Biden/Harris parting gift to the world: A World War

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Why?

Why?

He doesn't care "why".

Russia Bad. That's as far as he can go.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

He doesn't care "why".

Russia Bad. That's as far as he can go.

That's fine for him, as long as he's 6 years old. If he's 9, he's way behind the learning curve. 

[User]

28 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Regardless of this...would you like to see a nuclear holocaust? Because it sounds like you're ok with the idea.

Are you?

What did I say that sounds like I am OK with a nuclear holocaust?

 

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, User said:

What did I say that sounds like I am OK with a nuclear holocaust?

 

No. So I assume you're not ok with nuclear war.

Good on ya.

Perhaps now might be a good time to dial it all back then?

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Trump will not put the best interests of the world first, but his own. He would burn it all down, in order to “rule over the ashes.” (in the words of Sun Tzu)

And - According to Yuri Shvets, a former KGB spy and a key source for the book American Kompromat, Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the 1980s.

Trump became the target of a KGB spying operation around 1980. In 1987, he travelled to Russia, where they flattered him (they knew his psychology – and that he was vulnerable) and fed him Russian propaganda.

After that trip, Trump came home and started spreading pro-Russia talking points, including skepticism about US involvement in NATO. He took out full-page ads in the New York Times, Washington Post, and Boston Globe “on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves.”

Russia celebrated the ads as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset.

Since then, he has always taken Russia’s side.

You can read briefly about this in the Guardian article: ‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

oh here we go with the completely unsubstantiated and thoroughly debunked "Trump is a Russian" nonsense again.

It's hard to think of a way for you to discredit yourself faster than pulling out that other nonsense after literally thousands of hours of Investigation have gone into it and found nothing criminal or even agent-like

It's a joke.

I suspect that trump will do whatever he thinks will look best to the people that he believes supports him. I believe he's probably going to say that ending the war is what will make him look best and he will try and do that. We'll see how it goes

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

No. So I assume you're not ok with nuclear war.

Good on ya.

Perhaps now might be a good time to dial it all back then?

A good time to dial it back was Russia not going to war in the first place. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, User said:

A good time to dial it back was Russia not going to war in the first place. 

That's true. But they did as a consequence of the precipitous acts I outlined.

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

That's true. But they did as a consequence of the precipitous acts I outlined.

Nope. This is a war of choice, nothing made them do this except their own evil motivations. 

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, User said:

Nope. This is a war of choice, nothing made them do this except their own evil motivations. 

Evil? Ok ill bite. What evil motivations?

[User]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Evil? Ok ill bite. What evil motivations?

LOL, the fact that I must explain this to you speaks volumes. 

Wars of conquest are, by their very nature, immoral. The lies, deceit, and shadow war Russia created in Ukraine, the exploitation of Ukrainian turmoil to take Crimea... 

These are not good things. 

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, the fact that I must explain this to you speaks volumes. 

Wars of conquest are, by their very nature, immoral. The lies, deceit, and shadow war Russia created in Ukraine, the exploitation of Ukrainian turmoil to take Crimea... 

These are not good things. 

No. They are not good things. So which NATO ally is Russia attacking?

America has attacked countless nations. Is America "evil" too?

[User]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. They are not good things. So which NATO ally is Russia attacking?

America has attacked countless nations. Is America "evil" too?

Doesn't have to be a NATO ally for it to be evil what they are doing. 

I did not merely say attacking a country. Of course though, you would be here trying to equate a full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine with anything America has done... of course. 

That is exactly why you are rightly called out as being someone who supports Russia and pushes Russian lies and propaganda and other arguments like these to support them. 

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Doesn't have to be a NATO ally for it to be evil what they are doing. 

I did not merely say attacking a country. Of course though, you would be here trying to equate a full scale Russian invasion of Ukraine with anything America has done... of course. 

That is exactly why you are rightly called out as being someone who supports Russia and pushes Russian lies and propaganda and other arguments like these to support them. 

Tell me...did you support "Shock and Awe"? How did you feel about the USA attacking Iraq?

[Black Dog]

56 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No. They are not good things. So which NATO ally is Russia attacking?

America has attacked countless nations. Is America "evil" too?

Yes.

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Tell me...did you support "Shock and Awe"? How did you feel about the USA attacking Iraq?

Shock and Awe... in what context? 

I have no interest in arguing the Iraq war with you when the entire premise is absurd. You are here trying to morally equate American war in Iraq with the Russian war in Ukraine. 

Once again, further proving the absurd lengths you will go to in order to defend Russia and support their war. 

 

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Shock and Awe... in what context? 

I have no interest in arguing the Iraq war with you when the entire premise is absurd. You are here trying to morally equate American war in Iraq with the Russian war in Ukraine. 

Once again, further proving the absurd lengths you will go to in order to defend Russia and support their war. 

Yeah why would anyone equate an imperial war of aggression with an imperial war of aggression.

 

[User]

Just now, Black Dog said:

Yeah why would anyone equate an imperial war of aggression with an imperial war of aggression.

 

Don't let your misplaced ignorance on the Iraq war turn you into someone ignorantly defending what Russia is doing by equating them with America. 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 11/18/2024 at 5:29 AM, Radiorum said:

Trump will not put the best interests of the world first, but his own. He would burn it all down, in order to “rule over the ashes.” (in the words of Sun Tzu)

OMG, give a dummy a quote and see how poorly they use it lol.

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And - According to Yuri Shvets, a former KGB spy and a key source for the book American Kompromat, Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the 1980s.

And this Yuri Shvets guy can be trusted, because he did a great job of running the country from 2017-2021. 

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Trump became the target of a KGB spying operation around 1980. In 1987, he travelled to Russia, where they flattered him (they knew his psychology – and that he was vulnerable) and fed him Russian propaganda.

Thanks, we'll bear your expert testimony in mind. 

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After that trip, Trump came home and started spreading pro-Russia talking points, including skepticism about US involvement in NATO. He took out full-page ads in the New York Times, Washington Post, and Boston Globe “on why America should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves.”

Close. He told all those guys to up their military budgets and it was very important for him to do that. FYI the US can't fight China, Russia, NoKo and Iran all by themselves. If Europe is doing nothing, then nothing can be done about those other guys.

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Russia celebrated the ads as a successful “active measure” executed by a new KGB asset.

Since then, he has always taken Russia’s side.

You can read briefly about this in the Guardian article: ‘The perfect target’: Russia cultivated Trump as asset for 40 years – ex-KGB spy

You can watch MSNBC and learn about how white men are all evil racists. That doesn't make it true, right? And MSNBC is a bit bigger than "The Guardian".  

If you're just figuring out that the MSM lies then join the alt-left cult here. Shave your head and swear off sex for 4 years. 

[Black Dog]

28 minutes ago, User said:

Don't let your misplaced ignorance on the Iraq war turn you into someone ignorantly defending what Russia is doing by equating them with America. 

You don't have to defend a morally repugnant conflict just because you got suckered into serving in it.

And if you think I'm defending Russia by equating the two, you need to get your head examined.

[User]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You don't have to defend a morally repugnant conflict just because you got suckered into serving in it.

And if you think I'm defending Russia by equating the two, you need to get your head examined.

Of course you are defending Russia now. 

When you reduce the depravity of what they are engaged in right now to your ignorant dislike of the war in Iraq, you are in fact downplaying what Russia is doing. 

[User]

On 11/18/2024 at 7:29 AM, Radiorum said:

And - According to Yuri Shvets, a former KGB spy and a key source for the book American Kompromat, Donald Trump has been a Russian asset since the 1980s.

Do you actually believe this BS?

 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

Of course you are defending Russia now. 

When you reduce the depravity of what they are engaged in right now to your ignorant dislike of the war in Iraq, you are in fact downplaying what Russia is doing. 

"no no, you see my unjustified war of aggression against a smaller sovereign country was good, theirs is bad!" lol

[Nationalist]

50 minutes ago, User said:

Shock and Awe... in what context? 

I have no interest in arguing the Iraq war with you when the entire premise is absurd. You are here trying to morally equate American war in Iraq with the Russian war in Ukraine. 

Once again, further proving the absurd lengths you will go to in order to defend Russia and support their war. 

 

Lol...yes dear

 

[User]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Lol...yes dear

You jumped into this discussion to defend Russia. Like all the others, your lame arguments, lies, and BS get destroyed and you got nothing. 

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

"no no, you see my unjustified war of aggression against a smaller sovereign country was good, theirs is bad!" lol

No, no, you see, Russia's not really evil, because America is just as bad! 

Who is helping Ukraine right now? 

 

[Black Dog]

10 minutes ago, User said:

No, no, you see, Russia's not really evil, because America is just as bad! 

Who is helping Ukraine right now? 

No Russia is evil and so was the Iraq invasion. They don't, like, cancel each other out or something lol.