robosmith Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 In another DICK-TATOR MOVE, Trump Expected to Take Control of the USPS. I told everyone here, he WOULD NOT STOP AFTER DAY ONE. Seems like a clear violation of the Constitution which designates the USPS is an INDEPENDENT AGENCY. Trump Expected to Take Control of USPS, Fire Postal Board U.S. News & World Report https://www.usnews.com › News › Top News 4 hours ago — (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and absorb the independent mail ... Statement of APWU President Mark Dimondstein on ... American Postal Workers Union https://apwu.org › news › statement-apwu-president-ma... 32 minutes ago — The Washington Post has reported that the Trump Administration will soon issue an Executive Order firing the Postal Board of Governors, ... Trump Is Planning to Take Control of the Postal Service, ... WSJ https://www.wsj.com › Politics › Policy 1 hour ago — President seeks to disband governing board and put Postal Service under the Commerce Department. Of course Trump HATES mail in voting, so if he succeeds he is likely to destroy mail in voting to cement his dictatorship. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 2 hours ago, robosmith said: In another DICK-TATOR MOVE, Trump Expected to Take Control of the USPS. I told everyone here, he WOULD NOT STOP AFTER DAY ONE. Seems like a clear violation of the Constitution which designates the USPS is an INDEPENDENT AGENCY. Trump Expected to Take Control of USPS, Fire Postal Board U.S. News & World Report https://www.usnews.com › News › Top News 4 hours ago — (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and absorb the independent mail ... Statement of APWU President Mark Dimondstein on ... American Postal Workers Union https://apwu.org › news › statement-apwu-president-ma... 32 minutes ago — The Washington Post has reported that the Trump Administration will soon issue an Executive Order firing the Postal Board of Governors, ... Trump Is Planning to Take Control of the Postal Service, ... WSJ https://www.wsj.com › Politics › Policy 1 hour ago — President seeks to disband governing board and put Postal Service under the Commerce Department. Of course Trump HATES mail in voting, so if he succeeds he is likely to destroy mail in voting to cement his dictatorship. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 The very fact that you admit that destroying mail-in voting would improve the republicans chances is proof that america should probably stop mail-in voting Seriously, if you didn't think mail and boating was being used against the republicans you wouldn't think that it mattered one way or another. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 Oh this is perfect. The Democrats use the mail service to rig elections, so Trump takes control of the mail service. I don't know if he will or even if he can but, the mere rumor will drive the Libbies further out of their minds. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 @robosmith didn't even read his own links. Quote ...and placing the United States Postal Service under the control of the Commerce Department. The commerce department is part of the executive branch, but so is the USPS. Quote The United States Postal Service (USPS), also known as the Post Office, U.S. Mail, or simply the Postal Service, is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States federal government responsible for providing postal service in the United States, its insular areas and associated states. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service All that changed is that the leadership of the Commerce Department is the leadership of the USPS as well. Also, all those stories are based on a single source...WaPo. Doesn't he tell us WaPo is an unacceptable source? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 10 hours ago, robosmith said: In another DICK-TATOR MOVE, Trump Expected to Take Control of the USPS. I told everyone here, he WOULD NOT STOP AFTER DAY ONE. Seems like a clear violation of the Constitution which designates the USPS is an INDEPENDENT AGENCY. Trump Expected to Take Control of USPS, Fire Postal Board U.S. News & World Report https://www.usnews.com › News › Top News 4 hours ago — (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and absorb the independent mail ... Statement of APWU President Mark Dimondstein on ... American Postal Workers Union https://apwu.org › news › statement-apwu-president-ma... 32 minutes ago — The Washington Post has reported that the Trump Administration will soon issue an Executive Order firing the Postal Board of Governors, ... Trump Is Planning to Take Control of the Postal Service, ... WSJ https://www.wsj.com › Politics › Policy 1 hour ago — President seeks to disband governing board and put Postal Service under the Commerce Department. Of course Trump HATES mail in voting, so if he succeeds he is likely to destroy mail in voting to cement his dictatorship. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 You love government overreach and authoritarianism, robomarx, so I don't see why you're crying. 2 Quote
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 11 hours ago, robosmith said: In another DICK-TATOR MOVE, Trump Expected to Take Control of the USPS. I told everyone here, he WOULD NOT STOP AFTER DAY ONE. Seems like a clear violation of the Constitution which designates the USPS is an INDEPENDENT AGENCY. Trump Expected to Take Control of USPS, Fire Postal Board U.S. News & World Report https://www.usnews.com › News › Top News 4 hours ago — (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is preparing to dissolve the leadership of the U.S. Postal Service and absorb the independent mail ... Statement of APWU President Mark Dimondstein on ... American Postal Workers Union https://apwu.org › news › statement-apwu-president-ma... 32 minutes ago — The Washington Post has reported that the Trump Administration will soon issue an Executive Order firing the Postal Board of Governors, ... Trump Is Planning to Take Control of the Postal Service, ... WSJ https://www.wsj.com › Politics › Policy 1 hour ago — President seeks to disband governing board and put Postal Service under the Commerce Department. Of course Trump HATES mail in voting, so if he succeeds he is likely to destroy mail in voting to cement his dictatorship. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Don't worry robo you will still be able to post here just like a dictater. You can use this...... 3 Quote
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 13 hours ago, robosmith said: Of course Trump HATES mail in voting, so if he succeeds he is likely to destroy mail in voting to cement his dictatorship. 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Mail in voting is rather less secure than in person voting. More room for cheating. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, ironstone said: Mail in voting is rather less secure than in person voting. More room for cheating. Prove it. Oregon has been vote by mail only, since 1995 Updated findings show nearly 1260 possible noncitizens ... Oregon Public Broadcasting - OPB https://www.opb.org › article › 2024/09/23 › voter-regi... Sep 23, 2024 — They stress the issue will not be a factor in this year's election. FILE - ... Ten people on the list cast votes. Here's how Oregon handles election security KGW https://www.kgw.com › article › news › politics › elections Oct 31, 2022 — How do election workers handle ballots securely and prevent fraud? We got answers from an expert, Multnomah County Director of Elections Tim ... Myths and Misconceptions - Marion County Oregon Marion County Oregon https://www.co.marion.or.us › elections › Pages › Myths There are many myths, urban legends, and misconceptions around elections that can cause fear and confusion. Quote
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 2 hours ago, Legato said: Don't worry robo you will still be able to post here just like a dictater. You can use this...... Your TROLLING is going to put you on my ignore list. You're not ever clever. 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Your TROLLING is going to put you on my ignore list. You're not ever clever. Before anyone would ever believe that you will need to show evidence of the above act, in triplicate, and observing Booleans distributive law. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 Just now, Legato said: Before anyone would ever believe that you will need to show evidence of the above act, in triplicate, and observing Booleans distributive law. Everyone can see your never ending TROLLING. AKA much more than triplicate. Quote
Legato Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Everyone can see your never ending TROLLING. AKA much more than triplicate. Bad logic, that's Booleans associative law. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: Everyone can see your never ending TROLLING. AKA much more than triplicate. And now everyone can see you didn't put him on ignore. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Prove it. Oregon has been vote by mail only, since 1995 How can mail in ballots be as secure as in person voting where ID must be shown? I'm not saying do away with mail in voting altogether, just that it is not as secure as in person/with ID. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 23 minutes ago, ironstone said: How can mail in ballots be as secure as in person voting where ID must be shown? I'm not saying do away with mail in voting altogether, just that it is not as secure as in person/with ID. There are other problems with it that are more serious than just the id issue. If ballots are mailed out without being requested Then the ability of people to collect balance belong to other people and reply with them is substantial. It also allows for ballot harvesting where people go around and say to people they know they will happily fill out the ballot for them and drop it off because they're old or ill or something, and then they can fill it out however they like And unless you catch the person jumping the ballots into the mail it is extremely difficult to prove that this has happened after the fact. A number of people have been charged with this in the states, and there's been a fair bit written about the nature of this kind of fraud. For example: A2EF83A4432518602AEF848151F62909.california-report-summary.pdf Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 35 minutes ago, ironstone said: How can mail in ballots be as secure as in person voting where ID must be shown? I'm not saying do away with mail in voting altogether, just that it is not as secure as in person/with ID. Personal IDs do not give greater security. There is plenty of security without them. You've fallen for the bullshit spread by voter suppressionists. No voter ID requirements here in CA. We go to vote and sign the roll. If someone has signed in my place, I file a provisional ballot and they investigate which is valid. If someone tries to vote in my place after me, they will check my signature and if it matches my registration, they will turn that person away or maybe arrest them. They would need to be a very good and practiced signature forger to forge my signature if I didn't vote at all. The FACT is, it is very difficult to swing an election with personal identity fraud. When thousands of people are necessary to swing an election, it is almost impossible to keep that a secret. That's why the only organized fraud which is used these days involves dishonest poll workers. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Prove it. Oregon has been vote by mail only, since 1995 Updated findings show nearly 1260 possible noncitizens ... Oregon Public Broadcasting - OPB https://www.opb.org › article › 2024/09/23 › voter-regi... Sep 23, 2024 — They stress the issue will not be a factor in this year's election. FILE - ... Ten people on the list cast votes. Here's how Oregon handles election security KGW https://www.kgw.com › article › news › politics › elections Oct 31, 2022 — How do election workers handle ballots securely and prevent fraud? We got answers from an expert, Multnomah County Director of Elections Tim ... Myths and Misconceptions - Marion County Oregon Marion County Oregon https://www.co.marion.or.us › elections › Pages › Myths There are many myths, urban legends, and misconceptions around elections that can cause fear and confusion. Error and Fraud at Issue as Absentee Voting Rises When absentee ballots favored Republicans, libs hated it. Now they think it benefits them and they love it and it is completely infallible. Edited February 21 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 17 minutes ago, robosmith said: Personal IDs do not give greater security. They do. Quote There is plenty of security without them. There isn't. Quote No voter ID requirements here in CA. And people question the results all the time. Quote We go to vote and sign the roll. If someone has signed in my place, I file a provisional ballot and they investigate which is valid. If someone tries to vote in my place after me, they will check my signature and if it matches my registration, they will turn that person away or maybe arrest them. They would need to be a very good and practiced signature forger to forge my signature if I didn't vote at all. The FACT is, it is very difficult to swing an election with personal identity fraud. When thousands of people are necessary to swing an election, it is almost impossible to keep that a secret. That's why the only organized fraud which is used these days involves dishonest poll workers. It's harder with in-person voting but certainly not all that difficult. Having illegals vote for example is something that has happened and it's difficult to detect But with mail in voting it's very easy Which is why the democrats are upset that it might possibly be the case that they don't get that option anymore Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 22 minutes ago, robosmith said: No voter ID requirements here in CA. We go to vote and sign the roll. If someone has signed in my place, I file a provisional ballot and they investigate which is valid. If someone tries to vote in my place after me, they will check my signature and if it matches my registration, they will turn that person away or maybe arrest them. They would need to be a very good and practiced signature forger to forge my signature if I didn't vote at all. Yeah it's not like anyone has ever had their signature forged by someone else right? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 13 minutes ago, ironstone said: Yeah it's not like anyone has ever had their signature forged by someone else right? Well that's not even how they do it, they do it by falsely registering voters and the like and that certainly has been something that's been caught happening but is suspected of being very widespread. Many illegals have admitted to voting in elections. But absentee ballots (mail in) are by far and away the most exploited. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 39 minutes ago, ironstone said: Yeah it's not like anyone has ever had their signature forged by someone else right? Yeah it's not like anyone has ever made a fake ID, right? You're just dishonestly glossing over all the other factors. Like where did your master forger get the signature he's supposed to forge. And how many master forgers will it take to swing an election and keep that SECRET. Are you really that stupid, or just believe no one will see through your dishonesty? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: Yeah it's not like anyone has ever made a fake ID, right? You're just dishonestly glossing over all the other factors. Like where did your master forger get the signature he's supposed to forge. Why would he need one? He can make any old signature and they wouldn't know it wasn't yours Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ironstone Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Yeah it's not like anyone has ever made a fake ID, right? You're just dishonestly glossing over all the other factors. Like where did your master forger get the signature he's supposed to forge. And how many master forgers will it take to swing an election and keep that SECRET. Are you really that stupid, or just believe no one will see through your dishonesty? Have you ever been asked to provide ID for anything? If yes, how did you react? Did you start screaming and yelling in protest? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted February 21 Report Posted February 21 Just now, ironstone said: Have you ever been asked to provide ID for anything? If yes, how did you react? Did you start screaming and yelling in protest? Yes he did, and that poor 7-Eleven employee who man's the porn rack was emotionally traumatized and will never be the same 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 1 minute ago, ironstone said: Have you ever been asked to provide ID for anything? If yes, how did you react? Did you start screaming and yelling in protest? Nothing for which I had a RIGHT to do like VOTING. Plenty of voluntary services. You're still ignorantly making faulty "arguments." Quote
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