Army Guy Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Yes. Go look it up. So what, you say it's also reporting that climate change causes wildfires and you know that's wrong too. I bet the media told you that. They may not like them but they're inevitable....just not for at least a decade. That's what makes them unrealistic at the same moment in time we're also throwing out the only measure that works that's also happens the least expensive and harmful to the economy. That doesn't exactly inspire a lot of confidence these other options will be pursued very enthusiastically. I did look it up,2019, 2020 are the only two years that emissions have been reduced, all others have risen, Liberal carbon tax has yet to meet any of their set goals.... how is that possible if we are indeed reducing emissions...The carbon tax will not show any positive results until 2030...when consumers will pay up to 40 cents per liter more...up until then consumer behavior has not changed... yes the media, reporting what our government puts out there, in the liberals case they have lied more often than not....fossil fuel prices effect every product known to man, it travels on fossil fuel transport and those carriers do not soak up that cost becasue they like you, they pass it off to the consumer...me and you...so for every cent of tax on fuel, that is passed on to you and me....even a grade 0ne student can tell you everything is costing more... There are plenty of other options out there, that does not pass on those costs to the consumer....SMR are being built in NB as we speak...first on is going to be operational in 2028/ 29 time frame....thats just one example...for a guy that preaches climate change your not very well informed... Climate change is not Canadians first priority, when it comes to paying for it....2/3 of canadians have already said they don't support a carbon tax....nobody really believes climate change is going to be our downfall, no one believes it is a crisis...thanks to our liberal government....and their transparent way of running things....they failed and now today climate change will be put in the back closet until another day.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, eyeball said: You're not getting it. I'm getting it just fine. You're refusing to answer a question you demand that the conservatives do. Are you saying you don't consider action on climate change necessary? Why not? Quote
eyeball Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: ...for a guy that preaches climate change... WTF does this even mean? Have you heard the good news? Climate change will save your soul! 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Climate change is not Canadians first priority, when it comes to paying for it.... Well you want a salesman then not a preacher. Hey! There's a 50% off sale on climate change this week! 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I'm getting it just fine. You're refusing to answer a question you demand that the conservatives do. Are you saying you don't consider action on climate change necessary? Why not? Not a chance if I thought it was bullshit. What's your excuse for taking action? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Not a chance if I thought it was bullshit. What's your excuse for taking action? So you think climate change is bullshit? 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 19 hours ago, Legato said: We (as a retired couple) probably break even in the summer but lose badly in the winter (propane heating cost). . You and your "woman" look very relaxed in this pic. Hope you are enjoying youselves. Quote
Legato Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 23 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: You and your "woman" look very relaxed in this pic. Hope you are enjoying youselves. More clutter nonsense. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 14 Author Report Posted January 14 57 minutes ago, Legato said: More clutter nonsense. Now now. Don't make fun of his family photos. Quote
Legato Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Now now. Don't make fun of his family photos. Sorry Quote
Army Guy Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 16 hours ago, eyeball said: WTF does this even mean? Have you heard the good news? Climate change will save your soul! Well you want a salesman then not a preacher. Hey! There's a 50% off sale on climate change this week! Not a chance if I thought it was bullshit. What's your excuse for taking action? It means your talking into the wind, and nobody is listening....for the most part Canadians talk a good game, but most have even failed to do a even little to their own homes /cars/ etc...to improve their carbon footprint....and then when they look at how our government is dealing with the situation ....the whole deal is one big scam, the government is making money, it gets to collect another tax, without doing anything for it... I mean you give me 10 dollars i give you back 12 dollars and poof we are tackling climate change your happy , i 'm happy...only nobody is looking at the results , because nobody cares... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You and your "woman" look very relaxed in this pic. Hope you are enjoying youselves. WOW DUI first a problem with drinking and driving , now you have a problem with getting a girlfriend, that talks...on a positive note she must be a good listener... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: It means your talking into the wind, and nobody is listening.... No, it means when you say preach it's clear you've got old Church of AGW meme rattling around you're noggin along all the other shit decades and decades of listening to and regurgitating denial has polluted your thinking with. 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: I mean you give me 10 dollars i give you back 12 dollars and poof we are tackling climate change your happy , i 'm happy...only nobody is looking at the results , because nobody cares... Not tackling but chipping away at it. Canada's emissions went down in 2023 and 2024. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No, it means when you say preach it's clear you've got old Church of AGW meme rattling around you're noggin along all the other shit decades and decades of listening to and regurgitating denial has polluted your thinking with. Not tackling but chipping away at it. Canada's emissions went down in 2023 and 2024. In its annual emissions report, made public this morning, the Canadian Climate Institute said the country's emissions were cut by 0.8 per cent in 2023, to a total of 702 megatonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent. Under the Paris climate agreement, Canada committed to reducing its emissions by 2030 to 40 to 45 per cent less than what they were in 2005. Canada is down to 8.5 % of that goal, since 2015...and we are now in 2025 with still more 22.5 % to go at the very minimum...Your program is a huge failure.... https://www.cbc.ca/news/climate/canada-climate-institute-1.7327316 https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/12/19/emissions-in-canada-fell-last-year-though-still-far-off-paris-targets/ Edited January 15 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Canada is down to 8.5 % of that goal, since 2015...and we are now in 2025 with still more 22.5 % to go at the very minimum...Your program is a huge failure.... Denial has been a smashing success. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: Denial has been a smashing success. If you mean denial in the sense that liberals and people who claim to care about climate but clearly don't have denied that the carbon tax isn't working, have denied the financial damage they're doing, and have denied the idea that when people realize that it's not working and it's costing them a fortune that they're going to have a backlash and people won't want to deal with climate change then yes. You people were told this again and again. The carbon tax is doing nothing. We are not meeting our carbon goals nor are we even remotely coming close. If it hadn't been for covid we'd actually be up right now. Slowing economic activity is going to do more for us than the carbon tax ever did On top of that you were told that if you pursue that and keep trying to sell people on a bankrupt idea but they would be angry eventually and not want to do anything else You have 10 years to get it right and you got it wrong. It's great that you care. It's too bad you didn't care enough to actually fix it Quote
CdnFox Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 Federal Politics: Liberal Party Leadership - Leger v That was taken AFTER he resigned. That's what the liberals are facing right now. Those numbers would mean the liberals would win approximately 37 seats. That would be more devastating than even the ignatief defeat was. That would put them in third and they would be fairly close to the NDP for 4th so it's a toss up who would get what That's what any new leader has to contend with. There is no way that carney who has never won a campaign or even run a campaign is going to walk into that mess and do well. I don't think the liberals have anyone who could Quote
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: If you mean denial in the sense that liberals and people who claim to care about climate but clearly don't have denied that the carbon tax isn't working, have denied the financial damage they're doing, and have denied the idea that when people realize that it's not working and it's costing them a fortune that they're going to have a backlash and people won't want to deal with climate change then yes. No, that's not what I meant. 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You have 10 years to get it right and you got it wrong. It's great that you care. It's too bad you didn't care enough to actually fix it You get 5 years, if you're lucky. Good luck. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, that's not what I meant. Too bad, you were that close to being right Quote You get 5 years, if you're lucky. Good luck. 8 minimum and 12 would not surprise me. Then we'll see from there. remember that every 6 years the west gets more and more seats. Quote
eyeball Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said: 8 minimum and 12 would not surprise me. Then we'll see from there. The electorate will be way way to cranky for that if they don't see promised changes within a couple of years. You can already see that from here, best evidenced by those bleating its-way-worse-than-we-thought - a prelude to the apologetics to come. 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: remember that every 6 years the west gets more and more seats That's alright Canada seems to sprout more parties. One way or another our representation seems to lean towards proportionality no matter how beloved people are of FPTP Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 13 hours ago, eyeball said: The electorate will be way way to cranky for that if they don't see promised changes within a couple of years. They will see changes in improvements very quickly. As I've said Trudeau screwed things up so badly that basically if someone came in and just did nothing there would still be improvements. By the time Trudeau actually leaves which will be sometime in may now, people will not be able to afford rents, they won't be able to afford food properly, we will be in a trade war that will be plunging us into a recession because he sat and did nothing, none of our government services will be working properly, jobs will be getting scarce and good jobs even scarcer, our quality of life will be nose diving thanks to our plunging gDP per capita. And that's probably the good news Poilievre will get in and one way or another the trade war will end. It will probably end around that time whether he's in or not but he will get in and it will appear as though as he got in the trade war ended. He will cut immigration. It's already scheduled to be reduced, and he'll likely go a little farther than that. That will drastically impact rents in the short term, and also ease inflation and pricing for other areas. He will kill the carbon tax and probably jigger other taxes to entice business investment back. That'll take a couple years to pay off but it will pay off and the recovery from trudeau's recession will be strong. As long as things are moving in that direction even if they're not perfect people will be happy. 13 hours ago, eyeball said: That's alright Canada seems to sprout more parties. On the left it does. On the right not so much. On the left there's the libs, the dips and the greens but on the right only the cpc has seats (although many consider the bloc to be a center or center right party, but they're a special case and really only hurt the libs). So what will happen is the right will grow considerably stronger and the left will split the vote more and more and more. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 On 1/11/2025 at 5:17 PM, CdnFox said: But really freeland and carney aren't westerners, even tho freeland was born there. Clark is but she just shot herself in the foot friday so we'll see if she even runs now The same can be said about Pierre Poilievre. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 57 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: The same can be said about Pierre Poilievre. No, the opposite is said about Poilievre. He wasn't born in the west but is very much a Westerner having been raised and educated there. His wife could be called an easterner tho she wasn't born there either i believe. I'm pretty sure she immigrated with her family. Too lazy to look it up and double check but i'm pretty sure. 1 Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted January 16 Report Posted January 16 (edited) I took the lazy way out and looked it up on Wikipedia. I discourage using Wikipedia, but, Hypocrisy, thy name is Mandy. However Wikip. says "Poilievre was born in Calgary, Alberta." I don't put much stock in the veracity of Wikipedia. Edited January 16 by Queenmandy85 Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 Mark Carney is the Liberal frontrunner to replace Trudeau, but most Canadians don’t recognize him | Canada | The Guardian Polling this month by Abacus Data found that when shown a picture of Carney, 76% of Canadians could not identify him. Chrystia Freeland, the former finance minister, who is seen as Carney’s main competitor, fared much better: 51% recognized her when shown a photo. This is going to be a major problem for him. They keep referring to him as a "Rockstar banker "but the reality is absolutely nobody knows who he is and most people don't think of bankers as being rock stars in their world. In fact it will take all of 6 seconds to portray this guy as someone who represents the wealth and interests of the elite rich. Which means people will either not know about him or if they do know about him it will be for the wrong reasons. Given time he might be able to change that, but he's going to get a one month leadership race followed immediately by an electric with no time to really introduce himself to Canadians. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said: I took the lazy way out and looked it up on Wikipedia. I discourage using Wikipedia, but, Hypocrisy, thy name is Mandy. However Wikip. says "Poilievre was born in Calgary, Alberta." It does not say if he is a skier. Above all attributes, that is the second most important to me. LOL well fair enough. I knew he was adopted to a french family in Calgary but i thought he was originally born somewhere else. I have no data on the skiing. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 16 Author Report Posted January 16 Looks like justin won't be running at all in the next election (1) Justin Trudeau won’t run for re-election as MP in next federal election | Globalnews.ca Quote
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