The car rammer was a guy with mental health issues but was on leave from involuntary treatment

[eyeball]

55 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You said what I said you said.

You're a fùcking liar.

[eyeball]

56 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You have a long history of caring far more for the attacker than the victim. 

You have a long history of never responding to what anyone says without first turning it into a strawman.

[SpankyMcFarland]

The dreadful state of psychiatric care in Canada is the predictable result of an all-party effort, or lack thereof, going back decades. Doctors and nurses are trained to resist admitting patients to hospital because there are so few beds there. The ultimate culprit is us, the voters. We don’t think about this problem or push to sort it out until there’s a disaster. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

You're a fùcking liar.

I'm telling the truth. If you're so embarrassed over what you said or so angry that someone would point it out, maybe you should be careful what you say in the future. Whether it's claiming that civilians had it coming because 1948, or claiming that some violent repeat offender deserves to be free no matter what happens to his innocent victims, or that we're all to blame for the fact that some guy drives through a crowd killing children instead of the guy, All of that stuff looks really bad on you and people are going to call you out on it

So maybe start having some sympathy for the victims? You might wind up crying like a baby and falsely accusing people a lot less

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The dreadful state of psychiatric care in Canada is the predictable result of an all-party effort, or lack thereof, going back decades. Doctors and nurses are trained to resist admitting patients to hospital because there are so few beds there. The ultimate culprit is us, the voters. We don’t think about this problem or push to sort it out until there’s a disaster. 

How is that the case here? Apparently the guy had full doctor support specialists access to hospitalization and all the medicine you can eat. I think you'd have a bit of a stretch claiming that somehow he's suffering from a lack of support

So considering he was getting treatment how does that connect with what you said?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I'm telling the truth.

Prove it or go fùck yourself.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So maybe start having some sympathy for the victims?

Go practice what you preach liar.

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

How is that the case here? Apparently the guy had full doctor support specialists access to hospitalization and all the medicine you can eat. I think you'd have a bit of a stretch claiming that somehow he's suffering from a lack of support

So considering he was getting treatment how does that connect with what you said?

I don’t know it was the case here and I did not claim it was. I do know that even optimal care these days operates under serious constraints. Doctors are under constant pressure not to admit patients. 

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Prove it or go fùck yourself.

 

we both know it's true.  That's why you're freaking out. You're embarrassed by what you've said and that's chronic with you.

You constantly say the attacker was the REAL victim and their rights are more important than the people they've hurt or killed. 

You know that mentally ill driver killed a 5 year old kid.  I'm not sure how you justify the idea that the driver's rights are more important than the life of that innocent kid who had done nothing.  Honestly it's shameful. 

 

46 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I don’t know it was the case here and I did not claim it was. I do know that even optimal care these days operates under serious constraints. Doctors are under constant pressure not to admit patients. 

Wouldn't that suggest locking them up is a necessity? Whether you're treating them or not it sounds like they're dangerous

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You know that mentally ill driver killed a 5 year old kid.

You did too and the first thing you had to do was use these victims as yet another background and prop to slag lefties with.

Go fùck yourself you hypocritical lying sack of shit.

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You did too and the first thing you had to do was use these victims as yet another background and prop to slag lefties with.

 

Actually you were the one that brought up the whole issue first with the man who tried to kill that woman. That's when you started going off about how mentally ill patients should have their rights considered more important than the victims or other people because society deserves it or the like, 

I'm just pointing out that the consequences of your philosophy are that children like this get to die. The police knew this guy was struggling, they knew that he was dangerous, he had received all of the medical care that he could possibly reasonably expect, but because of people like you he was allowed to wander around free and clear to go kill whatever children he felt was appropriate.

I would have preferred to see him locked up. And the child and  the other 10 people would be alive

I'm sure to you that's some sort of debate point. I think to everyone else that's a tragedy and horrific. We just see the world differently

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Actually you were the one that brought up the whole issue first with the man who tried to kill that woman.

Fùck off liar.

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You did too and the first thing you had to do was use these victims as yet another background and prop to slag lefties with.

Go fùck yourself you hypocritical lying sack of shit.

OH NOO!!!  LOOK!!!  Another violent criminal who stabbed two women near to death was almost put behind bars!!!

Thankfully the judge shares YOUR logic and decided that, while a complete unconditional discharge was going too far (why?) that he should AT LEAST be allowed to go free immediately and not serve jail time for his crimes of nearly killing two women. 

All because he had a 'breakdown' that day. 

If only society would stop giving a crap about the poor women who will live knowing he's back on the street after nearly turning them into sushi, and start worrying about the TRUE victim, the poor attacker who had to live through all of this. 

No time behind bars for man who stabbed Alberta sisters in his Vancouver Airbnb unit | Globalnews.ca

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Thankfully the judge shares YOUR logic and decided that, while a complete unconditional discharge was going too far (why?) that he should AT LEAST be allowed to go free immediately and not serve jail time for his crimes of nearly killing two women. 

From your story...

In handing down the sentence, B.C. Provincial Court Judge Harbans Dhillon noted Pasha had no prior criminal record, accepted responsibility with his guilty plea, had performed well on bail and had abstained from cannabis use.

There's your reason why, I can't say I entirely agree with it myself but it is what it is.  In the meantime I don't see anything in the ruling saying its the lefts fault do you?  Did you see any mention of the left in any of the news stories surrounding mental illness the last week or so?

Why not? Because it has nothing to do with anything.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

From your story...

In handing down the sentence, B.C. Provincial Court Judge Harbans Dhillon noted Pasha had no prior criminal record, accepted responsibility with his guilty plea, had performed well on bail and had abstained from cannabis use.

There's your reason why, I can't say I entirely agree with it myself but it is what it is.  In the meantime I don't see anything in the ruling saying its the lefts fault do you?  Did you see any mention of the left in any of the news stories surrounding mental illness the last week or so?

Why not? Because it has nothing to do with anything.

Looks like you skipped this part. 

Pasha’s lawyer had sought a conditional discharge, which would have left him with no criminal record should he adhere to conditions, arguing his client suffered a mental breakdown on the day of the attack brought on by heavy cannabis use and has an “unspecified psychotic disorder.”

The Crown argued a discharge is contrary to the public interest, given the extreme violence of the offence, but did not seek additional jail time either, acknowledging Pasha’s mental illness left him with a “lessened moral culpability.”

So he was mentally distressed and they let him off to roam the streets and be violent again as a result

That's why he was let off. Because the danger he posed to society was a result of mental illness and Beyond his control, they decided to release him into the public space where his mental illness will still not be controlled and he can still be violent

 

Which is your preferred method

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Looks like you skipped this part...

...The Crown argued a discharge is contrary to the public interest, given the extreme violence of the offence, but did not seek additional jail time either, acknowledging Pasha’s mental illness left him with a “lessened moral culpability.”

Looks like you bolded the part that you seem to think gives you a licence to drag the left into it.

Your preferred method.

 

[blackbird]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's why he was let off. Because the danger he posed to society was a result of mental illness and Beyond his control, they decided to release him into the public space where his mental illness will still not be controlled and he can still be violent

Exactly.  That's an example that shows clearly that the justice system, which is supposed to protect society, is in a serious failed state.

Anybody that is charged with a violent criminal offence and found to be guilty as a result of a mental illness, should automatically be committed to a mental institution.

Edited 21 hours ago by blackbird

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, blackbird said:

Anybody that is charged with a violent criminal offence and found to be guilty as a result of a mental illness, should automatically be committed to a mental institution.

Which one, where? The few we have are already full. They'll have to release some to make room for the new ones.

[blackbird]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Which one, where? The few we have are already full. They'll have to release some to make room for the new ones.

I don't decide which one or where.  That is what the purpose of government is.  Open them and use them.

[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Which one, where? The few we have are already full. They'll have to release some to make room for the new ones.

Then you should build more.

 

 

[Legato]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Looks like you bolded the part that you seem to think gives you a licence to drag the left into it.

No need to drag the left into anything when the left are already there with a hug-a-thug mentality.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Which one, where? The few we have are already full. They'll have to release some to make room for the new ones.

So build more   Too bad you didn't give a crap about that all those years you were demanding we waste money and drag our economy to a halt with climate change carbon taxes. Now we still have global warming and we have a shortage. I guess we'll have to lock them up in jail until something changes

12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Exactly.  That's an example that shows clearly that the justice system, which is supposed to protect society, is in a serious failed state.

Anybody that is charged with a violent criminal offence and found to be guilty as a result of a mental illness, should automatically be committed to a mental institution.

Absolutely. And if we don't have a mental institution available that I'm afraid they have to go to jail. You cannot let a raven dog play with your children just because it's not the dog's fault it got rabies

Edited 8 hours ago by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Looks like you bolded the part that you seem to think gives you a licence to drag the left into it.

 

 

Go to the part that proves that you lied a poster so earlier about what caused this.

And once again you lied about something and you want it to be my fault somehow. 

[CdnFox]

LOLOL,  Hey @ExFlyer,  i see you're following me around but are too scared to comment, you just leave those passive aggressive down arrows like a **** and run off     

are you still crying? Honest to god it's been days now you need to get over it and stop behaving like some weird little whipped Chihuahua that hides behind a fence and barks at all the big dogs as they walk past   This is why nobody thinks you're actually an adult

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

I don't decide which one or where.  That is what the purpose of government is.  Open them and use them.

You have to build a bunch first, something that was pointed out decades ago. The ones we have are filled to capacity which is why so few new patients get admitted. Judges and prosecutors know this and it's why mistakes happen and sometimes why people who should be in them aren't.

Of course everytime this makes the news it seems like new news and you guys can be counted on to jump 10 in the air.

It's been rinse and repeat like this for nearly 40 years now.

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, User said:

Then you should build more.

You figured that all out on your did you?