We definitely need a Conservative government to get pipelines built in Canada

[Moonlight Graham]

20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Canada, where you are overwhelmingly condemned simply for having any faith in the Nazarene at all

as opposed to Red State America,

where you would be welcomed with open arms as just another pilgrim on the road to Calvary

Canada is not even Loyalist to the British Crown anymore,

Canadians are already de facto American republicans at this juncture, they are simply Democrats therein

so what is it that you would even be defending here now ?

I think you might have obsessive-compulsive disorder where you can't think about anything other than the same single issue inside your mind 24/7.

[Dougie93]

13 minutes ago, blackbird said:

  You're wasting your time spouting Trump's nonsense on here.

Donald Trump is a Scots German,

his mother was Mary Anne MacLeod from the Hebrides

Donald Trump prizes the House of Windsor far more than the overwhelming majority of Canadians do,

Donald Trump is more British than the British themselves actually

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I think you might have obsessive-compulsive disorder where you can't think about anything other than the same single issue inside your mind 24/7.

don't brame me, roundeye, for refusing to acknowledge your fake country Post National State as being legitimate,

obviously I have no interest whatsoever in defending nor upholding DEI/2SLGBTQ+ as a state religion therein,

nobody is more American than the Liberal Party of Canada, farm team for the Democrat party,

at which point, I might as well return whence the United Empire Loyalists came,

to America, and the Declaration of Independence Preamble,

free speech, gun rights & low taxes FTW

Sua Sponte

[Moonlight Graham]

10 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

don't brame me, roundeye, for refusing to acknowledge your fake country Post National State as being legitimate,

obviously I have no interest whatsoever in defending nor upholding DEI/2SLGBTQ+ as a state religion therein,

nobody is more American than the Liberal Party of Canada, farm team for the Democrat party,

at which point, I might as well return whence the United Empire Loyalists came,

to America, and the Declaration of Independence Preamble,

free speech, gun rights & low taxes FTW

Sua Sponte

The British empire died in WWII, before you were born.  Get over it.

Like all the Brits who move to Canada thinking we're still part of the UK, I tell them the facts and watch them cry about it.  Want a hanky?

[blackbird]

On 3/3/2025 at 12:05 PM, Dougie93 said:

free speech, gun rights & low taxes FTW

"

48,000

In 2022, there were more than 48,000 firearm-related deaths in the United States, which averages to about 132 people dying from a firearm-related injury each day. The U.S. is the only high-income country with such a high death toll from gun violence."

58, 220 Americans died in the Vietnam War.  So nearly as many Americans are killed by people with guns in America every year.

So how's that working for you?  There are more guns owned privately than the population of the U.S.   But the MAGA gang have their "gun rights".

 

Edited March 5 by blackbird

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

"

48,000

In 2022, there were more than 48,000 firearm-related deaths in the United States, which averages to about 132 people dying from a firearm-related injury each day. The U.S. is the only high-income country with such a high death toll from gun violence."

58, 220 Americans died in the Vietnam War.  So nearly as many Americans are killed by people with guns in America every year.

So how's that working for you?  There are more guns owned privately than the population of the U.S.   But the MAGA gang have their "gun rights".

 

It's sad that this tired old saying needs to be trotted out again for the ignorant, but guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The vast majority of those deaths you mentioned our crime related. Gang members killing other gang members, that sort of thing. And here's the problem, when somebody decides that they want to kill someone else and that that's okay the specific tool doesn't really matter.

If the presence of guns led to a higher homicide rate then that would be consistent across countries. You would tend to see that countries that allowed more guns Suffered more homicides. And that turns out not to be true. In fact in a research paper done by professor Gary Mauser in Canada it was shown that there is no correlation at all between the number of or availability of guns and the homicide rate.

In short, americans are deciding to kill each other for other reasons and guns happen to be one of the tools that they use

And you know you're full of nonsense because you have to use fake statistics. You include gun deaths which includes accidental and suicide. Yet far more people will die from car accidents and yet you think nothing of it. Rope is an extremely common suicide tool but I don't hear you complaining about rope deaths.

  canada has a huge number of guns, But we don't have anywhere near the number of gun deaths. Switzerland makes it mandatory to have an ACTUAL assault rifle and they have very few gun homicides, 

So it ain't the guns. And the right to self-defense is absolutely a right that all people should have

 

[Legato]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's sad that this tired old saying needs to be trotted out again for the ignorant, but guns don't kill people. People kill people.

The vast majority of those deaths you mentioned our crime related. Gang members killing other gang members, that sort of thing. And here's the problem, when somebody decides that they want to kill someone else and that that's okay the specific tool doesn't really matter.

If the presence of guns led to a higher homicide rate then that would be consistent across countries. You would tend to see that countries that allowed more guns Suffered more homicides. And that turns out not to be true. In fact in a research paper done by professor Gary Mauser in Canada it was shown that there is no correlation at all between the number of or availability of guns and the homicide rate.

In short, americans are deciding to kill each other for other reasons and guns happen to be one of the tools that they use

And you know you're full of nonsense because you have to use fake statistics. You include gun deaths which includes accidental and suicide. Yet far more people will die from car accidents and yet you think nothing of it. Rope is an extremely common suicide tool but I don't hear you complaining about rope deaths.

  canada has a huge number of guns, But we don't have anywhere near the number of gun deaths. Switzerland makes it mandatory to have an ACTUAL assault rifle and they have very few gun homicides, 

So it ain't the guns. And the right to self-defense is absolutely a right that all people should have

 

wonder what the fast food/ highly processed food deaths statistics are, firearms numbers probably pale in comparison.

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, Legato said:

wonder what the fast food/ highly processed food deaths statistics are, firearms numbers probably pale in comparison.

You're right. 

 the mean estimate of deaths attributable to obesity in the United States was 280,184 (range, 236,111-341,153). Hazard ratios also were calculated from data for nonsmokers or never-smokers only. When these HRs were applied to the entire population (assuming the HR applied to all individuals), the mean estimate for obesity-attributable death was 324,940 (range, 262,541-383,410).

Annual Deaths Attributable to Obesity in the United States | Obesity | JAMA | JAMA Network

325 THOUSAND deaths!  And he wants to go after smith and wesson rather than burgers and fries.  Where's the outcry? Where's the call to ban burgers!?!? Why isn't asking "do you want that supersized" considered attempted murder?

More people died in car accidents as well. How's that "Car culture" working out for you? Ban cars!!

At the end of the day it's completely hypocritical. We're supposed to think Deaths from one source or tool is horrible while it's perfectly fine from another source or tool.

You reduce homicides by convincing people not to commit homicide, not by taking away one of the possible tools they could use

[Dougie93]

6 hours ago, blackbird said:

"

48,000

In 2022, there were more than 48,000 firearm-related deaths in the United States, which averages to about 132 people dying from a firearm-related injury each day. The U.S. is the only high-income country with such a high death toll from gun violence."

58, 220 Americans died in the Vietnam War.  So nearly as many Americans are killed by people with guns in America every year.

So how's that working for you?  There are more guns owned privately than the population of the U.S.   But the MAGA gang have their "gun rights".

 

anti-freedom hysteria straight out of the Liberal Party of Canada playbook,

the extreme majority of persons shot in America is due to them involving themselves in gang related activity,

this sort of dangerous lifestyle will get you shot dead in Canada too,

furthermore,  48,000 is only 0.014% of the American population,

roughly the same number of Americans killed in car accidents,

so considering those odds, I wouldn't give up driving, and I'd rather have American gun rights,

to include a Castle Doctrine on one's property, and no duty to retreat in the face of mortal peril

these were actually British gun rights once, in the Bill of Rights 1690,

yet only the Americans defend & uphold that Protestant Enlightenment now

Edited March 5 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

On 3/4/2025 at 1:25 AM, Moonlight Graham said:

The British empire died in WWII, before you were born.  Get over it.

Like all the Brits who move to Canada thinking we're still part of the UK, I tell them the facts and watch them cry about it.  Want a hanky?

don't cry for me, Argentina North,

I simply carry on being British North American without you,

Post National State Multiculturalism FTW

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The vast majority of those deaths you mentioned our crime related.

Actually that is false.

"Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics reported 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were suicides.^[5][6]

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

Over half were suicides by guns.

When there are more guns than citizens in the U.S. and everyone can get them so easily, of course there will be massive numbers of gun deaths, whether it is suicide, crime or accidental shooting.  There are many guns not properly locked up and young kids sometimes get their hands on them and shoot someone.

Guns are a deadly weapon.  Of course it requires a human to pull the trigger, but the easy availability and massive numbers of guns in society results in tens of thousands of deaths.  It is nonsensical to claim guns don't kill people; people kill people.  The truth is people with guns kill people.

I knew a Canadian guy who decided to give up his union job in a large company to move to Las Vegas to live because he wanted to be able to carry a gun for self-defence.  Insanity. 

Edited March 5 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

the extreme majority of persons shot in America is due to them involving themselves in gang related activity,

That is false.  Look on wikipedia.  The majority of gun deaths are by suicide using guns.  Out of 48,000 deaths in one year by guns, roughly 24,000 were suicides.  That is the majority.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That is false.  Look on wikipedia.  The majority of gun deaths are by suicide using guns.  Out of 48,000 deaths in one year by guns, roughly 24,000 were suicides.  That is the majority.

no man nor office between you and the Almighty,

it is not for the state to decide when or if you choose to meet your Maker by your own hand,

Godspeed to the foot of the Lord ;

 

[Dougie93]

34 minutes ago, blackbird said:

  Out of 48,000 deaths in one year by guns, roughly 24,000 were suicides.  That is the majority.

thus statistically, the number of Americans shot to death other than by their own hand,

is 0.007%

for American freedom, the Declaration of Independence preamble,

that is small price to pay,

the land of the free must be the home of the brave,

Onward Christian Soldiers ; with no fears on earth

sic itur ad astra excelsior

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Guns are a deadly weapon.  Of course it requires a human to pull the trigger, but the easy availability and massive numbers of guns in society results in tens of thousands of deaths.  It is nonsensical to claim guns don't kill people; people kill people.  The truth is people with guns kill people.

I knew a Canadian guy who decided to give up his union job in a large company to move to Las Vegas to live because he wanted to be able to carry a gun for self-defence.  Insanity. 

what the heck kind of Liberal Party of Canada lunatic leftist have you become ?

apparently you're only good for thumping the Bible self righteously,

but in terms of actually living as a Protestant without fears on earth, 

with no man nor office between you and the Nazarene ; not so much

[blackbird]

25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

apparently you're only good for thumping the Bible self righteously,

but in terms of actually living as a Protestant without fears on earth, 

 You come across as more of a fanatical far right guy in some kind of physical war.  Everyone can see it all as BS.

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 You come across as more of a fanatical far right guy in some kind of physical war. 

the right is towards God Himself,

His Majesty The King as Defender of the Faith therein,

I did my time in the trenches, I took the Queen's Schilling from Elizabeth Windsor,

but at my age now, this is mostly a spiritual war,

against the encroachment of a ludicrous godless atheist socialist nanny police state upon my neck,

pardon me for defending & upholding with alacrity,

my Ulster Scots Protestant God given rights to speech, arms & property therein,

by the Bill of Rights 1690, founded upon the bloody banks of the Boyne; no surrender

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

what the heck kind of Liberal Party of Canada lunatic leftist have you become ?

apparently you're only good for thumping the Bible self righteously,

but in terms of actually living as a Protestant without fears on earth, 

with no man nor office between you and the Nazarene ; not so much

You have serious mental problems.  Just because I don't agree with what Trump's doing and don't agree with the gun culture that kills 48,000 Americans a year, you call me despicable names and make false allegations.

You need to repent and get on your knees and pray for forgiveness.  Do you really believe the Bible or do you believe one must believe in Trump and the gun culture and all that kind of thing.  

I have met enough people who are all talk and never listen.

[Dougie93]

8 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You have serious mental problems.  Just because I don't agree with what Trump's doing and don't agree with the gun culture that kills 48,000 Americans a year, you call me despicable names and make false allegations.

You need to repent and get on your knees and pray for forgiveness.  Do you really believe the Bible or do you believe one must believe in Trump and the gun culture and all that kind of thing.  

I have met enough people who are all talk and never listen.

other than thumping the bible self righteously,

you political views entirely comport with those of the godless atheist socialist Liberal Party of Canada,

don't blame me for simply noticing the cognitive dissonance therein.

[blackbird]

12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

other than thumping the bible self righteously,

You are a false accuser.  I know what I believe and I believe what I quote in the Bible is true.  I am cleansed by the blood of Christ.  Nothing else need be said.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 3/5/2025 at 2:51 PM, Dougie93 said:

don't cry for me, Argentina North,

I simply carry on being British North American without you,

Post National State Multiculturalism FTW

British North America hasn't existed as a legal administrative entity since 1907 lol.

[Dougie93]

5 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

British North America hasn't existed as a legal administrative entity since 1907 lol.

the British North American identity is simply for those who ;

view Canada as being founded upon the Plains of Abraham on 13 September 1759,

leading to the British North America Act 1867 as the rightful constitution of HM Dominion of Canada,

with the Red Ensign as the true colours, and the Maple Leaf Forever as the proper anthem,

while the Canada Act 1982 replacement has simply turned out to be the Liberal Party of Canada Act,

under a Liberal Party of Canada flag, singing the French Liberal Party of Canada song,

serving as a vehicle for the Liberal Party of Canada to impose a radical leftist ideology,

resulting in a Post National State with no core identity, indicting itself for "Genocide by the UN definition",

deliberately dismantling its own armed forces in the name of socialist pacifism therein.

a British North American chooses to remain Loyalist & Royalist, by the actual terms of the oath of allegiance,

rather than submit to some bastardized fake country People's Republic run by leftists kooks,

Edited March 7 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

On 3/5/2025 at 6:59 PM, blackbird said:

 Do you really believe the Bible or do you believe one must believe in Trump

what makes you think I believe in Donald Trump ?

I have never endorsed Donald Trump and I did not vote for him,

I am old enough to remember Donald Trump from the late 1970's,

so I am fully aware that he is a Carnival Barker Con Man,

I didn't put Donald Trump in power,

it was the Neoliberal elites who did that,  when they went radically far left, leaving the electorate behind,

I simply view Donald Trump as being a catalyst for change, a forcing mechanism to upset the status quo,

and I embrace the opportunities which arise in these times of chaos therein,

[Dougie93]

On 3/5/2025 at 6:59 PM, blackbird said:

and the gun culture and all that kind of thing. 

tho I am expert in the tactical employment of firearms to a professional military standard,

I don't find shooting in of itself to be particularity interesting,

I simply find Canadian gun laws to be utterly ludicrous, ineffective and fundamentally unjust therein,

in the face of that I advocate for the British right to bear arms from the English Bill of Rights 1690,

wherein de jure "gun control" is precluded from becoming the de facto gun prohibition as is the case now

[Dougie93]

On 3/5/2025 at 6:59 PM, blackbird said:

You need to repent and get on your knees and pray for forgiveness.

why would the Nazarene condemn me,

simply for saying that godless atheist socialist Canada is getting its rightful comeuppance all of a sudden, 

after decades of worshipping said false idolatry ?