robosmith Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 (edited) This is what you MAGA CULT voted for: 🤮 Center on Budget and Policy Priorities House Republican Budget Takes Away Health Care, Food Aid to Pay for Expanded Tax Cuts for Wealthy In a party line vote, the Republican-controlled House Budget Committee advanced their budget resolution to move forward legislation that... . 4 days ago Time Magazine House Budget Vote Leaves Republicans With 2 Bad Options: Angry Voters or Angry Trump Republicans can face angry voters or a furious Trump. Says one Trump ally: “Rude protesters at town halls are a lot easier than primaries.” . 10 hours ago Truthout GOP Votes to Advance Budget That Slashes Food Benefits, Medicaid for Millions Proposed SNAP cuts would potentially take benefits from more than 9 million low-income people in an average month. Starving children and medical bankruptcies. 🤮 Edited February 26 by robosmith Quote
robosmith Posted February 26 Author Report Posted February 26 The House bill will cut $880B from Medicaid to give 1%ers a $4T tax cut AND also increase the debt by $4T more. Just another step in Trump's plot to destroy the country. 🤮 3 Quote
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 There are no "cuts" to Medicaid spending. What there is, is a reduction in growth of spending every year. Just because Democrats increased spending more than we have ever seen and Republicans reduce it, is not a cut nor a call for panic. Also, the tax cuts were across the board rate cuts that helped the vast majority of people, not just the rich. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 1 hour ago, User said: There are no "cuts" to Medicaid spending. What there is, is a reduction in growth of spending every year. Just because Democrats increased spending more than we have ever seen and Republicans reduce it, is not a cut nor a call for panic. Also, the tax cuts were across the board rate cuts that helped the vast majority of people, not just the rich. Meh... @robosmith is lying...still. Ya have to wonder how much respect people who know him, can possibly have for him. I mean...I have none. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 2 hours ago, User said: Also, the tax cuts were across the board rate cuts that helped the vast majority of people, not just the rich. Sure, but Buffet will get a lot more help than any kids working at Wendy's. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Deluge Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 13 hours ago, robosmith said: This is what you MAGA CULT voted for: 🤮 Center on Budget and Policy Priorities House Republican Budget Takes Away Health Care, Food Aid to Pay for Expanded Tax Cuts for Wealthy In a party line vote, the Republican-controlled House Budget Committee advanced their budget resolution to move forward legislation that... . 4 days ago Time Magazine House Budget Vote Leaves Republicans With 2 Bad Options: Angry Voters or Angry Trump Republicans can face angry voters or a furious Trump. Says one Trump ally: “Rude protesters at town halls are a lot easier than primaries.” . 10 hours ago Truthout GOP Votes to Advance Budget That Slashes Food Benefits, Medicaid for Millions Proposed SNAP cuts would potentially take benefits from more than 9 million low-income people in an average month. Starving children and medical bankruptcies. 🤮 The fraud, waste and abuse is over, comrade. Get over it. 26 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Meh... @robosmith is lying...still. Ya have to wonder how much respect people who know him, can possibly have for him. I mean...I have none. I'm sure he's a squirrelly f*ck in real life. Probably just keeps to himself and rats on colleagues. 1 Quote
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, but Buffet will get a lot more help than any kids working at Wendy's. LOL, you have no idea how incredibly ignorant this comment is and what a self-own it is either. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 2 hours ago, User said: There are no "cuts" to Medicaid spending. What there is, is a reduction in growth of spending every year. We see this game played in Canada constantly. If they reduce growth they call it a cut. For years the liberals made actual cuts in healthcare spending and prime minister harper agreed to a 6% per year increase which was way above inflation in order to catch up and bring the provinces back up to where they should be. That went on for like 7 years and then he said now that we're there and you guys are caught up we're going to reduce it to 3% which is still ahead of inflation. And all the papers wrote about was how he was cutting Healthcare by 3%. You still get the odd tard today claiming that he cut Healthcare spending when in fact he increased it more than any other prime minister in the previous 30 years or so and he did so during the great recession. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 Just now, User said: LOL, you have no idea how incredibly ignorant this comment is and what a self-own it is either. You're perfectly free to make an incredibly intelligent comment about it so have at it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 (edited) 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, but Buffet will get a lot more help than any kids working at Wendy's. The richest always benefit the most from a tax break because they already pay vastly more taxes. This is really long and there's no pictures but do your best to read it The Parable of 10 men in a bar Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59. So, that’s what they decided to do. The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. ‘Since you are all such good customers,’ he said, ‘I’m going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by $20.’ Drinks for the ten now cost just $80. The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men – the paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his ‘fair share?’ They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody’s share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay. And so: The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100%savings). The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings). The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings). The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings). The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings). The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings). Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. ‘I only got a dollar out of the $20,’ declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man, ‘but he got $10!’ ‘Yeah, that’s right,’ exclaimed the fifth man. ‘I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than I got!’ ‘That’s true!!’ shouted the seventh man. ‘Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!’ ‘Wait a minute,’ yelled the first four men in unison. ‘We didn’t get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!’ The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night the tenth man didn’t show up for drinks so the nine sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn’t have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill! And that, ladies and gentlemen, politicians, journalists and think tank professors, is how our tax system works!! The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier. Edited February 26 by CdnFox 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 2 hours ago, User said: There are no "cuts" to Medicaid spending. What there is, is a reduction in growth of spending every year Has there been a corresponding reduction in the numbers of people who need healthcare? Did America's population shrink or did it just get healthier? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Has there been a corresponding reduction in the numbers of people who need healthcare? Did America's population shrink or did it just get healthier? So if they're increasing the spending, why would the population need to shrink in order for it to be effective? look, we all know and accept that you're dumb. But I think we'd all really appreciate it if you could try harder not to be so obvious just so that we felt like we were having an intelligent conversation with you once in a blue moon 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The richest always benefit the most from a tax break because they already pay vastly more taxes. The richest always benefit because the economy is rigged in their favour. But don't take my word for it go ask Warren Buffet. 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So if they're increasing the spending, Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 (edited) 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: The richest always benefit because the economy is rigged in their favour. If that's true how did they get rich? The vast majority of rich people didn't start off rich. but the fact that it's rigged in their favor certainly does explain why the top 1% pays about 50 some odd percent of the taxes. Oh.... wait..... Edited February 26 by CdnFox Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 19 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're perfectly free to make an incredibly intelligent comment about it so have at it. I know. Thanks. 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: Has there been a corresponding reduction in the numbers of people who need healthcare? Did America's population shrink or did it just get healthier? You should ask your questions to someone who cares enough to answer them. Quote
robosmith Posted February 26 Author Report Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Meh... @robosmith is lying...still. Ya have to wonder how much respect people who know him, can possibly have for him. I mean...I have none. Just cause you don't understand that THERE ARE cuts to Medicaid when adjusted for inflation, does NOT mean I am lying. NHE Fact Sheet Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services | CMS (.gov) https://www.cms.gov › national-health-expenditure-data Dec 18, 2024 — Medicare spending grew 8.1% to $1,029.8 billion in 2023, or 21 percent of total NHE. Medicaid spending grew 7.9% to $871.7 billion in 2023 ... Missing: adjusted | Show results with: adjusted In FACT Medicaid funding IS being cut, if this bill is signed into law. And because of YOUR FAILURE to understand, I have no respect for your BANKRUPTCY. Edited February 26 by robosmith Quote
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 Just now, robosmith said: Just cause you don't understand that THERE ARE cuts to Medicaid when adjusted for inflation, does NOT mean I am lying. In FACT Medicaid funding IS being cut, if this bill is signed into law. And because of YOUR FAILURE to understand, I have no respect for your BANKRUPTCY. OK, show us the math you are using then. Not regurgitated headlines. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 26 Author Report Posted February 26 34 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're perfectly free to make an incredibly intelligent comment about it so have at it. Free but NOT ABLE. LMAO 1 Quote
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Free but NOT ABLE. LMAO Says the guy hiding from me. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 26 Author Report Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, User said: OK, show us the math you are using then. Not regurgitated headlines. Because you don't know about inflation? LMAO NHE Fact Sheet Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services | CMS (.gov) https://www.cms.gov › national-health-expenditure-data Dec 18, 2024 — Medicare spending grew 8.1% to $1,029.8 billion in 2023, or 21 percent of total NHE. Medicaid spending grew 7.9% to $871.7 billion in 2023 ... Missing: adjusted | Show results with: adjusted Quote
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Because you don't know about inflation? LMAO So... you regurgitate a headline. I understand inflation just fine. So, show us the inflation numbers you are using over the next 10 years to claim Medicaid cuts do not keep up with this? Quote
Nationalist Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 47 minutes ago, robosmith said: Just cause you don't understand that THERE ARE cuts to Medicaid when adjusted for inflation, does NOT mean I am lying. NHE Fact Sheet Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services | CMS (.gov) https://www.cms.gov › national-health-expenditure-data Dec 18, 2024 — Medicare spending grew 8.1% to $1,029.8 billion in 2023, or 21 percent of total NHE. Medicaid spending grew 7.9% to $871.7 billion in 2023 ... Missing: adjusted | Show results with: adjusted In FACT Medicaid funding IS being cut, if this bill is signed into law. And because of YOUR FAILURE to understand, I have no respect for your BANKRUPTCY. You're full of sh1t. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 1 hour ago, User said: You should ask your questions to someone who cares enough to answer them. Do you have any government departments left who can answer that? That is where you'd go with a question like that isn't it? It's your country, that's why I asked you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 26 Report Posted February 26 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Do you have any government departments left who can answer that? That is where you'd go with a question like that isn't it? You should ask your questions to someone who cares enough to answer them. Quote
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