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9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

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I see we have reduced you to posting comics now. You can't seem to defend any of your positions with a good argument. 

That is how this goes. 

Kids die, you guys use their dead bodies for cheap political theater, and nothing changes. 

 

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Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, User said:

I see we have reduced you to posting comics now. You can't seem to defend any of your positions with a good argument. 

That is how this goes. 

Kids die, you guys use their dead bodies for cheap political theater, and nothing changes. 

 

The truth hurts I see. Your country is the only one watching its kids die while refusing to do anything about it.

 

But no doubt we will see Trump spend billions to treat people with mental health issues to protect your kids so you don't have to change anything.🤣

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Posted
23 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

According to @User, far more children are butchered, and have their genitals forcefully removed. So I guess we should feel ashamed of even bringing the issue with children being murdered in school shootings up, when thousands of children are being tortured by bloodthirsty Trans people.

WTF are you talking about?

Posted
1 hour ago, Aristides said:

The truth hurts I see. Your country is the only one watching its kids die while refusing to do anything about it.

no, we see it up here too. Under the liberal rule children and adult mortality due to Crime has skyrocketed while liberals collect guns from lawful owners and ignore the criminals. Sadly that's your country You and your leftie friends are quite content to sit and watch kids die rather than address real issues it would seem. 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
Just now, CdnFox said:

no, we see it up here too. Under the liberal rule children and adult mortality due to Crime has skyrocketed while liberals collect guns from lawful owners and ignore the criminals. Sadly that's your country You and your leftie friends are quite content to sit and watch kids die rather than address real issues it would seem. 

It has not changed that much. in fact for the year 2023, 1.94 per 100,000 people in Canada were homicide victims. In comparison, 7.5 per 100,000 Americans were victims of homicide. 

source: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=3510006801

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

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Posted
1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

It has not changed that much.

It has gone up. Once again you've kind of proven my point. And rather than deal with it and looking at addressing it we see the liberals going for gun control against lawful law-abiding citizens

Which is exactly what I say, we see it up here as well as in the states

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in fact for the year 2023, 1.94 per 100,000 people in Canada were homicide victims. In comparison, 7.5 per 100,000 Americans were victims of homicide. 

Doesn't matter in the slightest. Nobody compared to the US to Canada as far as rates go I just said it was going up in Canada and that liberals are refusing to have a serious conversation about what the problem is and instead of going after gun owners while it continues to rise

By the way here's a little chart of that not going up much thing. This is violent crime in Canada.  Do you remember anything happening in 2015?  Wasn't there an election? :) 

Canada: violent crime rate 2023 | Statista

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oh and here's the homicide rate

Homicide rate in Canada 2023 | Statista

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hmmmm..  Things changed after 2015 again..... 

And most  of that violence is being directed at children rather than adults

Children and Youth as Victims of Violent Crime - National Victims of Crime Awareness Week

 

Liberals in Canada are watching the crime and death rates Climb and doing nothing except attacking lawful gun owners which doesn't do a thing.

So it would seem that the problem on both sides of the border are not the conservatives. You'll have to look in a mirror to see the problem

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

 

 

Liberals in Canada are watching the crime and death rates Climb and doing nothing except attacking lawful gun owners which doesn't do a thing.

So it would seem that the problem on both sides of the border are not the conservatives. You'll have to look in a mirror to see the problem

I agree that further restricting guns has not done anything to reduce crime. I was appalled when, in the aftermath of the Nova Scotia massacre in 2020, the Liberal government further restricted access to legal firearms, even though it was prevent that the perpetrator of the Nova Scotia massacre, had obtained his firearms illegally through the US. 

Posted
11 hours ago, Aristides said:

The truth hurts I see. Your country is the only one watching its kids die while refusing to do anything about it.

Nope, we have people like you posting comics. That will save the kids!

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, User said:

Nope, we have people like you posting comics. That will save the kids!

Yup, it does hurt. Looking forward to Trump's massive increase in mental health spending.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Yup, it does hurt. Looking forward to Trump's massive increase in mental health spending.

Don't worry. Your magical gun-free zones will protect them!

Maybe if we had bigger signs that said no guns allowed. Then the bad guys would see them and not bring guns inside!

Yeah, that will save the kids!

 

 

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, User said:

Don't worry. Your magical gun-free zones will protect them!

Maybe if we had bigger signs that said no guns allowed. Then the bad guys would see them and not bring guns inside!

Yeah, that will save the kids!

Maybe you should be asking why you need schools full of guns. I think that cartoon is spot on and obviously hit a sore point.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Maybe you should be asking why you need schools full of guns. I think that cartoon is spot on and obviously hit a sore point.

We don't need a school full of guns. We just need bigger signs! 

Clearly the bad guys missed them. 

 

 

Posted
21 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Like your fake outrage over dead school kids. 

You are the one on here with the fake outrage. You are standing on top of dead kids bodies to score cheap political points. 

 

 

 

Posted
10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

I agree that further restricting guns has not done anything to reduce crime. I was appalled when, in the aftermath of the Nova Scotia massacre in 2020, the Liberal government further restricted access to legal firearms, even though it was prevent that the perpetrator of the Nova Scotia massacre, had obtained his firearms illegally through the US. 

Yeah. Same with the mayerthorpe killer 

So at some point what needs to happen is that everyone needs to put the politics aside and take a real look at not just "gun" violence or "knife" violence etc but rather violence.  What can we reasonably do about criminals who are wantonly violent? What can we do to stop violence in the home (against anyone, men women or children), what supports are needed there to reduce that. 

How do we catch people before they become mass killers and address them? Do we need more public training to recognize danger signs, do we need red flag rules and more psychiatric support teams, backed by legal empowerment if necessary? How can we intervene if we think there's an issue without making it worse?

And of course, we need to change how we deal with violent offenders. Right now they're getting out immediately after being arrested and frequently reoffend. We also need to improve 'dangerous offender' laws so that if someone is chronically violent we can remove them from society until they're safe. 

It would be nice if they could smarten up in the states, they're further behind than us. Dems need to forget about gun bans and republicans need to give up their fear that ANY changes will lead to more gun bans, and they need to start talking about better models for background checks and red flag laws and educating their own people on what to look for before someone becomes homicidal etc etc. 

But i don't know how you get there.  IF there's a shooting, there's an instant attack from the left on banning guns and an instant digging in of heels and angry replies from the republicans and that runs pretty deep now so how do you get past it?

 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
3 hours ago, User said:

You are the one on here with the fake outrage. You are standing on top of dead kids bodies to score cheap political points. 

 

You are from the country that just expresses fake outrage and makes up excuses.

Posted
Just now, Aristides said:

You are from the country that just expresses fake outrage and makes up excuses.

Except, that is not what I have done here. 

You are the one engaged in comics and ignoring anything other than your dislike of guns. 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, User said:

Except, that is not what I have done here. 

You are the one engaged in comics and ignoring anything other than your dislike of guns. 

 

Sure it is. Your country has more guns per capita than any country on earth yet you can't keep your kids safe in their schools.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estimated_number_of_civilian_guns_per_capita_by_country

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Sure it is. Your country has more guns per capita than any country on earth yet you can't keep your kids safe in their schools.

No, I proposed some thoughts on how we could do better. You are not interested in that though, you just want to use dead kids to score cheap points. 

 

 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You are from the country that just expresses fake outrage and makes up excuses.

we literally activated the emergency act over a bouncy castle and tried to blame the russians. 

 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
14 minutes ago, User said:

No, I proposed some thoughts on how we could do better. You are not interested in that though, you just want to use dead kids to score cheap points. 

You want to ignore them to maintain the status quo. Arm teachers, put more guns in schools, just so nothing else has to change.

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