Is Poilievre screwing up again?

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

PP did awesome...  Only lost his seat and now has to go to AB to try and find one.

 

Sure, and that's his embarrassing as he gets. Should never happen. I can totally see how it happened but they got a little complacent and it came back to bite him. But he still got more of the popular vote than any other conservative and almost every other liberal going back to more room.

Can I think that's what scares you guys the most. Corny one because he scared the NDP voters into voting liberal and because jagmeet basically sold his party out for a pension. But that isn't likely to happen again. Where is Poilievre finished at the same has he's been pulling for the last year. And it won't be hard for him to get his numbers back up into that range.

Once the NDP selects a new leader carney could be in real trouble considering he's already beginning to slip. By the time he has to deliver another budget next April it may be possible for the other parties to bring him down and run an election, the NDP will be very eager to get some seats back and get official party status and the conservatives will be gunning for the majority they should have had the first time.

But because you can't cope with that concept you simply bring up something relatively childish rather than address the fact that he did in fact get such a large percent of the vote

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm  not sure,  It's hard to think down to your level. ...

 

 

Still biting at the lure I see Ha Ha Ha.  I don't even have to use bait to get you on the hook anymore LOL

Great...you finally got it. That is what I been trying to tell you for a very long time

Talking down to you is becoming more and more of a challenge but...it is still entertaining though LOL

PP entertaining the Alberta crowds LOL

 

Edited 12 hours ago by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, PIK said:

Look at the numbers from the election,  PP did great. Getting pooped on by most of the media, and they still are attacking him. That's because they know carney is a dud and PP is going be the next PM.

Yup...41% trump...I mean PP LOL and 59% anyone else by looking at the numbers form the election.

When will you PPers get over the fact you lost and came in second?? 

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Still biting at the lure I see Ha Ha Ha.  I don't even have to use bait to get you on the hook anymore LOL

Great...you finally got it. That is what I been trying to tell you for a very long time

Talking down to you is becoming more and more of a challenge but...it is still entertaining though LOL

PP entertaining the Alberta crowds LOL

 

I mean take a look at this. You're obviously petrified of the guy. You're desperate and practically crying and begging.

You're trying to post silly pictures of him in a clown suit, and a whole bunch of lies that simply aren't true or completely out of context, and you're doing this to adults who know what you're doing. We can all see that your post is completely full of bullshit and they're desperate cry for help and attention.

This guy scares the pants off you

49 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup...41% trump...I mean PP

, you can't even address the point. You're so frightened by Poilievre that you can't even talk about the fact that he got as well as he did like a rational person.

He lives right free in your brain 24/7 and you're scared as hell of what he's going to do next

[ExFlyer]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I mean take a look at this. Y....

Ha Ha Ha gotcha again...too easy LOL

C'mon...I got lots of worms for you to bite on LOL

Edited 11 hours ago by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha Ha Ha gotcha again...too easy LOL

C'mon...I got lots of worms for you to bite on LOL

LOL well if making me laugh at your stupidity and mental health issues is 'getting me' then you sure did little guy  

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

LOL well if making me laugh at your ...

You  are making me laugh every time you bite the hook when being trolled.... "your stupidity and mental health issues" keep you coming back to be made a fool of every time.

Keep on coming fish LOL

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You  are making me laugh every time you bite the hook when being trolled.... "your stupidity and mental health issues" keep you coming back to be made a fool of every time.

Keep on coming fish LOL

Kid everybody can see your crying.   Even army guy who's not all that fond of me pointed out that you're messed up. And everybody else's commented on it too.

This is tearing you up inside, and you spend night and day thinking about me and polly ever for some reason. And your response is to some people where my name wasn't even brought up originally you suddenly go off on ransom about me as if the previous person was speaking about me. And they never did.

You are truly a mess  

[ExFlyer]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kid

Right on...you bit again.. You must be the species they call Sucker LOL

I'm retired, I like fishing and I like hooking fish and you are like fishing in a barrel LOL.  Biting all the time

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Edited 10 hours ago by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Right on...you bit again.. You must be the species they call Sucker LOL

I'm retired, I like fishing and I like hooking fish and you are like fishing in a barrel LOL.  Biting all the time

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[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

OMG..Is that all ya got LOL LOL LOL

Good thing I use barbless hooks and you can get off and keep biting the hook LOL

You are a real Sucker fish....  

 

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

OMG..Is that all ya got LOL LOL LOL

 

 

Kid i've told you a million times, this isn't a discussion or the like    This is me laughing at you having a melt down   

 

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure, and that's his embarrassing as he gets. Should never happen. I can totally see how it happened but they got a little complacent and it came back to bite him. But he still got more of the popular vote than any other conservative and almost every other liberal going back to more room.

Can I think that's what scares you guys the most. Corny one because he scared the NDP voters into voting liberal and because jagmeet basically sold his party out for a pension. But that isn't likely to happen again. Where is Poilievre finished at the same has he's been pulling for the last year. And it won't be hard for him to get his numbers back up into that range.

Once the NDP selects a new leader carney could be in real trouble considering he's already beginning to slip. By the time he has to deliver another budget next April it may be possible for the other parties to bring him down and run an election, the NDP will be very eager to get some seats back and get official party status and the conservatives will be gunning for the majority they should have had the first time.

But because you can't cope with that concept you simply bring up something relatively childish rather than address the fact that he did in fact get such a large percent of the vote

Question for you....   Would you rather see Carney come out of the trade talks with Trump and a path forward that will benefit all of Canada, or would you rather see him fail and our country feel the negative affects of?

Edited 8 hours ago by LinkSoul60

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Question for you....   Would you rather see Carney come out of the trade talks with Trump and a path forward that will benefit all of Canada, or would you rather see him fail and our country feel the negative affects of?

Obviously I would rather see positive results from the trade talks. Hands down. To be honest it's obvious that that's not what's going to happen, carney is already positioned himself badly so unfortunately it's going to be a case of do we get one that's not great or one that's horrible. I hope we can get one as good as we can possibly get.

That's not my biggest problem with Carney. I am furious that the one positive that he claimed. The one thing where conservatives could say"Well we may not like him or how he runs the country but at least he...."  has turned out to be pretty false.   He claimed he could defend canada against trump and be 'elbows up' and get us a decent trade deal and very quickly that is proving not to be the case. And if anything that's brutally disappointing. Everything else we can deal with internally, if he screws up on housing and affordability and the ecnonomy then we can boot him and have an election.  But the trade deal with the US was the ONE THING we desperately needed him to get right, and it's not looking good. 

And we've still got the free trade negotiations next year, the deal struck now if we get one doesn't even include that, 

So here's a counter question, if we get a substandard trade deal will you agree that Carney is not the man to lead our country and get rid of it? Or will you try and pass it off as being a good deal even though it's crap?

[LinkSoul60]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Obviously I would rather see positive results from the trade talks. Hands down. To be honest it's obvious that that's not what's going to happen, carney is already positioned himself badly so unfortunately it's going to be a case of do we get one that's not great or one that's horrible. I hope we can get one as good as we can possibly get.

That's not my biggest problem with Carney. I am furious that the one positive that he claimed. The one thing where conservatives could say"Well we may not like him or how he runs the country but at least he...."  has turned out to be pretty false.   He claimed he could defend canada against trump and be 'elbows up' and get us a decent trade deal and very quickly that is proving not to be the case. And if anything that's brutally disappointing. Everything else we can deal with internally, if he screws up on housing and affordability and the ecnonomy then we can boot him and have an election.  But the trade deal with the US was the ONE THING we desperately needed him to get right, and it's not looking good. 

And we've still got the free trade negotiations next year, the deal struck now if we get one doesn't even include that, 

So here's a counter question, if we get a substandard trade deal will you agree that Carney is not the man to lead our country and get rid of it? Or will you try and pass it off as being a good deal even though it's crap?

Actually surprised to hear your first sentence...   So you/we know ONE thing about the talks (reminding DST) and it's not looking good.....  Okay 😂

Not sure how to directly answer your counter question....  Given his background and experience, I and most Canadian's believe he's the right guy to negotiate for us so will assume he'll walk away with what he believes is the best deal for Canada.  If it's an outright bad deal, which is highly unlikely, then I'd say let's move on from him. Problem with that is we have nobody else we know of right now that would be capable of dealing with Trump and other foreign trade..

[herbie]

Whatever results, what would be a disaster is slowing down or stopping the ongoing effort to diversify trade with other countries.
Which most people would simply forget about and abandon when any agreement at all is reached with the USA.

[Moonlight Graham]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You ask for evidence as to whether or not they redo the riding and then you provide maps showing they redrew the riding.

No, we all know the riding borders were redrawn.  I'm asking what evidence you have that the new areas added were filled with traditional Liberal and NDP supporters?  The maps clearly show that a suburban area was removed and a big rural area was added.  Rural people tend to lean conservative.

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

At any rate the additional areas are not traditionally conservative supporters there traditionally liberal and you can look at the history of the voting and the area to see that.

that created an opportunity where a percentage of the people were not used to voting for him already.

Again, show the evidence.  This seems like pure speculation on your part.  Do you have maps showing where the individual pollings stations in those areas voted?  Here, as I suspected, all the rural area added went CPC in 2021 minus 2 polls:

https://www.stephentaylor.ca/data/political/canada/federal/election/2021/35041/

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As to the NDP issue bruce fanjoy who won the riding has talked about all these issues extensively and you can see his interviews on the net.  He was very clear that he'd been working for 2 years going door to door putting in the effort but wasn't really getting anywhere, right until trump came along with the 51'st state stuff.  Then things changed radically and the left coalesced behind him and people "new" to the riding due to the redraw really responded and he says it was largely the fear of trump. 

So what appears to have happened is that the CPC did regular polling in the area and didn't see a huge cause for concern even tho numbers were down a  little, and then trump changed things and they didn't pick up on  it till it was too late. 

I have little reason to doubt fanjoy's account. 

So the riding was redrawn, then the ndp and libs got together over fear of trump, and PP was in trouble and nobody caught that till about half way through the election, 

And why did voters turn to Carney's Liberals over PP's CPC if they feared Trump?  Who was more likely to live inside Trump's butt?  Maybe not the guy parroting his campaign slogans and some of his policies?

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Prove that. The guy who won there said that trump was the person that scared the people. Why do you think he was lying?

Again, why did voters turn to Carney's Liberals over PP's CPC if they were scared about Trump?  Why did they think Carney was was more anti-Trump than PP?   The answer is pretty obvious.

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Not relevant to the issue at hand. Poilievre added about eight points to the previous cPC tallies, if he was doing so badly how is that possible

It's relevant if PP's CPC added 7.6 points while Carney's Liberals added 11.  A lot of people changed their votes in 2025 and all of it went to either the CPC or Liberals.  Some went to the CPC but most went to the Liberals.

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Hey. Dipshit. 

I asked you a simple question I have taken the time to answer yours and you are dodging mine like a true liberal supporter. So I don't really believe you when you say you were for the conservatives. You sound like you're for the liberals and you're dodging simple questions instead of answering them like any honest conservative would

If Poilievre did so bad, how did he manage to get a larger percentage of the vote share than any other conservative leader and almost every other liberal leader going back 40 years?

Are you going to answer that or you going to p**sy out again? 

LOL I couldn't care less if you think i'm lying.   My posting history speaks for itself.  And you'd have a lot more success getting me to answer your question if you didn't throw insults at me like a child.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Actually surprised to hear your first sentence...   So you/we know ONE thing about the talks (reminding DST) and it's not looking good.....  Okay 😂

 

I know a number of things about the talks. You may live under a rock but I don't. I had strong concerns even before the dst issue, and that confirmed them.  The final result will be the final result but honestly it is looking great.

And you shouldn't be surprised, every Canadian should want us to get the best deal we can regardless of politics

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Given his background and experience, I and most Canadian's believe he's the right guy to negotiate for us so will assume he'll walk away with what he believes is the best deal for Canada.

So you're just going to assume that whatever deal they get is the best deal we could possibly have gotten?

And honestly, this is why we can't have nice things

So what I'm really hearing you say deep down is that unless he actually signs a document making Canada the 51st state you're just going to take his performance as the best we could do without question and follow him blindly.

Our country is doomed