is here. All I see is someone who thinks they have the right to judge the morality of others with almost no knowledge of their lives. Edited July 27, 2025 by Aristides Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 27, 2025 Author Report Posted July 27, 2025 14 minutes ago, Aristides said: You don't know what she discussed with her kids and you don't know where they live. She doesn't discuss her relationship with her husband or kids at all, which leaves you free to make up whatever you want. I know she omitted it. That means she doesn't consider it important. She framed the story as if she just cut ties and ran. 15 minutes ago, Aristides said: Just because you get old doesn't mean you give up the right to live your own life. No one said she should give up the right to live her own life. But, when you form relationships and have a family, it should be your decision to be there for them. You are asserting that she should be selfish. I don't agree with that. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Michael Hardner Posted July 27, 2025 Report Posted July 27, 2025 26 minutes ago, Aristides said: No one has explained where the problem is here. All I see is someone who thinks they have the right to judge the morality of others with almost no knowledge of their lives. I find that if you ask anyone about politics, no matter what their leaning is, they will come back with a straight up moral opinion. The odd thing is that politics require us to look at things from the angle of another person, at least to the degree where we allow alternate moralities to exist. So why do we have a political board? Why do these people think that they like politics? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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