Yakuda Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Well blm isn't a country You're right but it does fit your description of fascism which I posted. The whole BLM bulls hit was based on a strong collective identity. Where it failed was advancing social cohesion and altruism although that was ostensibly the purpose of the group. It was group focused and divisive. Edited November 11, 2024 by Yakuda Quote
CdnFox Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 27 minutes ago, Five of swords said: I see you are still retarded I'm sure everything seems distorted like that when you're staring at the world from through the bottom of your milk bottle Quote
Five of swords Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yakuda said: You're right but it does fit your description of fascism which I posted. The whole BLM bulls hit was based on a strong collective identity. Where it failed was advancing social cohesion and altruism although that was ostensibly the purpose of the group. It was group focused and divisive. If blm seized control of the usa, and required the state to facilitate negotiations between workers and capital, it would count as a fascist organization. it also would probably remove citizenship of all white people, because white people would be perceived as a security threat to the welfare of black people. So sure, that would be fascism. It would also be pretty close to the German national socialist version of fascism, because the national identity it fosters is racial. That might help explain why there was an alliance between the American nazi party under Rockwell and the nation of Islam...they had compatible goals. Edited November 11, 2024 by Five of swords Quote
Five of swords Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I'm sure everything seems distorted like that when you're staring at the world from through the bottom of your milk bottle This is exactly the sort if point I would expect you to make. I certainly didn't think you would be capable of answering my question. Quote
Yakuda Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Five of swords said: If blm seized control of the usa, and required the state to facilitate negotiations between workers and capital, it would count as a fascist organization. it also would probably remove citizenship of all white people, because white people would be perceived as a security threat to the welfare of black people. So sure, that would be fascism. It would also be pretty close to the German national socialist version of fascism, because the national identity it fosters is racial. That might help explain why there was an alliance between the American nazi party under Rockwell and the nation of Islam...they had compatible goals. So you're saying they're fascist they're just just not a fascist country. Glad we agree Edited November 11, 2024 by Yakuda Quote
Five of swords Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Yakuda said: So you're saying they're fascist they're just just not a fascist country. Glad we agree Insofar as they accent a collective identity they are fascist. But political fascism would involve using a collective identity title to overcome class conflict. Blm instead seems to use identity in an apolitical way. Just gritting to make the leaders rich.that is not fascist and indeed not political Quote
CdnFox Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 3 hours ago, Five of swords said: This is exactly the sort if point I would expect you to make. Considering the point was you're a child I think everyone expected it Your question is a joke. And the only reason you're asking a question instead of addressing the point or making an argument is because you know you've already lost. So you're trying to drag it out by bringing up banalities and not addressing the simple point. As I have said of you before, I'm sure that absolutely wows them in grade 6 debate class but this is a little bit more sophisticated. 57 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Insofar as they accent a collective identity they are fascist. But political fascism would involve using a collective identity title to overcome class conflict. Blm instead seems to use identity in an apolitical way. Just gritting to make the leaders rich.that is not fascist and indeed not political BLM is entirely political and is all about class conflict. Their whole proposition is that black people are considered a lower class than others and they feel that's unfair. Further they propose the redistribution of wealth as part of the solution of resolving this inequity. But I think that calling a political movement a political is kind of silly Quote
Five of swords Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Considering the point was you're a child I think everyone expected it Your question is a joke. And the only reason you're asking a question instead of addressing the point or making an argument is because you know you've already lost. So you're trying to drag it out by bringing up banalities and not addressing the simple point. As I have said of you before, I'm sure that absolutely wows them in grade 6 debate class but this is a little bit more sophisticated. BLM is entirely political and is all about class conflict. Their whole proposition is that black people are considered a lower class than others and they feel that's unfair. Further they propose the redistribution of wealth as part of the solution of resolving this inequity. But I think that calling a political movement a political is kind of silly You understood my point exactly as well as I expected you to Quote
CdnFox Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 1 minute ago, Five of swords said: You understood my point exactly as well as I expected you to The only point you have is the one on the top of your head. Fascism is a type of national socialism not the other way around. Quote
Five of swords Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The only point you have is the one on the top of your head. Fascism is a type of national socialism not the other way around. Interesting taxonomy. So would you also say fascism is a kind of national socialist GERMAN worker's party? Quote
Yakuda Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Five of swords said: Insofar as they accent a collective identity they are fascist. But political fascism would involve using a collective identity title to overcome class conflict. Blm instead seems to use identity in an apolitical way. Just gritting to make the leaders rich.that is not fascist and indeed not political It's nothing but fascism Quote
Five of swords Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 1 hour ago, Yakuda said: It's nothing but fascism Well that assertion just means you don't understand fascism Quote
CdnFox Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 2 hours ago, Five of swords said: Interesting taxonomy. So would you also say fascism is a kind of national socialist GERMAN worker's party? I HAVE said both are examples of national socialism several times. And that nazi national socailsm is not the same as fascism, there are important differences. It would be great if you could stretch that tiny attention span of your over at least a couple of posts. You haven't even tried to make an argument yet. You deny it and run off like a child. I gave you ample opportunity to explain why in your mind this isn't the case and you haven't even bother to try. I get why. You're wrong and you realize it. There's really not much more point to this conversation, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and can't articulate what thinking so there you go Quote
Yakuda Posted November 12, 2024 Report Posted November 12, 2024 9 hours ago, Five of swords said: Well that assertion just means you don't understand fascism I understand it perfectly and that's what annoys you most of all. You'll have to get over it Quote
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