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[robosmith]

Just now, ironstone said:

And that's why you personally don't care about it?

And do you have any sympathy for those families that have lost loved one's because they were murdered by illegal immigrants?

My sympathy is NOT limited to tragedies at the hands of immigrant criminals, which are at a much lower rate than US citizen criminals. 

But your sympathy for abused foreigners appears to be NONEXISTENT.

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh bull$hit. Only the left pushes for illegal immigration. Only the left excuses illegal immigration. You can't separate the results of your mess from the policies you advocate.

You don't even know what immigration is illegal. Asking for asylum and being granted release pending review is completely LEGAL.

[ironstone]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

But your sympathy for abused foreigners appears to be NONEXISTENT.

My sympathy is very limited for people that enter any country illegally and then demand free stuff. And even less sympathy for politicians that cheerfully give it to them.

And of those supposed 'abused foreigners', didn't you notice that an awful lot of them are young, military age men?

Just thought I would point that out.

Edited October 30, 2024 by ironstone

[robosmith]

19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

My sympathy is very limited for people that enter any country illegally and then demand free stuff. And even less sympathy for politicians that cheerfully give it to them.

And of those supposed 'abused foreigners', didn't you notice that an awful lot of them are young, military age men?

Just thought I would point that out.

You live in Canada, so it's really NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Most immigrants here are asking for nothing but a JOB.

The vast majority of immigrants at the border are FAMILIES escaping gang violence.

[ironstone]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You live in Canada, so it's really NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Most immigrants here are asking for nothing but a JOB.

The vast majority of immigrants at the border are FAMILIES escaping gang violence.

This is a Canadian forum and I welcome you here, even though we basically disagree on everything. And I believe in one's right to voice opinions on any subject.

You clearly don't share that belief. No surprise, as your side tends to engage in a lot more censorship of others.

Those aren't families violently taking over apartment buildings in Colorado btw. You likely have no idea what I'm referencing here either.

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, ironstone said:

This is a Canadian forum and I welcome you here, even though we basically disagree on everything. And I believe in one's right to voice opinions on any subject.

You clearly don't share that belief. No surprise, as your side tends to engage in a lot more censorship of others.

Those aren't families violently taking over apartment buildings in Colorado btw. You likely have no idea what I'm referencing here either.

You don't even know that the mayor of Aurora, CO has categorically denied that BULLSHIT.

No one is censoring you but yourself, cause all you believe is the right wing echo chamber.

BTW, Greg has made this NOT a Canadian forum. Maple NO MORE. Duh

Edited October 30, 2024 by robosmith

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Completely IGNORANT of the LAW governing ASYLUM CLAIMS.

robowoke thinks asylum seekers can whatever the f*ck they want. lol

No, stupid, even asylum seekers have to follow our laws. And when Trump gets back into office he will help these people do it properly.  

Edited October 30, 2024 by Deluge

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Neither party has ever encouraged illegal immigration. 

Bill$hit.

Surge the borders.' "I would in fact make sure that there is immediately a surge to the border. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. "We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'" Biden had told during a debate moderated by Univision's Jorge Ramos in 2019.

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

This continues to be an very stupid argument--as it was before you added a shocking ignorance of history.

If immigrants don't offend at higher rates then the crimes that do occur are no more "enabled" than any other crimes. It's the sort of reason-free argument that says that since blue cars have accidents, we could reduce traffic fatalities by banning blue cars. 

People--of any--description come with plusses and minuses. They add to productivity, they add to population growth, they add more organ donors, they add to pollution, they add to to traffic congestion, they add to crime. But if they aren't creating disproportionately negative impact then throwing out an example of a crime is misleading vividness. 

 

Here, for example, is a story of an undocumented immigrant saving a boy after an accident. It's a vivid and touching story. The boy wouldn't be alive without the fact of illegal immigration. Should this story then be used to argue that undocumented immigration is good? No, of course not. Because that's not how farking logic works. 

That the problem, you all have a surplus of big feelings but not a speck of logic among you. 

 

Again, they add to the number of crimes. You can try to confuse that fact all you want, but it remains a fact.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, Deluge said:

robowoke thinks asylum seekers can whatever the f*ck they want. lol

No, stupid, even asylum seekers have to follow our laws. And when Trump gets back into office he will help these people do it properly.  

I showed you the law, all you got is ^BULLSHIT.

11 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Bill$hit.

Surge the borders.' "I would in fact make sure that there is immediately a surge to the border. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. "We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'" Biden had told during a debate moderated by Univision's Jorge Ramos in 2019.

Again, they add to the number of crimes. You can try to confuse that fact all you want, but it remains a fact.

Only the ones that the border judge allows to stay are released pending asylum, and that is LEGAL, dumbass.

[Deluge]

36 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. I showed you the law, all you got is ^BULLSHIT.

2. Only the ones that the border judge allows to stay are released pending asylum, and that is LEGAL, dumbass.

1. You showed me that you don't understand the law. Get it right, dumbass. 

2. And the judges are doing it wrong. They're activists, just like you, so they really don't know what in the f*ck is going on. 

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You don't even know that the mayor of Aurora, CO has categorically denied that BULLSHIT.

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-venezuelan-gang-activity-aurora-crime-woman-moves-video-guns/

The extent of crimes done by illegals is hard to determine. Some people just don't want to acknowledge it at all.

[robosmith]

35 minutes ago, ironstone said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado-venezuelan-gang-activity-aurora-crime-woman-moves-video-guns/

The extent of crimes done by illegals is hard to determine. Some people just don't want to acknowledge it at all.

From your cite:

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In a statement, APD says in part:

"It would be improper at this time for the city and APD to make any conclusory statements about specific incidents or provide details about law enforcement strategy and operations. Based on our initial investigative work, we believe reports of TdA influence in Aurora are isolated."

 

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

You live in Canada, so it's really NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

So you are angry at a Canadian for merely voicing his opinion on American politics...while at the same time, you are not the slightest bit concerned that around 10 million unvetted people have entered your country illegally in the last 4 years?

😮

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

I showed you the law, all you got is ^BULLSHIT.

Only the ones that the border judge allows to stay are released pending asylum, and that is LEGAL, dumbass.

How many actually come back for their hearing? I eagerly awaiting your answer.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Bill$hit.

Surge the borders.' "I would in fact make sure that there is immediately a surge to the border. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. "We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'" Biden had told during a debate moderated by Univision's Jorge Ramos in 2019.

Again, they add to the number of crimes. You can try to confuse that fact all you want, but it remains a fact.

^^ you can watch that clip online. Biden DOES NOT say that immigrants should surge to the border. He says that as president "we immediately surge the border." Which frankly doesn't make any sense on it's. So probably a misspoken phrase. But he does go on to explain that there's a backlog of people seeking asylum and they deserve to be heard based on our law and our national character. "Surge the border" is how he's describing our increased response to the migrant pressure. For whatever damn reason. 

 

And yes, we've already established several times that more people yield more of everything in a society, including crime. 

Now, perhaps you can try to make a valid argument instead of repeating a logical fallacy.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

You don't even know that the mayor of Aurora, CO has categorically denied that BULLSHIT.

No one is censoring you but yourself, cause all you believe is the right wing echo chamber.

BTW, Greg has made this NOT a Canadian forum. Maple NO MORE. Duh

I literally had to explain to you what a subpoena is. And every single thing we've talked about where we talk about american law I have turned out to be right and you have turned out to be wrong.

Sadly, most Canadians know more than you do even about America.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

How many actually come back for their hearing? I eagerly awaiting your answer.

How would I know? I'm sure the police capture most of them if they try.

[gatomontes99]

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

^^ you can watch that clip online. Biden DOES NOT say that immigrants should surge to the border. He says that as president "we immediately surge the border." Which frankly doesn't make any sense on it's. So probably a misspoken phrase. But he does go on to explain that there's a backlog of people seeking asylum and they deserve to be heard based on our law and our national character. "Surge the border" is how he's describing our increased response to the migrant pressure. For whatever damn reason. 

 

And yes, we've already established several times that more people yield more of everything in a society, including crime. 

Now, perhaps you can try to make a valid argument instead of repeating a logical fallacy.

The video only reinforces what I said.

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

The video only reinforces what I said.

Sure, showing that your "source" misquoted Biden makes reinforces your point. 🙄

[User]

13 hours ago, Hodad said:

Biden DOES NOT say that immigrants should surge to the border.

You are so dishonest. In the same comment he clearly says:

""We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'""

Of course he was talking about this in regards to surging the border, no matter how much you want to obfuscate the surge comment.