An astounding failure of political responsibility and collapse of citizenship - a new age of America

[myata]

The two necessary parts - a decay of integrity in the political system and a decay of responsible citizenship have converged to mark a watershed point in the history of America. Choices were made and precedents set. Returning to the past is not possible. We're seeing the first days of the new age, in which no rules, no traditions or memories of the past can be counted on and held on to, no matter how much or often recited. The divide has been passed beyond the point of no return.

"Electing Joe" was certainly a strong contributing factor to this precipitous manifestation of the change that was developing for some time now. Entitlement to power; bewilderment by it to the point of a total disconnect with the reality. An awkward semi-believable effort to cover it up like nothing much happened. Matched by a total disregard of responsibility before the country and the history itself by the other party, giving in to an non-democratic authoritarian cult and creating the basis for the split.

And for the final and entirely necessary contribution, the collapse of citizenship. Democracy is not a wishing well, no popularity pageant. Where important decisions are based on hearsay, sentiment and/or a whim, surprises will follow. It is clear now that a large part of America's population will accept a fascist government in some form in exchange for a promise or an illusion of return to prosperity. Just like it happened in other places before.

Well this is a fact now and it's pronounced not by some numbers but by the reality itself:

- Will mob bosses become normal and accepted candidates for top positions in the democracy in exchange for promises (not necessarily the reality) of generous handouts to the pueblo, as is the standard practice in other such places?

- Will America begin aligning itself with the worst anti-democratic totalitarian regimes of the planet?

- Will it attempt to weaken and undermine the defense alliance of democracies, from being its leader for several decades?

- Will "just find me those votes" become the normal and accepted election-time strategy, maduro-style? Now accepted and rewarded: an accomplish fact.

- Will it begin the practice of persecution of opposition with pocket law enforcement and judiciary looking the other way?

See, we don't know the answers anymore. It used to be so easy but nothing is certain now. And this is the answer in itself: a watershed. Nothing is and will be the same, from here. Don't dream and no point trying to look the other way in the vain hope what it all would just disappear, as a dream or morning fog.

No such hopes. The age of the founding fathers; of the victories of WWII; of the space age and defeating the totalitarian communism is herewith officially over, past and bygone. The new answers aren't known, they are wide open and will have to be rewritten and written anew. They can be very different: no promises and guarantees now, the future being wide open. And so be it, bring it on. We knew it and we chose it.

Edited November 14, 2024 by myata

[robosmith]

27 minutes ago, myata said:

The two necessary parts - a decay of integrity in the political system and a decay of responsible citizenship have converged to mark a watershed point in the history of America. Choices were made and precedents set. Returning to the past is not possible. We're seeing the first days of the new age, in which no rules, no traditions or memories of the past can be counted on and held on to, no matter how much or often recited. The divide has been passed beyond the point of no return.

"Electing Joe" was certainly a strong contributing factor to this precipitous manifestation of the change that was developing for some time now. Entitlement to power; bewilderment by it to the point of a total disconnect with the reality. An awkward semi-believable effort to cover it up like nothing much happened. Matched by a total disregard of responsibility before the country and the history itself by the other party, giving in to an non-democratic authoritarian cult and creating the basis for the split.

And for the final and entirely necessary contribution, the collapse of citizenship. Democracy is not a wishing well, no popularity pageant. Where important decisions are based on hearsay, sentiment and/or a whim, surprises will follow. It is clear now that a large part of America's population will accept fascist government in some form in exchange for a promise or illusion of a return to prosperity. Just like it happened in other places before.

Well this is a fact now and it's pronounced not by some numbers but by the reality itself:

- Will mob bosses become normal and accepted candidates for top positions in the democracy in exchange for promises (not necessarily the reality) of generous handouts to the pueblo, as is the standard practice in other such places?

- Will America begin aligning itself with the worst anti-democratic totalitarian regimes of the planet?

- Will it attempt to weaken and undermine the defense alliance of democracies, from being its leader for several decades?

- Will "just find me those votes" become the normal and accepted election-time strategy, maduro-style?

- Will it begin the practice of persecution of opposition with pocket law enforcement and judiciary looking the other way?

See, we don't know the answers anymore. It used to be so easy but nothing is certain now. And this is the answer in itself: a watershed. Nothing will be the same, from here. Don't dream and no point trying to look the other way in the vain hope what it all would just disappear, as a dream or morning fog.

No such hopes. The age of the founding fathers; of the victories of WWII; of the space age and defeating the totalitarian communism is herewith officially over, past and bygone. The new answers aren't known, they are wide open and will have to be rewritten and written anew. They can be very different: no promises and guarantees now: the future is wide open. And so be it, bring it on. We knew it and we chose it.

No, we will see the complete FAILURE and DISASTER fomented by the Hitler wanna be, and pull back from the brink of the FASCIST takeover, just like we pulled back from the ugliness of Joseph McCarthy and countless other demagogues.

[myata]

As said: the future is wide open. No promises or guarantees now. The rules, memories and traditions will have to be made anew.

[Nationalist]

LOL...

Frick and Frack have a whinefest.

[myata]

Another factual token, as argued many times, that the past, great words, symbols and rituals account for nothing and mean little when and if the spirit and essence leave. Only another example in countless many in history. Oh well.

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, myata said:

The two necessary parts - a decay of integrity in the political system and a decay of responsible citizenship have converged to mark a watershed point in the history of America. Choices were made and precedents set. Returning to the past is not possible. We're seeing the first days of the new age, in which no rules, no traditions or memories of the past can be counted on and held on to, no matter how much or often recited. The divide has been passed beyond the point of no return.

"Electing Joe" was certainly a strong contributing factor to this precipitous manifestation of the change that was developing for some time now. Entitlement to power; bewilderment by it to the point of a total disconnect with the reality. An awkward semi-believable effort to cover it up like nothing much happened. Matched by a total disregard of responsibility before the country and the history itself by the other party, giving in to an non-democratic authoritarian cult and creating the basis for the split.

And for the final and entirely necessary contribution, the collapse of citizenship. Democracy is not a wishing well, no popularity pageant. Where important decisions are based on hearsay, sentiment and/or a whim, surprises will follow. It is clear now that a large part of America's population will accept a fascist government in some form in exchange for a promise or an illusion of return to prosperity. Just like it happened in other places before.

Well this is a fact now and it's pronounced not by some numbers but by the reality itself:

- Will mob bosses become normal and accepted candidates for top positions in the democracy in exchange for promises (not necessarily the reality) of generous handouts to the pueblo, as is the standard practice in other such places?

- Will America begin aligning itself with the worst anti-democratic totalitarian regimes of the planet?

- Will it attempt to weaken and undermine the defense alliance of democracies, from being its leader for several decades?

- Will "just find me those votes" become the normal and accepted election-time strategy, maduro-style? Now accepted and rewarded: an accomplish fact.

- Will it begin the practice of persecution of opposition with pocket law enforcement and judiciary looking the other way?

See, we don't know the answers anymore. It used to be so easy but nothing is certain now. And this is the answer in itself: a watershed. Nothing is and will be the same, from here. Don't dream and no point trying to look the other way in the vain hope what it all would just disappear, as a dream or morning fog.

No such hopes. The age of the founding fathers; of the victories of WWII; of the space age and defeating the totalitarian communism is herewith officially over, past and bygone. The new answers aren't known, they are wide open and will have to be rewritten and written anew. They can be very different: no promises and guarantees now, the future being wide open. And so be it, bring it on. We knew it and we chose it.

It's so great to see you self reflecting,  myata, it's truly inspiring. 

The question is, will your fellow cult members take your introspections to heart? 

[myata]

Ignorance, mental laziness, carelessness are never, ever sound excuses for the evolution. No, it works quite the other way: they are the symptoms of the decomposition and decay. And the consequences will follow, with the certainty of the Time. No way we couldn't know.

[User]

On 11/14/2024 at 9:12 AM, myata said:

Ignorance, mental laziness, carelessness are never, ever sound excuses for the evolution. No, it works quite the other way: they are the symptoms of the decomposition and decay. And the consequences will follow, with the certainty of the Time. No way we couldn't know.

Mental laziness.. you mean, like how you never defend the garbage you post or explain yourself?

 

[NAME REMOVED]

On 11/14/2024 at 8:12 AM, myata said:

Ignorance, mental laziness, carelessness are never, ever sound excuses for the evolution. No, it works quite the other way: they are the symptoms of the decomposition and decay. And the consequences will follow, with the certainty of the Time. No way we couldn't know.

Brilliant post.

It's a shame it  will be lost on many of the neanderthals here that fail to comprehend political history...

[User]

19 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Brilliant post.

It's a shame it  will be lost on many of the neanderthals here that fail to comprehend political history...

Of course you would think that was a brilliant post. It was meaningless vaguery. 

[WestCanMan]

Another Myata thread LOL.

Why do they always sound like a more childish version of this:

 

[Deluge]

On 11/13/2024 at 11:59 PM, myata said:

The two necessary parts - a decay of integrity in the political system and a decay of responsible citizenship have converged to mark a watershed point in the history of America. Choices were made and precedents set. Returning to the past is not possible. We're seeing the first days of the new age, in which no rules, no traditions or memories of the past can be counted on and held on to, no matter how much or often recited. The divide has been passed beyond the point of no return.

"Electing Joe" was certainly a strong contributing factor to this precipitous manifestation of the change that was developing for some time now. Entitlement to power; bewilderment by it to the point of a total disconnect with the reality. An awkward semi-believable effort to cover it up like nothing much happened. Matched by a total disregard of responsibility before the country and the history itself by the other party, giving in to an non-democratic authoritarian cult and creating the basis for the split.

And for the final and entirely necessary contribution, the collapse of citizenship. Democracy is not a wishing well, no popularity pageant. Where important decisions are based on hearsay, sentiment and/or a whim, surprises will follow. It is clear now that a large part of America's population will accept a fascist government in some form in exchange for a promise or an illusion of return to prosperity. Just like it happened in other places before.

Well this is a fact now and it's pronounced not by some numbers but by the reality itself:

- Will mob bosses become normal and accepted candidates for top positions in the democracy in exchange for promises (not necessarily the reality) of generous handouts to the pueblo, as is the standard practice in other such places?

- Will America begin aligning itself with the worst anti-democratic totalitarian regimes of the planet?

- Will it attempt to weaken and undermine the defense alliance of democracies, from being its leader for several decades?

- Will "just find me those votes" become the normal and accepted election-time strategy, maduro-style? Now accepted and rewarded: an accomplish fact.

- Will it begin the practice of persecution of opposition with pocket law enforcement and judiciary looking the other way?

See, we don't know the answers anymore. It used to be so easy but nothing is certain now. And this is the answer in itself: a watershed. Nothing is and will be the same, from here. Don't dream and no point trying to look the other way in the vain hope what it all would just disappear, as a dream or morning fog.

No such hopes. The age of the founding fathers; of the victories of WWII; of the space age and defeating the totalitarian communism is herewith officially over, past and bygone. The new answers aren't known, they are wide open and will have to be rewritten and written anew. They can be very different: no promises and guarantees now, the future being wide open. And so be it, bring it on. We knew it and we chose it.

myata is frustrated because construction on the bridge to marxism is slowing down. 

[myata]

A large part of the society, beyond and wider than the deadbrain cult will try to convince and reassure itself now that nothing much has happened. Ball game and football game, concerts and shows life goes on. That it will be fixed somehow and by itself because it always did and it has to.

Nope. No way. Chants and appeals don't work with the evolution. The watershed line has been crossed, the new normals established and precedents set. Nothing will be the same when citizens, reason and responsibility departed. Nothing can be. Obviously.

Edited November 16, 2024 by myata