The real reason for Orange Man Tariff

[paxamericana]

1) Tax Revenue

2) Encourage local manufacturing

3) Negotiating Leverage

4) stop buying chinesium 

Argue amongst your selves.

Edited July 22, 2025 by paxamericana
added another point that is not explicitly discussed but widely known

[Nationalist]

No argument. 

He gambled a bit and it's working.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

No argument. 

He gambled a bit and it's working.

MAGA FOOLS don't understand THEY ARE PAYING THE TARIFFS. 🤮

[herbie]

Not unless TACO starts hitting them in the wallet.

The real reason is that The Blob is completely ignorant in economics. His actual skill set:

 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

MAGA FOOLS don't understand THEY ARE PAYING THE TARIFFS. 🤮

You, @herbie and the rest of the Dumbocrats are going to find yourselves openly praying for some sort of disaster to cool your own economy again.

Your TDS forces y'all to be traitors to your nation. Just like Barry and his gang.

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

MAGA FOOLS don't understand THEY ARE PAYING THE TARIFFS. 🤮

You are paying the taxes on the top 1% and corporate taxes.

The difference is Tariffs put pressure on the market to domesticate production where as taxing the rich and corporations puts pressure on them to move to more favorable tax structures.

[Michael Hardner]

10 hours ago, herbie said:

Not unless TACO starts hitting them in the wallet.

The real reason is that The Blob is completely ignorant in economics.

 

There are little sparkles of realization happening.  Odd posts on Reddit/YouTube about MAGA voters, small business, who rely on imports seeing their business plan evaporate.   Unlike a dirty Chud, I won't try to project my anecdotal observations into a wider trend.  I'll look to PEW research and Nate Silver for the difficult statistics. ( https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin )

Here's another example for amusements.  The host, speaking, points out that tariffs will be paid by Americans.  Note the co-hosts, not speaking, and their reactions - akin to a gorilla being handed an iPhone...

 

[Nationalist]

Ahhh the Libbies will already say anything to deny the truth we all can see for ourselves.

Sad really...

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

MAGA FOOLS don't understand THEY ARE PAYING THE TARIFFS. 🤮

Very good, robomarx.

Perhaps we should eliminate income tax to absorb that costs from the tariffs. What do you think? 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

points out that tariffs will be paid by Americans

This sentiment is often over exaggerated as if it was a self evident counter argument. It is not. You are missing the forest for the tree.

Tariff raises the cost of buying, who pays the tariff does not matter. When things are more expensive, you buy less of it. Demand destruction is the end result.

That being said, one way to offset tariff price hikes is inventory. When you have enough inventory to sustain demand during high tariff you can maintain price. Trump does not keep tariff at absurdly high level for long and announces them well in advance knowing importer will rush to get more inventory before tariff goes into effect. This tariff uncertainty achieves a 2nd order effect , to pause investment into the country being tariff.  This may be a shock to some reading this but yes Trump is having his cake and eating it too. But you all shouldn't be surprise of how a stable genius is able to achieve this magic trick. 

Edited July 22, 2025 by paxamericana

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You, @herbie and the rest of the Dumbocrats are going to find yourselves openly praying for some sort of disaster to cool your own economy again.

Your TDS forces y'all to be traitors to your nation. Just like Barry and his gang.

So you believe it when Trump keeps claiming that other nations are paying the US tariffs.

You're a much bigger FOOL than I thought. Enjoy paying your retaliatory Canadian tariffs unless TACO.  LMAO

Edited July 22, 2025 by robosmith

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

So you believe it when Trump keeps claiming that other nations are paying the US tariffs.

You're a much bigger FOOL than I thought. Enjoy paying your retaliatory Canadian tariffs unless TACO.  LMAO

Aaand...the Philippines just signed a trade deal with the USA.

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Aaand...the Philippines just signed a trade deal with the USA.

WOW! Philippines!  That's even bigger than Viet Nam, right?  LMAO

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ahhh the Libbies will already say anything to deny the truth we all can see for ourselves.

Ahhh the Magats will say anything to deny the truth they can't see for themselves.

FTFY

Are you so absolutely stupid and cultish you don't believe it is the American consumer that will pay for the tariffs? Really that dumb?

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

WOW! Philippines!  That's even bigger than Viet Nam, right?  LMAO

Are you saying trade with the Philippines is not important?

Not very inclusive robo.

[Nationalist]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

Ahhh the Magats will say anything to deny the truth they can't see for themselves.

FTFY

Are you so absolutely stupid and cultish you don't believe it is the American consumer that will pay for the tariffs? Really that dumb?

Yes and you keep telling yourself that Tweenkie-Poo.

To date, tariffs have brought $100 billion with estimates from Moody's in excess of $300 billion by the end of the year.

In the meantime, inflation continues to hold.

Yes...I know you find it all illogical and figure the bottom will drop out and it'll all be a huge failure. And I'll even admit, Trump is playing a dangerous game. But so far, so good.

That must really urk you...eh Tweenkie-Poo?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Are you saying trade with the Philippines is not important?

Not very inclusive robo.

Exactly. Trump is ONLY getting countries that are EASILY BULLIED. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yes and you keep telling yourself that Tweenkie-Poo.

To date, tariffs have brought $100 billion with estimates from Moody's in excess of $300 billion by the end of the year.

In the meantime, inflation continues to hold.

Yes...I know you find it all illogical and figure the bottom will drop out and it'll all be a huge failure. And I'll even admit, Trump is playing a dangerous game. But so far, so good.

That must really urk you...eh Tweenkie-Poo?

What irks me is Trump LYING to the American people about who is paying the tariffs.

But thanks for demonstrating once again that you will defend ANY dishonesty by TACO Trump. 🤮 

 

[Deluge]

21 hours ago, robosmith said:

WOW! Philippines!  That's even bigger than Viet Nam, right?  LMAO

robomarx doesn't want the U.S. working with anyone. He just wants the country to curl up and die so Mexicans, communists, Islam or all three can march in and carve up the land for themselves. 

robomarx is a traitor and belongs in prison.  

Edited July 23, 2025 by Deluge

[herbie]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

To date, tariffs have brought $100 billion with estimates from Moody's in excess of $300 billion by the end of the year.

And YOU paid them. No one else, YOU the consumer paid that.
They ADDED $100 to the amount of inflation.

Maybe you should stop name calling and engage your brain rather than listen to the fat m0ron in the White House that's lied about everything.

[Nationalist]

42 minutes ago, herbie said:

And YOU paid them. No one else, YOU the consumer paid that.
They ADDED $100 to the amount of inflation.

Maybe you should stop name calling and engage your brain rather than listen to the fat m0ron in the White House that's lied about everything.

Naw. Taking advice from you seems rather...self defeating. 

It's working and you have to warp reality to make your case.