robosmith Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 4 hours ago, West said: China did not allow any western investigators in and allowed travel in and out of Wuhan. Duh Neither of which spread the virus in North America. That was Trump's super-spreaders and IGNORING common disease spread control measures. 🤮 Quote
West Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: Neither of which spread the virus in North America. That was Trump's super-spreaders and IGNORING common disease spread control measures. 🤮 The virus originated in CHINA and they allowed it to leave the country. They are ground zero for the Kung Flu. It was CHINA who was responsible..not Trump.. not the unvaxxed.. but CHINA. This is now PROVEN in a court of law. Quote
robosmith Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 29 minutes ago, West said: The virus originated in CHINA and they allowed it to leave the country. They are ground zero for the Kung Flu. It was CHINA who was responsible..not Trump.. not the unvaxxed.. but CHINA. This is now PROVEN in a court of law. Prove that China KNEW they "allowed it to leave the country." Are you so IGNORANT that you don't know when people DON'T have CONTROL over a brand new virus? By the time Trump caused his super-spreaders, EVERYONE knew about the COVID VIRUS. Duh Quote
eyeball Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: You can like trump and still think he's making a mistake somewhere along the line. I feel this would be a pretty major mistake. I mean what's next, piracy on the high seas where you seize Chinese vessels to make up for the fact that Chinese food is making Americans fat? Of course blaming China for COVID is ridiculous. But what about drug interdiction on the high seas that acknowledges the fact China is the largest source of fentanyl and methamphetamine precursors on the planet? A lot of Conservatives seem to prefer Canada make the mistake of swallowing Trump's northern border hooey and spend billions accommodating it. Unfortunately too many Liberals have also been too quick to jump through his hoops to accommodate it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
West Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 29 minutes ago, robosmith said: Prove that China KNEW they "allowed it to leave the country." Are you so IGNORANT that you don't know when people DON'T have CONTROL over a brand new virus? By the time Trump caused his super-spreaders, EVERYONE knew about the COVID VIRUS. Duh It's already been PROVEN that China is responsible for causing damage to Missouri. Duh Quote
robosmith Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 2 hours ago, West said: It's already been PROVEN that China is responsible for causing damage to Missouri. Duh Because a judge KNOWS the science involved? LMAO China didn't even present a defense, cause they won't be bound by that court's decision. Duh They know that for every property of theirs that is confiscated by Missouri, they will confiscate 10x. Quote
West Posted March 8 Author Report Posted March 8 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Because a judge KNOWS the science involved? LMAO China didn't even present a defense, cause they won't be bound by that court's decision. Duh They know that for every property of theirs that is confiscated by Missouri, they will confiscate 10x. You know more than the judge. Got it. Sad Quote
Barquentine Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 On 1/25/2025 at 1:48 AM, West said: Trump's pandemic response was proportionate Drink some bleach and shine a flashlight up your ass. Yeah, proportionate. The US has 10 times the population of Canada, which lost about 60,000 to Covid. So the US should have lost about 600,000. Instead they lost 1,200,000, 20 times as much. Thank Trump for that. 2 Quote
User Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Of course blaming China for COVID is ridiculous. Um... how about China lied to the world and covered up COVID for the first month. They silenced their doctors. They did not report to the WHO. They are 100% rightly to blame for their lies that led to the spread of COVID during the most critical first month of it spreading. Quote
User Posted March 8 Report Posted March 8 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Drink some bleach and shine a flashlight up your ass. Yeah, proportionate. The US has 10 times the population of Canada, which lost about 60,000 to Covid. So the US should have lost about 600,000. Instead they lost 1,200,000, 20 times as much. Thank Trump for that. First, you are repeating left-wing lies about what Trump said. Second, we can thank the left wing id1ots like those running New York that basically killed their old people when they ordered old folks homes to accept anyone. Trump is not responsible for all the stupid things states did. Trump is the one who pushed operation warp speed to get you guys the vaccines you forced people to take, so... you should be thanking Trump. Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, User said: Um... how about China lied to the world and covered up COVID for the first month. They silenced their doctors. They did not report to the WHO. They are 100% rightly to blame for their lies that led to the spread of COVID during the most critical first month of it spreading. They'll just blame Fauci and Big Pharma - plausible deniability. In the meantime China exports enough drugs into the US to kill over 4 billion Americans every year. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 minute ago, eyeball said: They'll just blame Fauci and Big Pharma - plausible deniability. In the meantime China exports enough drugs into the US to kill over 4 billion Americans every year. Why even bother responding if you are not even going to address the point. Yet again, you prove how worthless your contributions here are. Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 10 minutes ago, User said: Why even bother responding if you are not even going to address the point. Exactly what I wonder when all you ever do is run away. Meanwhile, COVID really is a nothing burger if you believe the multiplying drug war rhetoric of potential deaths your country attributes to fentanyl - to justify a declaration of economic war on the world over it no less. And it's true, China is definitely responsible for a lot more fentanyl coming into your country than COVID. Not to mention the amount of effort your country has put into blaming Fauci et al would definitely be an issue China would raise. If you're not careful you'll be the ones held responsible for causing the pandemic. Half your countrymen already believe it FFS. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 6 hours ago, eyeball said: Of course blaming China for COVID is ridiculous. No, that's quite reasonable. Only deniers like you pretend otherwise. But seizing property and assets without any kind of legal process just cuz you feel that's the case is beyond dangerous Quote But what about drug interdiction on the high seas that acknowledges the fact China is the largest source of fentanyl and methamphetamine precursors on the planet? What about it. Quote A lot of Conservatives seem to prefer Canada make the mistake of swallowing Trump's northern border hooey and spend billions accommodating it. A lot of imbeciles who smiled and laughed while hundreds of thousands have died in the fentanyl crisis while they played games with safe supply that just hooked another generation of high school students Don't seem to understand that whether trump is around or not us addressing Fentanyl as a criminal issue is a very good thing and patrolling and securing our borders might make trump happy but it also helps us fight gun smuggling into canada, which border people have been calling for for decades now (wow, maybe they're related to you ) So the truth is most conservatives recognize these things should happen whether or not trump is there. So they're happy to support it. Apparently you're in favor of Fentanyldrug use and criminal guns and certainly that's your right but I don't think you're going to be able to hold the moral High ground with that position Quote Unfortunately too many Liberals have also been too quick to jump through his hoops to accommodate it. Yes, it must have said you greatly as a leftist to see people saying that we should do something about illegal drugs Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So the truth is most conservatives recognize these things should happen whether or not trump is there. The real truth is that most conservatives have lost so much shit they can't think straight about anything - this started long before fentanyl, Trump or COVID ever showed up. Right-wingers made America a sitting duck for all three. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, West said: The virus originated in CHINA and they allowed it to leave the country. They are ground zero for the Kung Flu. It was CHINA who was responsible..not Trump.. not the unvaxxed.. but CHINA. This is now PROVEN in a court of law. So every westerner in China at the time should have been quarantined until the pandemic was over? Every westerner on a cruise making a port stop in China should have been quarantined until the pandemic was over? Edited March 9 by Aristides Quote
Barquentine Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 3 hours ago, User said: Trump is the one who pushed operation warp speed to get you guys the vaccines you forced people to take, so Yeah he did. I mentioned it in another post. But he didn't care enough to tell his MAGA sheep it would save them and their loved ones lives. Even though he took it himself. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: The real truth is that most conservatives have lost so much shit they can't think straight about anything - LOL Yeah that doesn't actually mean anything. I'm sure it sounded good in your head when you were talking it over with the voices but...... Quote this started long before fentanyl, Trump or COVID ever showed up. Sure, the discussion about fentanyl smuggling across the border definitely was a major hot topic long before fentanyl showed up. Sigh. You're so retarded. Border security was a very low priority issue and I was young. You didn't even really stop at the border you just came to a rolling stop and they yelled Canadian? And you said Yep! And kept on going. Fentanyl is an issue whether you like trump or not. It's something we should have been taking seriously and simply weren't and we should be doing it for our own sake never mind trump. Glad you're finally with the program. After all, it was the left-wing soft on drugs and safe supply nonsense that led to the huge amount of deaths we see today on both sides of the border Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 14 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sure, the discussion about fentanyl smuggling across the border definitely was a major hot topic long before fentanyl showed up. Sigh. You're so retarded. Sure kid, that's almost quoted word for word isn't it? You're such a pathetically predictable liar. LMAO! 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Border security was a very low priority issue and I was young. You didn't even really stop at the border you just came to a rolling stop and they yelled Canadian? And you said Yep! And kept on going. Yup, and I recall Canadian and American fishermen waving to one another and helping each other out on occasion. 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Glad you're finally with the program. After all, it was the left-wing soft on drugs and safe supply nonsense that led to the huge amount of deaths we see today on both sides of the border In reaction to the right-wings moral panic and insistence on waging endlessly hopeless wars against drugs - that only caused the market for drugs to get ever more dangerous and destabilizing over time. Medically, economically and geopolitically. Now it's helping drive the world to the precipice of a real war. Oh, and the fact governments allowed Purdue Pharma to produce and market opioids like tobacco companies did with cigarettes probably didn't help. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
robosmith Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 7 hours ago, West said: You know more than the judge. Got it. Sad I know that China did not present a defense, so they lost due to nolo contendere. Since you don't know what that means, it means the judge had no choice but to award damages to the sole party who presented their case. Duh Quote
robosmith Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure kid, that's almost quoted word for word isn't it? You're such a pathetically predictable liar. ^SPOT ON. Call him CdnLIAR and put him on ignore. Quote
West Posted March 9 Author Report Posted March 9 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: I know that China did not present a defense, so they lost due to nolo contendere. Since you don't know what that means, it means the judge had no choice but to award damages to the sole party who presented their case. Duh Ha. Wrong again. China LOST because they are responsible for spreading the Kung Flu 2 hours ago, Aristides said: So every westerner in China at the time should have been quarantined until the pandemic was over? Every westerner on a cruise making a port stop in China should have been quarantined until the pandemic was over? They should have done more including letting in an investigation team within the first few days of the outbreak. They didn't. Instead they covered it up and let it spread around the globe Quote
CdnFox Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure kid, that's almost quoted word for word isn't it? You're such a pathetically predictable liar. It is actually. I realize you actually tried to change the subject in their part way through but nobody bought it. Quote Yup, and I recall Canadian and American fishermen waving to one another and helping each other out on occasion. Did you mistake them for Hamas? Quote In reaction to the right-wings moral panic and insistence on waging endlessly hopeless wars against drugs - that only caused the market for drugs to get ever more dangerous and destabilizing over time. Medically, economically and geopolitically. Now it's helping drive the world to the precipice of a real war. Nope. It actually did reduce use. Which we can clearly see once it stopped and use skyrocketed. Medically economically and geopolitically and even morally it was a vastly superior solution. I'm open to other ideas, such as forced treatment and such which we have most of the laws we need in place for anyway, but everyone knew giving drugs for free to addicts was a bad idea and you killed a lot of people supporting that 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Oh, and the fact governments allowed Purdue Pharma to produce and market opioids like tobacco companies did with cigarettes probably didn't help. Right, the fact that the entire idea was bat crap crazy and failed exactly as predicted isn't the problem, the people who manufactured the drugs that the government bought for the program are the real problem here 🙄🙄 Sigh Well at least you didn't try to claim it was harper's fault. Quote
eyeball Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Nope. It actually did reduce use. Donkey-shit. The war on drugs has been an abject failure by every yardstick and study ever used to measure it's effectiveness. Trillions of dollars have been wasted and hundreds of thousands of lives lost. And now drug warriors are prepared to cause a global recession and likely worse pursuing their lost and losing agenda. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
robosmith Posted March 9 Report Posted March 9 1 hour ago, West said: Ha. Wrong again. China LOST because they are responsible for spreading the Kung Flu Ha. ^NO EVIDENCE, AGAIN. You don't know what you're yapping about as usual. Quote Missouri appealed, and once again, the Chinese defendants refused to appear, leaving the defense of their sovereignty to nominally independent amici. Say it with me: "NOLO CONTENDERE" is why Missouri won BY DEFAULT. Duh Quote
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