Even the Whoopi is Starting To See the Wisdom of Small Government

[gatomontes99]

This is the essence of small government. This is the heart of local politics. When I voted for Trump i was 1 of 152 million. When I voted for Abbott I was 1 of 8 million. When I voted for my Texas rep, I was one of 50,000. When I voted for myor of my town, I was 1 of 609.

You have the most freedom and the biggest say in the smallest elections. I can go talk to my mayor and he will listen. That's how I got our little league baseball field fixed.

Smaller is better for you. You have a bigger voice. With no department of education, you can go to the school board and tell them you want better online learning tools or better lunches or higher paid teachers and they can do something about it. As it stands right now, there are so many strings attached that these school boards can't change where the money goes. Our school had $1.35 million from the state and federal government for grass. They don't even have enough grass to justify a riding lawn mower. But the school board can't divert the money because that would violate federal mandates and they'd lose the rest of the money. So they spend $1.35 on a small patch of grass. It looks great BTW.

 

[robosmith]

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So they spend $1.35 on a small patch of grass. It looks great BTW.

AKA, a whole thread about $1.35 worth of grass which "looks great." LMAO

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

This is the essence of small government. This is the heart of local politics. When I voted for Trump i was 1 of 152 million. When I voted for Abbott I was 1 of 8 million. When I voted for my Texas rep, I was one of 50,000. When I voted for myor of my town, I was 1 of 609.

You have the most freedom and the biggest say in the smallest elections. I can go talk to my mayor and he will listen. That's how I got our little league baseball field fixed.

Smaller is better for you. You have a bigger voice. With no department of education, you can go to the school board and tell them you want better online learning tools or better lunches or higher paid teachers and they can do something about it. As it stands right now, there are so many strings attached that these school boards can't change where the money goes. Our school had $1.35 million from the state and federal government for grass. They don't even have enough grass to justify a riding lawn mower. But the school board can't divert the money because that would violate federal mandates and they'd lose the rest of the money. So they spend $1.35 on a small patch of grass. It looks great BTW.

 

All the challenges that I think some on the left are beginning to realize that if you go too far with some of this stuff you open the door to someone like trump coming in and ripping it all apart and the public backing it. If you want to build something you need to not be so crazy and you are far better off to control it yourself rather than wait for the government to hold your hand and wipe your nose.

If trump's efforts get nothing more than that across the people it will be valuable.

55 minutes ago, robosmith said:

AKA, a whole thread about $1.35 worth of grass which "looks great." LMAO

Yes, we know we know. You don't care about any vegetation in the world unless it's zucchini.

(here's a picture of robosmith and his first wife  

 

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

AKA, a whole thread about $1.35 worth of grass which "looks great." LMAO

What it's really about is the mythology of how American political economy works.

 

There's a massive private government that runs things invisibly.  I'd be glad with a smaller government that did away with both public and private.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

What it's really about is the mythology of how American political economy works.

 

There's a massive private government that runs things invisibly.  I'd be glad with a smaller government that did away with both public and private.

So...you approve of what DOGE and Trump are doing then?

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So...you approve of what DOGE and Trump are doing then?

Believe it or not, I approve of the principle behind it and everyone who lives in the west should.

Someone needs to pull apart, simplify, and retune government so that it's simple enough for the average person to understand.  It's a fundamental problem, and adds to the general strife, that nobody can authoritatively say WTF is actually happening.   We end up relying on tribal authorities, and objectivity becomes too expensive.

Now, the methods that DOGE are using seem (SEEM) to be infantile.  As someone who has spent their career working it large organization IT, I can authoritatively tell you that the narrative coming from both sides is riddled with misinfo/disinfo.  NOBODY can show up on day one and have the effect that is claimed... claimed by BOTH SIDES.  And this is evidence of my point in the paragraph above.

But the layoffs are real, and the cavalier approach are dully irresponsible so I would put a halt to it and restart with a process that is open, collaborative and agile.  Believe it or not the workers themselves are likely to have the best ideas as to how to improve things, in my experience.  But you have to change the culture.

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Believe it or not, I approve of the principle behind it and everyone who lives in the west should.

Someone needs to pull apart, simplify, and retune government so that it's simple enough for the average person to understand.  It's a fundamental problem, and adds to the general strife, that nobody can authoritatively say WTF is actually happening.   We end up relying on tribal authorities, and objectivity becomes too expensive.

Now, the methods that DOGE are using seem (SEEM) to be infantile.  As someone who has spent their career working it large organization IT, I can authoritatively tell you that the narrative coming from both sides is riddled with misinfo/disinfo.  NOBODY can show up on day one and have the effect that is claimed... claimed by BOTH SIDES.  And this is evidence of my point in the paragraph above.

But the layoffs are real, and the cavalier approach are dully irresponsible so I would put a halt to it and restart with a process that is open, collaborative and agile.  Believe it or not the workers themselves are likely to have the best ideas as to how to improve things, in my experience.  But you have to change the culture.

But first you trim the fat. And when I say fat, I mean all the work from home slobs binge watching their favorite programs.

Cut the fat, then get to work on streamlining agencies or cutting them completely, and I believe that's what DOGE has already been doing. 

[User]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'd be glad with a smaller government that did away with both public and private.

OK... how exactly does this work? What do you mean by do away with private? Private what?