Have Trump and his ICE agents become a terrifying Fascist state?

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

It looks like you got that claim from some Republicans.  Those claims have been fact checked and found to be false.

"

Some Republicans, however, have misleadingly suggested the number released into the country since Biden took office is much higher.

Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, claimed last month that 8 million “have come in illegally” and “we have to send them back.” Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis made the same claim in a GOP debate in January.

Sen. Tom Cotton of Arkansas said on “Fox News Sunday” on Feb. 11 that Biden had “allowed an invasion to occur at our border, almost 10 million migrants have crossed into our country.”

Breaking Down the Immigration Figures - FactCheck.org

The fact is we can only go by what we read on various websites.  Maybe you have some infallible source for your information, but I don't.

This is your answer? It's not as many millions as they say?

[User]

29 minutes ago, blackbird said:

If you were really being honest, you would quote the part of the post that you think is a lie.  Go ahead and quote it and let's discuss it. 

Let me refresh your memory to 2 days ago... Where I brought this up again to you and you again ran away and ignored it after I brought it up days earlier:
 

 

[blackbird]

56 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

This is your answer? It's not as many millions as they say?

I posted another article earlier that says millions have come in over many years, decades in fact and during both Republican and Democratic party administrations.  That makes sense.

[blackbird]

36 minutes ago, User said:

Let me refresh your memory to 2 days ago... Where I brought this up again to you and you again ran away and ignored it after I brought it up days earlier:
 

 

In this quote, you did not quote any lie you allege I made.   You actually quoted your own posting replying to the OP heading.   You quoted your own post calling me a liar.  

I asked you to quote a post where you think I lied.    

Edited 9 hours ago by blackbird

[Deluge]

Just now, blackbird said:

I posted another article earlier that says millions have come in over many years, decades in fact and during both Republican and Democratic party administrations.  That makes sense.

What doesn't make sense is your definition of legal immigration. It's another reason the democrats lost in the last election. 

[User]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

In this quote, you did not quote any lie you allege I made.   You actually quoted your own posting replying to the OP heading.   You quoted your own post calling me a liar.  

I asked you to quote a post where you think I lied.    

More dishonest stupid games. 

Yes, I was showing you how dishonest you were 2 days ago when you played this same stupid game and the my quoting myself was me showing you the lie:

You said, and this is the lie:

"It is you that brought up Jan. 6th"

You are nothing but a lousy pathetic liar. YOU brought it up:

"Unlike the January 6 riots at the Capitol, the protests in Los Angeles were largely peaceful. "

[blackbird]

19 minutes ago, User said:

More dishonest stupid games. 

Yes, I was showing you how dishonest you were 2 days ago when you played this same stupid game and the my quoting myself was me showing you the lie:

You said, and this is the lie:

"It is you that brought up Jan. 6th"

You are nothing but a lousy pathetic liar. YOU brought it up:

"Unlike the January 6 riots at the Capitol, the protests in Los Angeles were largely peaceful. "

It looks like the part about Jan 6 was a part of a larger article I posted,which is an opinion piece.  Opinions do not fit the definition of a lie in this case.  Someone believes Jan 6 riots were more violent than LA event.  That is someones opinion.  Everyone has  a right to their opinion sbout such things.  You are very wrong to call everything you disagree with a lie.

You need to think that over and apologize.

[User]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

It looks like the part about Jan 6 was a part of a larger article I posted,which is an opinion piece.  Opinions do not fit the definition of a lie in this case.  Someone believes Jan 6 riots were more violent than LA event.  That is someones opinion.  Everyone has  a right to their opinion sbout such things.  You are very wrong to call everything you disagree with a lie.

You need to think that over and apologize.

More lies. 

You did not address anything I quoted. 

YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID:

"It is you that brought up Jan. 6th"

No, as my response said then and over and over again since then, YOU brought it up. It doesn't matter if it was in something you quoted, YOU BROUGHT IT UP, and then you accused me of bringing it up. 

The fundamental dishonest here being to begin with that you were getting your ass kicked in your stupid arguments about January 6th, so then you tried to accuse me of bringing it up to change the subject. 

Your further dishonesty in continuing to play this stupid game of playing dumb or just outright ignoring me every time I have brought it up and now, trying to claim it was just an opinion you quoted as if that changes that fact that you lied trying to accuse me and then continued to lie repeatedly after. 

All you had to do was not falsely accuse me of bringing it up and once it was pointed out that you did, just own it. 

 

 

[taxme]

On 6/13/2025 at 3:05 PM, Matthew said:

"nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."  (14th Amendment)

The 14h Amendment was no doubt meant for American citizen's only. Not the rest of the world. How does any illegal have any rights at all in America if they are not an American citizen? 

[taxme]

On 6/14/2025 at 11:07 PM, robosmith said:

Too bad you're NEITHER a JUDGE nor a JURY and therefore your OPINIONS mean NOTHING LEGALLY.

Too bad you don't understand what it means when the US Constitution says "all persons." LMAO

All persons American, comrade. 

[taxme]

On 6/15/2025 at 8:24 AM, blackbird said:

You missed the point entirely.

If one of the parents is deported and the spouse is not deported because he or she is a U.S. citizen and/or the children are also U.S. citizens, then definitely deportation is attacking the family structure and destroying it.  

That causes great harm to the children and spouse.  

I know you have said you are not a Christian and don't accept the King James Bible as God's word.  That would explain your inability to understand the sanctity of the family.  

You need to rethink all of that.  You cannot understand the importance of this unless you become a Christian and read and study the KJV Bible.

You are opposing God and are in fact alienated from Him.  Everyone is born with a fallen, corrupt nature.  The only way to reconcile that divide between you and God is through being born again by accepting Jesus Christ, God's Son, as your Savior and Lord.  Read the gospel of John.

"

The Bible emphasizes the importance of family in countless ways. From the very beginning in Genesis to the teachings of Jesus in the New Testament, family plays a crucial role in shaping our spiritual and social lives. Whether you’re exploring the Old Testament or diving into the Gospels, you’ll find that family is a recurring theme, underscoring its significance in God’s plan for humanity.

Family as God’s Design

God’s design for family is evident right from the creation story. In Genesis 1:27-28, it’s clear that family is fundamental to God’s vision for humanity:

“So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. God blessed them and said to them, ‘Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it.'”

This passage highlights a few key points:

Creation of Man and Woman: Both were created in God’s image, establishing the foundation for equality and partnership in family life.

Be Fruitful and Multiply: This command underscores the importance of procreation and the continuation of human life through families.

Stewardship: Families are tasked with stewardship of the earth, indicating that family units are integral to societal and environmental responsibility."

The Importance of Family in the Bible - PowerfulJesus.com

You always seem to miss the point. 😇

[taxme]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And it is understandable that one may throw that ones' ass back across because they don't belong. One does what they have to when you deal with a criminal. 

So basically that what you're saying is you they know that they had no lawful right to come to the country and they're just criminals and thieves stealing what they can't get by other means

Instead of staying at home and working with other like-minded people to build a good country

All you're doing is arguing for why we should throw them back faster.

The only thing you have concern for is your virtue signaling. You have absolutely no concern for the victims involved here. In fact you can't even identify the victims involved here, you think it's the people that broke the law to steal that which wasn't theirs.

You have just admitted that these people would never be allowed into the country and have no business here. They're only reason according to you is that they don't like things where they are and rather than organize and make things better where they are they will steal what someone else has built with no regard for decency or rule of law

 

You're kind of digging yourself deeper here.

Like I said, if the Americans want to have a conversation and change the law and do away with immigration requirements and let just anybody in then they can have that conversation and they can do that. But whatever they decide other people have to respect and live with that.

And if these criminals don't like things at home, organize and make things better. That's how the world works. If you don't like your house you fix up your house, you don't steal your neighbor's house

Approx. 90% of the illegals that crossed into America illegally were single men. Many of them were just plain criminals and many of them were let out of their mental institutions because they had mental issues and their government let them go free and told them to go to America or stay in the crazy house. The majority of those criminal illegals are not what Trump wants as new citizen's. Trump is cleaning house  and deporting those criminal illegals, and good for Trump. 😁

19 hours ago, robosmith said:

Non-citizens have no right to vote and very few of the ever try, because there is no gain to justify the RISK.

That is not what i have heard. Some leftist leaning lieberal cities did allow some illegals to vote. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I posted another article earlier that says millions have come in over many years, decades in fact and during both Republican and Democratic party administrations.  That makes sense.

Lol...that's a pretty thin argument. 

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, taxme said:

Approx. 90% of the illegals that crossed into America illegally were single men. Many of them were just plain criminals and many of them were let out of their mental institutions because they had mental issues and their government let them go free and told them to go to America or stay in the crazy house. The majority of those criminal illegals are not what Trump wants as new citizen's. Trump is cleaning house  and deporting those criminal illegals, and good for Trump. 😁

That is not what i have heard. Some leftist leaning lieberal cities did allow some illegals to vote. 

robomarx is asking you to look the other way while his party destroys the country. 

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

It looks like the part about Jan 6 was a part of a larger article I posted,which is an opinion piece.  Opinions do not fit the definition of a lie in this case.  Someone believes Jan 6 riots were more violent than LA event.  That is someones opinion.  Everyone has  a right to their opinion sbout such things.  You are very wrong to call everything you disagree with a lie.

You need to think that over and apologize.

Right after you apologize for trespassing.

This is not your land, pervert. I want you to pack your shit and vacate this country - immediately. 

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, taxme said:

That is not what i have heard. Some leftist leaning lieberal cities did allow some illegals to vote. 

That is ONLY local elections, like the school board because their kids are directly involved.

Thanks for demonstrating that FOS LIES only tells half the story. 💡

[taxme]

19 hours ago, blackbird said:

So you trust a convicted felon to be doing the right things?  He screwed Canada and other countries pretty well with his tariffs and killed thousands of jobs.  Not the brightest light in the world to be trusting to do the right thing.

I already posted an article that shows undocumented migrants are doing countless jobs in agriculture, hotels, and other jobs that nobody else wants to touch.  Trump had to put the brakes on deporting people in a lot of jobs.

America is an exclusive club and only certain people are accepted into it and the rest well, tough luck.  Not much humanity in that kind of system.  Definitely fascist.

"Criminal illegals is a bit of stretch for people who are just trying to feed and take care of their families.  You are just fortunate you were born in a relatively prosperous country with far fewer criminals.  You did nothing to earn it.  It was just an accident you are here.  Don't scoff at the less fortunate and call them criminal illegals.  You don't know what will happen in the future.  You're just very fortunate now and you did nothing to earn it.

So, if Trump is a convicted felon, then why is Trump not in jail? I know why? He was never charged for anything and found not guilty for anything. Charging Trump with a felony was a trumped up charge committed by the communist demonrats in order to try and have Trump convicted on nothing and put Trump in jail before the election. It backfired.  

Well then, you should be quite happy about what Trump has done and where Trump has put on the brakes on deporting many illegals. Some illegals just got lucky. 

America is a globalist corporate and special interest group club country and you and me and thee are not invited into that club. We the sheeple get to make no decisions on our future. We are all slaves to the WEF globalist system. 

Oh, quit with the bleeding heart white lieberal crybaby nonsense, will you. If you had your way, America and Canada would become a 3rd world communist hell hole in a very short time. It's thanks to Trump that he has slowed that illegal bullshit down. Where there were tens of thousands of illegals crossing the Mexican border almost every day into America during the Bidumb era, but thanks to Trump, he has pretty much sealed the border and stopped millions more illegals from entering America illegally. No matter how you want to slice it, entering America illegally is a crime period. Live with it. 

[taxme]

26 minutes ago, Deluge said:

robomarx is asking you to look the other way while his party destroys the country. 

Right after you apologize for trespassing.

This is not your land, pervert. I want you to pack your shit and vacate this country - immediately. 

Robomarx is a communist. Otherwise, why would anyone want to support a political party like the lieberals after all that the lying lieberals have done to Canada to try and destroy everything decent and moral about Canada in the past ten years and instead preferred to want to turn Canada into a communist hell hole.

Canada is full of these Marxist arse holes that cannot seem to get it that what the communists will do to me will be the same thing they will do to robo if the communists ever took over Canada. This website will be shut down within hours. Of course, maybe that is hat robo Marxist wants to see happen. Canada needs less of these lieberal Marxists traitors. They should go live in North Korea or Cuba. They should be quite happy living there where freedom of speech does not exist.

[robosmith]

50 minutes ago, taxme said:

All persons American, comrade. 

Nope. The Constitution clearly states with different terms when it refers to ONLY CITIZENS.

"all persons" means EVERYONE within the borders..

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

Robomarx is a communist. Otherwise, why would anyone want to support a political party like the lieberals after all that the lying lieberals have done to Canada to try and destroy everything decent and moral about Canada in the past ten years and instead preferred to want to turn Canada into a communist hell hole.

Canada is full of these Marxist arse holes that cannot seem to get it that what the communists will do to me will be the same thing they will do to robo if the communists ever took over Canada. This website will be shut down within hours. Of course, maybe that is hat robo Marxist wants to see happen. Canada needs less of these lieberal Marxists traitors. They should go live in North Korea or Cuba. They should be quite happy living there where freedom of speech does not exist.

You should learn that FOS LIES doesn't tell you the truth much of the time. That's why they had to pay $800M to Dominion for LYING.

[taxme]

30 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That is ONLY local elections, like the school board because their kids are directly involved.

Thanks for demonstrating that FOS LIES only tells half the story. 💡

Illegals should not have any say or vote at all if they are not American citizen's. They could change the outcomes of what an American citizen wants done in their schools. Americans could say yes on some issue, and the illegals could say no on that issue and the Americans could lose their issue vote to illegals. That is not democracy. That is total bullshit. 

Thank gawd for FOX NEWS. I can get the other side of the story with FOX NEWS. I would never learn or know as to what  communists like you are up too in America. 😛

[User]

35 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That is ONLY local elections, like the school board because their kids are directly involved.

Thanks for demonstrating that FOS LIES only tells half the story. 💡

Wrong again. 

New York City tried to let illegal immigrants vote in city elections. It was struck down as unconstitutional. 

 

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nope. The Constitution clearly states with different terms when it refers to ONLY CITIZENS.

"all persons" means EVERYONE within the borders..

Wrong. 

"All persons" means all citizens. If the founding fathers wanted the entire planet within our borders they would have said so. Fortunately the founding fathers weren't a bunch of f*cking communists like you guys, so the deportations continue, and we do away with the anchor baby program.  

 

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You should learn that FOS LIES doesn't tell you the truth much of the time. That's why they had to pay $800M to Dominion for LYING.

Oh, here we go again. You just cannot stop btinging up the $800 lawsuit, can you. Why is it that nwhen you cannot win an argument with me, you go and bring up the $800 bullshit nonsense. You seem to want to ignore that CNN had lawsuits brought against that communist outfit for lying and in the end had to pay up. Ha-ha-ha.   

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The 14h Amendment was no doubt meant for American citizen's only. Not the rest of the world. How does any illegal have any rights at all in America if they are not an American citizen? 

Read what it says.  ""nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."  (14th Amendment)"

It says "any person".   It does not say only an American citizen.   Any person is any person, even illegal immigrants.  The fact is there are many people in the U.S. who are not American citizens.  There are lawful permanent residents or Green Card holders.  There are visitors and tourists.  There are foreign students and people with Visas.  There are people with passports visiting or on business from other countries and there documented and undocumented immigrants.  The 14th amendment applies to everyone.

Edited 6 hours ago by blackbird

[robosmith]

46 minutes ago, taxme said:

Illegals should not have any say or vote at all if they are not American citizen's. They could change the outcomes of what an American citizen wants done in their schools. Americans could say yes on some issue, and the illegals could say no on that issue and the Americans could lose their issue vote to illegals. That is not democracy. That is total bullshit. 

Thank gawd for FOX NEWS. I can get the other side of the story with FOX NEWS. I would never learn or know as to what  communists like you are up too in America. 😛

The ability for immigrants to vote in local elections like school boards was APPROVED by the citizens affected. They are free to do that and your OPINION doesn't matter.