SpankyMcFarland Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 Given that much of the Liberal support is recent, couldn’t polls predicting a big win keep some of them at home? Quote
Barquentine Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 7 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Given that much of the Liberal support is recent, couldn’t polls predicting a big win keep some of them at home? That's always a danger. If we get close to election day and the polls show a massive liberal lead than many liberal supporters may very well say well there's no point in going out to vote we've already won this one. And we have definitely see that impact elections and the past. The BC 2013 election is being tell it right now as an example where the posters got it wrong, but the reality is when you look at the numbers the posters were right it's just that the NDP supporters and the demographic groups that the MVP appealed to all stayed home because everybody thought it was going to be an easy win. And that's where the difference in the parties gotv systems can actually make a real difference. The conservative Get Out The Vote machine is actually slightly better than the liberals. Now the liberals isn't terrible but seeing as a lot of their current support is ex ndp they may not have them on the radar come voting day and that's going to seriously impact their ability to get their voters out. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 1 minute ago, Barquentine said: Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? Sure, so the group who's going to be defunded if polievre wins says that polievre's bad. Very believable The simple answer would be because they only have to ask Poilievre things once. They have to ask carney five times and while he may respond he doesn't actually answer the question. For example the other day he was asked about in china issue and he said he rejects the question. That's not answering it but your friends at the CBC will mark it as an answer. So the press tends to ask it again Poilievre just gives answers to the questions and there's no need to ask again 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Sure, so the group who's going to be defunded if polievre wins says that polievre's bad. Very believable The simple answer would be because they only have to ask Poilievre things once. They have to ask carney five times and while he may respond he doesn't actually answer the question. You and I both know they're not going to be defunded. Or maybe it's because PeePee often doesn't answer questions but just spouts more slogans. The results make sense since journalists aren't allowed on the Con's plane. And Radio-Canada is not going to publish false results that someone else could easily call them out on. That's PeePee's modus operandi. 1 Quote
Dave L Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 On 4/6/2025 at 6:12 PM, WestCanMan said: Polls have always overestimated the Liberals in Canada. That's just what they do. If you found a polling firm that didn't generate the results that CBC wanted, they'd just never be cited. If the poll I just posted overestimated the conservative vote then it's the first of its kind. The only poll that counts is the one you vote in. Poilievre is out of his league in this fight, he has never dealt with a crisis and has never held a job other than one of Politics. Carney has had many real jobs. He lead the Bank of England through Brexit. Poilievre says he will lower the deficit but in every promise he has made, the costs are more than the Liberal promises. So is he going to raise taxes or cut programs. You can't have it both ways. Get realistic. 1 Quote
Dave L Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 30 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? If you don't know the answer you can't reply. Quote
Dave L Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 47 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Given that much of the Liberal support is recent, couldn’t polls predicting a big win keep some of them at home? This election is all about our relationship with the US. I would predict record turn out in this election. Obviously the populace was going to vote for the Cons because it was the best of the worst. That has now changed. Every election is won for the same reason. Every body votes for the least offensive person. The polls seem to have that right. Quote
Dave L Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 I am going to ask the Conservative supporters, to answer and tell me what the best legislation the Conservatives have ever passed. This should be interesting. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 33 minutes ago, Barquentine said: You and I both know they're not going to be defunded. I am 100% sure they will be defunded and so are they. Radio Canada may survive, it's actually capable of generating enough revenue to survive on its own without government funding and it provides certain french services that the government will want to keep up, but the CBC in large will have its funding completely cut off and it simply isn't financially viable without it. And they know this. The liberals on the other hand are talking about increasing their funding. Tell me all about how it's an impartial source we should listen to Quote Or maybe it's because PeePee often doesn't answer questions but just spouts more slogans. Spouting slogans would still be an answer Quote The results make sense since journalists aren't allowed on the Con's plane. So it's not that he's refusing to answer questions at all, it's that they haven't got as many opportunities to ask him questions. Quote And Radio-Canada is not going to publish false results that someone else could easily call them out on. That's PeePee's modus operandi. They do all the time and they get called out all the time and poilievre never has. Your credibility is nose diving pretty quickly here. If all you've got is lies and dishonesty then really people are going to stop debating with you and just start pointing and laughing at you Quote
Barquentine Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Given that much of the Liberal support is recent, couldn’t polls predicting a big win keep some of them at home? And for the Cons, couldn’t polls predicting a big loss keep some of them at home? I'm just waiting for the Cons to start saying "The system is rigged!" 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 59 minutes ago, Barquentine said: And for the Cons, couldn’t polls predicting a big loss keep some of them at home? It can. People think there's no hope then they won't bother coming out Quote I'm just waiting for the Cons to start saying "The system is rigged!" Yes that's because you're a Hate-filled ignorant bigot who's driven largely by spite. In fact even though the conservatives won the popular vote for the last two elections they haven't come forward or suggested there was anything inappropriate or that the system should be changed or all of the usual whining we hear from the left in Canada . Just out of curiosity, have you ever considered not being an ignorant pr*ck? Asking for a friend. Quote
Barquentine Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 57 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Spouting slogans would still be an answer Finally you agree - that's what PeePee does. 58 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So it's not that he's refusing to answer questions at all, it's that they haven't got as many opportunities to ask him questions. Well, isn't that convenient? Hmmmmm? 59 minutes ago, CdnFox said: They do all the time and they get called out all the time Examples? Your credibility has nose dived here. Quote
Barquentine Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Yes that's because you're a Hate-filled ignorant bigot who's driven largely by spite Well phrased cogent argument. Just what we've come to expect from you. 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Just out of curiosity, have you ever considered not being an ignorant pr*ck? Did I hit a nerve? Or are you just having a bad day, week, month, life? Better you should vent on me than your family, I guess. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 3 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Finally you agree - that's what PeePee does. I never said anything about what Poilievre does. I said if he did it would still be an answer Are you reduced to this? Twisting people's words out of shape to try and score a cheap point? Is that all you've got left? Is carney failing so badly in your mind or is Poilievre doing so well in your mind that you simply couldn't come up with anything better than that? Wow. Quote Well, isn't that convenient? Hmmmmm? Why would that be convenient? They can ask whatever questions they want when he's around and he answers them. Quote Examples? There are tons. But seeing as we're in an election why don't we go with the most recent election one. They completely lied about having emails that Daniel Smith supposedly sent to their justice people. She said they didn't, the justice department said they didn't, then she had a third party easily verify that by looking through all of their emails and checking their logs and even the third party audit said they didn't. But the CBC kept insisting they did right up until the election was over and then they said that they admitted that they didn't actually have it, had never seen it, and had totally violated journalistic ethics by not having obtained it before making the accusation. But until the election was over they still insisted they had it Perfect example. They insisted something that could easily be verified to be untrue and to continue to insist that it was true to try and interfere with an election, only admitting that they were wrong and that they shouldn't have done it after the election was over and she had already won. Oopsie. Looks like there are examples I noticed you didn't give any for Poilievre doing it Quote Your credibility has nose dived here. Credibility was 1/10 of what it actually is right now it would still be five times as much as yours. I always speak from a position of facts and knowledge and it is becoming apparent that you always speak from exactly the opposite Quote
taxme Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 On 4/6/2025 at 4:18 PM, Michael Hardner said: https://338canada.com/polls.htm The 338 reported the poll from March 29. It looks. It's been about 25 polls since then, none of which show the CPC ahead. It would be easy to look back and compare predictions. What do you think? Hye MH, i am pretty sure that you would never vote for the conservative party. Why? Because they make a lot more common sense then one of your Marxist party's. It's those Marxist party's that have virtually destroyed this once great nation we call Canada. Let me ask you a question. What have the liberals ever done to try and make Canada great again, besides them trying to destroy Canada? No lefty liberal here can or won't tell me. Can you, MH? just asking. Quote
taxme Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? Probably due to the fact that the Canadian MSM do not like the conservatives and what they have to say. Commom sense scares the hell out of the Canadian media. Just remember that the Canadian MSM is on the payroll of the liberal government. And we conservatives still have to pay for their lefty liberal salaries. Their is no fairness and honesty in the Canadian lefty liberal media anymore. Just lies and bullshit that comes from their lying mouths. Poiliever has a lot to say, but the Canadianm media do not want to have to listen to what they have to say. The Canadian leftist liberal media are always and only looking for something that some conservative might say that appears to be racist or anti, gay. ☹️ Quote
eyeball Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? He subscribes to the same MSM/librul bias conspiracy theory that lives rent free in most right wing minds - and they actually think it's a thought control program for controlling lefties. LMAO! But seriously if they thought they were immune to it why would they fear it - instead of confronting it why run away from it? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
WestCanMan Posted April 10 Author Report Posted April 10 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: that's what PeePee does. How old are you? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted April 11 Author Report Posted April 11 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: Just saw a report from Radio-Canada that sifted through all the data on the Leaders interactions with the Press. Poilievre has answered the fewest questions of the three party leaders. Wonder why? Let's be honest, you know that CBC's job is to win the election for Carney. That means 3 things: ask him as many questions as possible, only show the best answers ask other leaders lots of questions, only show the worst answers don't give Pierre another apple-eating viral moment How many times have reporters thrown "gotcha" questions at Poilievre only to end up wishing they hadn't? Would you wanna be the next CBC reporter to end up hoisted on their own petard? What do you say to your boss? "Maybe Rebel News will hire us"? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Dave L Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: It can. People think there's no hope then they won't bother coming out Yes that's because you're a Hate-filled ignorant bigot who's driven largely by spite. In fact even though the conservatives won the popular vote for the last two elections they haven't come forward or suggested there was anything inappropriate or that the system should be changed or all of the usual whining we hear from the left in Canada . Just out of curiosity, have you ever considered not being an ignorant pr*ck? Asking for a friend. With that attitude I doubt you have any friends. The only reason the Cons won the popular vote is because the right leaning west doesn't know how to vote for anyone other than a Con Man. Provinces east of Manitoba have voted differently in different elections based on the issues. The west cares not for issues but for their party loyalty. This is how the USA got into the trouble they are in now. They do a party first vote and the country comes second. I thought Canadians were smarter than that. I voted in the last 3 elections for the NDP as a strategic vote in Saskatchewan. Not this time around. And there is a lot of us doing that. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: Well phrased cogent argument. Just what we've come to expect from you. Act like a child get treated like a child And look, you're even crying about it! Quote Did I hit a nerve? I told you many times stupidity always winds up annoying me at some point or another, unless I just laugh at it Quote
eyeball Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: How many times have reporters thrown "gotcha" questions at Poilievre only to end up wishing they hadn't? Would you wanna be the next CBC reporter to end up hoisted on their own petard? What do you say to your boss? "Maybe Rebel News will hire us"? So again I ask, if Poilievre is so invincible when it comes to the press why is he afraid to answer its questions? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: So again I ask, if Poilievre is so invincible when it comes to the press why is he afraid to answer its questions? The answers questions every day and lots of them. The real question is why are you so afraid of making statements that are truthful instead of this kind of crap? Quote
eyeball Posted April 11 Report Posted April 11 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The answers questions every day and lots of them. And lots fewer than everyone else. Half as many as Carney and 2/3 fewer than Blanchette or Singh. 22 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The real question is why are you so afraid of making statements that are truthful instead of this kind of crap? What fear, what crap? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/poilievre-answers-fewer-questions-than-other-leaders-analysis-finds/vi-AA1CH6Pg?ocid=socialshare#details You often hear people will move away from Carney once they get to know him. Is Poilievre afraid that Canadians might get to know him better? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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