Y'all are f'ked

[Venandi]

A good video for anyone inclined to say "wait a minute now, let's just think about this for a second." 

https://www.rebelnews.com/gun_violence_surges_as_liberals_aim_at_the_wrong_target_rod_giltaca

The sort of easy, strait forward discussion that could have taken place anytime, on any network or news outlet... but never did.

Through painful, often deadly experience, it's become obvious to anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear that innocent people are getting hurt simply because of a systemic failure to address real issues. It's also obvious that the issues which are being addressed are nothing more than cynical political expediency designed to create wedge issues.

I think people are beginning to resent being duped and the more liberals double down on nonsense, the more people (with a kitchen window to look out of) begin to resent it. 

As an aside, I'd like to see a similar discussion about the deliberate statistical manipulations that went into the "domestically sourced crime gun" scam a few years back and the police collusion that enabled and supported it. The fact that more people aren't utterly appalled and outraged by all this is a testament to the information management techniques that were deployed against them.

For those interested in such things, it's been a truly fascinating journey.

Edited December 27, 2024 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

 

As an aside, I'd like to see a similar discussion about the deliberate statistical manipulations that went into the "domestically sourced crime gun" scam a few years back and the police collusion that enabled and supported it. The fact that more people aren't utterly appalled and outraged by all this is a testament to the information management techniques that were deployed against them.

Frankly a significant number of Canadians applauded it. Even recently we have seen that those on the left don't mind people's rights being violated at all as long as it's someone they don't like. For example in the states a large percentage of democrats polled that they believe that the charges against trump were politically motivated. Yet most of those same people polled that they approved of it. Everybody in Canada should have been horrified at the use of the emergency act to suppress protest in what we now know is an unlawful fashion. Yet a stunning number of people absolutely approved of it though we can be sure that most of those people would be quite upset if it was used to repress a group that they approved of.

The old phrase "I disagree with what you say but I defend to the death your right to say it" Has gone completely out the window. Now it's more like I disagree with what you say therefore you have no right to say it but I insist that people I like do have that right.

Rod is a great guy, I have spoken with him many times in the past when he was getting going.  And yes the whole firearms fight was absolutely fascinating. 

[Aristides]

The surge in violence has nothing to do with the hand gun bans. On the other hand, the hand gun bans have done nothing to reduce violence. Even the police associations say they will have little effect and do not support them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/handgun-ban-blair-toronto-police-union-1.4807778

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The surge in violence has nothing to do with the hand gun bans.

Really. Funny how every single time we have a gun ban or new gun laws gun crime goes up.

 

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On the other hand, the hand gun bans have done nothing to reduce violence. Even the police associations say they will have little effect and do not support them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/handgun-ban-blair-toronto-police-union-1.4807778

 

They are correct.

But what they don't mention is how these things actually do impact violent crime rates. And like I said we have frequently seen violent crime go up right after new gun  legislation is introduced

First, they pull incredibly important resources away from the fight against violence. There is a limited amount of legislative time, money, resources, and police. When you set them to working on how to collect lawful firearms from lawful owners you take away resources that are necessary to actually fight violent crime and you completely distract from or ignore that debate and topic. And of course time goes up

Secondly you make illegal guns sound cool to the bad guys. When you go on and on about how you can kill hundreds of people with a single pull of the trigger if you have a handgun you make carrying an illegal handgun that much cooler for those who will break the law anyway. And we see more and more illegal guns brought into our country as a result.

The anti-gun fight costs lives. It has cost lives before and it has cost lives again under Trudeau. When you combine it with soft laws on criminals, mandatory bail and such then you wind up with the disaster we see today

 

[Venandi]

No one in the city needs a pickup truck and no civilian should be allowed access to automatic transmissions:

See, I can do it too.

 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

No one in the city needs a pickup truck and no civilian should be allowed access to automatic transmissions:

See, I can do it too.

 

Sounds like the two people shot in that incident will be fine. Just the people hit by the truck are dead. 

But of course these dead people don't matter to Arisides and his friends.... no gun. So they're not as dead as they would have been if they'd been shot with an AR. 

[Venandi]

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So they're not as dead as they would have been if they'd been shot with an AR. 

Here's an update on the incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_Orleans_truck_attack

I think this will become an increasingly popular technique with bad actors, it's cruder, more effective and easier to deploy than the whole AR thing. Throwing in a couple of barrels of ANFO (for when you bog down) is likely next on the TTP list.

The weapon of choice here was a Ford F150 Lightning... for some, the fact that it's likely the first carbon neutral mass casualty event in terrorism history will likely resonate.    

[herbie]

I was forced to jump through hoops, take tests and ask permission from the govt to drive a pickup truck. I have to register and pay fees every damn year to keep it. In another decade they'll force me to take refresher courses to show I can still use it safely.
Utter Communism, I tell you!

 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

Here's an update on the incident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_Orleans_truck_attack

I think this will become an increasingly popular technique with bad actors, it's cruder, more effective and easier to deploy than the whole AR thing. Throwing in a couple of barrels of ANFO (for when you bog down) is likely next on the TTP list.

The weapon of choice here was a Ford F150 Lightning... for some, the fact that it's likely the first carbon neutral mass casualty event in terrorism history will likely resonate.    

I think you're right. The only thing that will keep the AR slightly more popular is the fact that the news media will keep the killing alive a lot longer if you use a gun because the democrats will spend the next three weeks screaming that if we had gun control there wouldn't be killings like this. When it's a truck they don't spend the next three weeks claiming that if we had no trucks there wouldn't be incidents like this. So you get a little more media time if you use a gun.

And I agree that these attacks are probably likely to become slightly more sophisticated as we go

The interesting thing here for me is that it wasn't an either or. He HAD a gun.  He could have walked into a crowd shooting people.  But he chose the truck and thought that was the better choice. 

3 hours ago, herbie said:

I was forced to jump through hoops, take tests and ask permission from the govt to drive a pickup truck.

 

And yet they're still used to kill people. In fact if you go nuts tomorrow you could use it to kill people. 

You see how useless that kind of crap is for stopping crimes? 

[Venandi]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

I was forced to jump through hoops, take tests and ask permission from the govt to drive a pickup truck. I have to register and pay fees every damn year to keep it. In another decade they'll force me to take refresher courses to show I can still use it safely.
Utter Communism, I tell you!

 

Hold on Herb, that doesn't go nearly far enough for those of us committed to keeping Canadians safe.

If it has an automatic transmission you can't drive it at all, you must lock all of the doors and store it in a locked garage at all times until we decide to confiscate it (without compensation BTW)... and no, we aren't going to tell you when that will be or how it will be undertaken. 

Unless randomly decreed by OIC, you can still legally retain a truck with a standard transmission unless it has racing stripes measuring over 24.5 inches... that will convert your stock truck into a "stunting style truck," your gas tank must then be modified to hold  no more than 10 litres of fuel. In addition, all gas must be drained daily and stored in a separate area. You can keep the gas in a separate container inside the garage though as long as it isn't in physical contact with the truck and is contained in a locked receptacle. Caution though, this has turned a number of law abiding citizens into criminals...., if your granddaughter doesn't have her drivers license yet she can't have access to the garage key, the truck key, or the gas container key. You will also be required to join an authorized "truck club" and provide evidence of membership with any application for registration renewal.

Since you've retained the trucks original colour you're OK for the moment but should you decide to paint it red you will have to store it in a locked garage anytime it's not in use, in addition you can only drive it to and from work by the most direct route and are restricted to specially approved parking lots.

We haven't even begun to consider time of day restrictions, driving through wilderness areas or even the distance between your truck and the nearest neighbour... you will have to move the garage 6 inches to the left if you want to keep it.  

Should you be needing a new truck I should probably warn you that we're planning to table engine displacement restrictions on all new/used truck purchases... we won't tell you what that displacement limit is going to be either, we want you to guess. Should you guess wrong, please ensure there is enough space next to the truck with the automatic transmission, you won't be able to drive the new one either.

 

 

Edited January 2 by Venandi

[Legato]

19 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Hold on Herb, that doesn't go nearly far enough for those of us committed to keeping Canadians safe.

If it has an automatic transmission you can't drive it at all, you must lock all of the doors and store it in a locked garage at all times until we decide to confiscate it (without compensation BTW)... and no, we aren't going to tell you when that will be or how it will be undertaken. 

Unless randomly decreed by OIC, you can currently retain a truck with a standard transmission unless it has racing stripes... that will convert your stock truck into a "stunting style truck," your gas tank must then be modified to hold  no more than 10 litres of fuel. In addition, all gas must be drained daily and stored in a separate area. You can keep in separate containers in the garage as long as it isn't in physical contact with the truck and is contained in a locked receptacle. Careful now, if your granddaughter doesn't have her drivers license yet take note that she can't have access to the garage key, the truck key, or the gas container key. 

Since you've retained the trucks original colour you're OK for the moment but should you decide to paint it red you will have to store it in a locked garage anytime it's not in use, in addition you can only drive it to and from work by the most direct route and are restricted to specially approved parking lots.

We haven't even begun to consider time of day restrictions, driving through wilderness areas or even the distance between your truck and the nearest neighbour... I think you will have to move the garage 6 inches to the left but I'll get back to ya on that.  

 

and even if it makes excessive noise, fitting noise suppressors is considered a crime and will not be allowed.

[Venandi]

11 minutes ago, Legato said:

and even if it makes excessive noise, fitting noise suppressors is considered a crime and will not be allowed.

Well, only a criminal would want to drive a quiet truck... right?

I was going to tell Herb that if the police were ever to come to his house for any minor (summary type) criminal investigation (trespass, vandalism, minor theft, etc), his truck would be designated a domestic crime truck and be impounded immediately...  he's too busy moving the garage though.   

Edited January 2 by Venandi

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

Hold on Herb, that doesn't go nearly far enough for those of us committed to keeping Canadians safe.

If it has an automatic transmission you can't drive it at all, you must lock all of the doors and store it in a locked garage at all times until we decide to confiscate it (without compensation BTW)... and no, we aren't going to tell you when that will be or how it will be undertaken. 

Unless randomly decreed by OIC, you can still legally retain a truck with a standard transmission unless it has racing stripes measuring over 24.5 inches... that will convert your stock truck into a "stunting style truck," your gas tank must then be modified to hold  no more than 10 litres of fuel. In addition, all gas must be drained daily and stored in a separate area. You can keep the gas in a separate container inside the garage though as long as it isn't in physical contact with the truck and is contained in a locked receptacle. Caution though, this has turned a number of law abiding citizens into criminals...., if your granddaughter doesn't have her drivers license yet she can't have access to the garage key, the truck key, or the gas container key. You will also be required to join an authorized "truck club" and provide evidence of membership with any application for registration renewal.

Since you've retained the trucks original colour you're OK for the moment but should you decide to paint it red you will have to store it in a locked garage anytime it's not in use, in addition you can only drive it to and from work by the most direct route and are restricted to specially approved parking lots.

We haven't even begun to consider time of day restrictions, driving through wilderness areas or even the distance between your truck and the nearest neighbour... you will have to move the garage 6 inches to the left if you want to keep it.  

Should you be needing a new truck I should probably warn you that we're planning to table engine displacement restrictions on all new/used truck purchases... we won't tell you what that displacement limit is going to be either, we want you to guess. Should you guess wrong, please ensure there is enough space next to the truck with the automatic transmission, you won't be able to drive the new one either.

 

 

I laughed, i cried, it was the feel-good post of the holiday season   

3 hours ago, Legato said:

and even if it makes excessive noise, fitting noise suppressors is considered a crime and will not be allowed.

Silenced (electric) vehicles should be banned. 

Also those short-barreled smart cars. Just too easy to conceal. 

[Venandi]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I laughed, i cried, it was the feel-good post of the holiday season   

Thanks, I usually get nothing more than a profound sense of sadness from it all.