Are you a man or a woman?

Deluge · January 8

9 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

I find your above statement to be quite ironic. I can't speak for the internet, but in -this- forum, what I've seen is a -lot- of lack of respect for people who are transgender as well as others from the LGTB community.

No, what you're seeing is pushback.

It's funny; you think drag queens are being victimized because there's opposition to them reading stories to kids, or pole dancing in front of kids. lol

CdnFox · January 8

2 hours ago, Scott75 said:

I think Radiorum had a good response to you there:

You mean you under another account. Nice of you to support yourself like that And you changed what i said so i don't even know what you're referencing.

Dishonesty seems to be your stock and trade

CdnFox · January 8

2 hours ago, Scott75 said:

Very well said, and thank you :-). I just think the last bit was a bit too much, this part:

I strongly suspect that CdnFox -thinks- he's doing the right thing with all these insults. I certainly don't think he's thinking logically here, but these subjects tend to have emotions running high.

The part where you said you certainly don't think sounds about right. The rest is questionable.

Kid there are some people who should expect insults in life. Child molesters. Nazis. You.

You have co-opted and stolen a cause which is not yours for a group to which you do not belong without their consent in order to virtue signal in a way that is insulting to others and will promote hatred towards this group. That's you.

That is detestable Behavior. How on earth can you expect anyone to respect you while you're doing that?

Scott75 · January 9

On 12/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, CdnFox said:

On 12/30/2024 at 4:51 PM, Radiorum said:

Caring about the welfare of others is never scummy. The efforts of @Scott75 have been honourable, yours have been despicable.

You're the same person

As I've told CdnFox before, I only have one account here. At some point, I think he stated that I had 3 accounts. I suppose deluding himself that I had 2 wasn't enough for him -.-

CdnFox · January 9

Just now, Scott75 said:

As I've told CdnFox before, I only have one account here.

You're literally replying to me and talking to me as if I'm in the third person.

See, nobody does that. Nobody quotes the way that you do. There's a few other idiosyncrasies that are unique to you. Yet they show up with other people posting on this thread

Lots of people have little quirks which identify them uniquely. They're kind of like fingerprints.

So it's pretty easy to see that you are lying. Which comes as no surprise to anyone who's been following your posts

Scott75 · January 9

On 12/30/2024 at 7:02 PM, Radiorum said:

@CdnFox Nothing but insults? How sad it must be to be you.

He does make some good points sometimes, but I'd say he wins the gold medal when it comes to insults in this forum.

CdnFox · January 9

Just now, Scott75 said:

He does make some good points sometimes, but I'd say he wins the gold medal when it comes to insults in this forum.

Well at least you agree with yourself, that's always nice to see

Radiorum · January 9

2 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

As I've told CdnFox before, I only have one account here. At some point, I think he stated that I had 3 accounts. I suppose deluding himself that I had 2 wasn't enough for him -.-

I only have one account, too. I've just read through your posts, and know that you are coming from a good place.

I'm trying to understand the hatred. It's some kind of primitive territorialism, I think.

Sometimes, we see threats that are not there.

CdnFox · January 9

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I only have one account, too. I've just read through your posts, and know that you are coming from a good place.

Sure you do

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I'm trying to understand the hatred. It's some kind of primitive territorialism, I think.

Sometimes, we see threats that are not there.

You're not trying to understand it all. It's been spelled out so it's not terribly complicated. What you're doing is dismissing people's concerns as being invalid and suggesting it's some sort of mental defect or primal Instinct rather than reason

Which is what has fuel the hatred so far. This whole thing began as a very simple and straightforward exchange but your "side" (which seems to be mostly the same person with multiple accounts) has expressly demanded that it be hostile. And that's been pointed out.

You behave like a child, And constantly make these insulting dehumanizing statements and then our shocked! Absolutely shocked I say! The people insult you back

With every post you and your alter egos convince people more thoroughly that they should oppose trans rights at every turn.

Scott75 · January 9

Just now, Radiorum said:

I only have one account, too. I've just read through your posts, and know that you are coming from a good place.

I'm trying to understand the hatred. It's some kind of primitive territorialism, I think.

Sometimes, we see threats that are not there.

Apparently, this thinking that people have more accounts when they don't is fairly common amoung posters of a certain type. It reminds me of a post from an Admin in another forum who actually -allows- more than one account, in a thread where posters are trying to get rid of this feature. Quoting him:

**Just an FYI, there are fewer "sock" accounts than folks think there are.**

But some people just can't resist jumping to conclusions. Perhaps the best way to put it comes from a song I like:

"Some men, you just can't reach. So you get what we had here".

So it goes.

Radiorum · January 9

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

dismissing people's concerns as being invalid

But their concerns about transgender persons are invalid.

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Which is what has fuel the hatred so far. This whole thing began as a very simple and straightforward exchange but your "side" (which seems to be mostly the same person with multiple accounts) has expressly demanded that it be hostile. And that's been pointed out.

You behave like a child, And constantly make these insulting dehumanizing statements and then our shocked! Absolutely shocked I say! The people insult you back

With every post you and your alter egos convince people more thoroughly that they should oppose trans rights at every turn.

This response seems to support my contention that it is a matter of "You can't tell me!"

4 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

Apparently, this thinking that people have more accounts when they don't is fairly common amoung posters of a certain type.

They are really scared that someone will put something over on them. What an anxious way to live.

CdnFox · January 9

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But their concerns about transgender persons are invalid.

Saying that is about as bright as saying that transgenderism is just cosplay. And you prove again Where the hatred comes from. It comes from you, what you're seeing coming back is the reflection of that hatred

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This response seems to support my contention that it is a matter of "You can't tell me!"

You'd have to be seven different kind of stupid to come to that conclusion

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They are really scared that someone will put something over on them. What an anxious way to live.

No not really. They can see that there is an agenda and that it's a hate-filled bigoted agenda designed to take rights away from them to benefit others and they will take the appropriate steps to squash it. No anxiety at all.

8 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

Apparently, this thinking that people have more accounts when they don't is fairly common amoung posters of a certain type. It reminds me of a post from an Admin in another forum who actually -allows- more than one account, in a thread where posters are trying to get rid of this feature. Quoting him:

**Just an FYI, there are fewer "sock" accounts than folks think there are.**

But some people just can't resist jumping to conclusions. Perhaps the best way to put it comes from a song I like:

"Some men, you just can't reach. So you get what we had here".

So it goes.

Apparently denying it when it's true is even more common than that

The left does love its liars. And what better way to lie than to show up with two accounts and agree with yourself a lot

Radiorum · January 9

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

take rights away from them to benefit others

What specific right are you concerned about?

CdnFox · January 9

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

What specific right are you concerned about?

This has been gone over a million times. And considering that before even asking that question you already dismissed it as being invalid you've kind of closed the door to that conversation. Some would say that a thinking person would ask that before demanding that they're all invalid rather than after

You're a dishonest player kiddo. It's a shame that the trans community did not want to look for cooperative ways to work together to solve problems and instead prefers hostile relations rooted in hatred and dehumanization as you have demonstrated here.

But we can work with that too if that's how you want to play

Scott75 · January 9

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

8 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

18 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I only have one account, too. I've just read through your posts, and know that you are coming from a good place.

I'm trying to understand the hatred. It's some kind of primitive territorialism, I think.

Sometimes, we see threats that are not there.

Apparently, this thinking that people have more accounts when they don't is fairly common amoung posters of a certain type.

They are really scared that someone will put something over on them. What an anxious way to live.

I guess. The sad thing is that by jumping to conclusions, they only discredit their own powers of observation. I've taken a look at some of your posts in other threads and I see that we don't agree on everything. I wonder how long it'll take CdnFox to realize? Time will tell I guess :-p.

CdnFox · January 9

1 minute ago, Scott75 said:

I guess. The sad thing is that by jumping to conclusions, they only discredit their own powers of observation. I've taken a look at some of your posts in other threads and I see that we don't agree on everything. I wonder how long it'll take CdnFox to realize? Time will tell I guess :-p.

You're honestly just making yourself look worse

Radiorum · January 9

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

his has been gone over a million times. And considering that before even asking that question you already dismissed it as being invalid you've kind of closed the door to that conversation. Some would say that a thinking person would ask that before demanding that they're all invalid rather than after

You're a dishonest player kiddo. It's a shame that the trans community did not want to look for cooperative ways to work together to solve problems and instead prefers hostile relations rooted in hatred and dehumanization as you have demonstrated here.

But we can work with that too if that's how you want to play

Non-answer

CdnFox · January 9

11 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Non-answer

Yours you mean? Yes.

User · January 9

21 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yours you mean? Yes.

This thread is comical.

At this point, both of these folks have refused actually to engage on the actual subject and have spent pages trying to quibble about anything other than their defending their absurd positions.

Nationalist · January 9

6 hours ago, Scott75 said:

My whims have nothing to do with this. I've simply been pointing out that the definition of male and female, when used in the context of gender, has expanded for a great deal of people, and has reached places such as Wikipedia and even the legal system. And yes, I also think this is a good thing.

And I'm saying I disagree with the whole premise. You will never convince me it's a good idea to blur the line between man and woman.

Nationalist · January 9

6 hours ago, Scott75 said:

I'm glad that you at least recognize that Wikipedia is posting what I'm quoting. You can ofcourse ignore whatever I say as fantasy, but the Wikipedia posts are a solid sign that this is much larger than me. Even more important is the legal cases that have gone through the court system. As I have acknowledged in the past, what I suppose I could call the gender identity movement hasn't won every court battle, but I think they've been winning more than they've been losing and I see that trend continuing in the future. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how things will go if that trend continues.

The trend needs to be dismissed.

Scott75 · January 9

On 12/31/2024 at 8:30 AM, User said:

On 12/31/2024 at 4:22 AM, Scott75 said:

If my posts were so objectionable, I doubt I'd be getting so many responses to them. I believe you yourself said that I am pretty good at refraining from crass insults, which is something that many posters here struggle with.

Comparing folks to the KKK and accusing others of transphobia, you don't get to pretend like you are above the fray anymore. [insults removed]

I've never pretended I'm above the fray. I -have- kept my posts fairly civilized. Also, some posters have shown some behaviours that are reminiscent of some things that the KKK and other hate groups have done. That doesn't mean they -are- KKK members, and I'm glad that at least one poster here has pointed out that they're not fans of the KKK.

As to some posters here having transphobia, I stand by that. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think I may even have a bit, although I strive to lessen this in myself.

User · January 9

2 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

As to some posters here having transphobia, I stand by that. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I think I may even have a bit, although I strive to lessen this in myself.

Just as I stand by you being an ignorant a$$hole. Now, if only you would admit to that and seek to improve yourself.

Scott75 · January 9

On 12/31/2024 at 8:42 AM, Deluge said:

On 12/31/2024 at 4:18 AM, Scott75 said:

If by rights, you mean the right to be insulted, I suppose that's true. You certainly don't have any reservations in doing that by continuing to call transgender people trannies. Anyway, I found something that a good amount of transgender people are trying to achieve, which I strongly support:

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A major goal of transgender activism is to allow changes to identification documents to conform with a person's current gender identity without the need for gender-affirming surgery or any medical requirements, which is known as gender self-identification.^[1]^[2]^[3] It is part of the broader LGBT rights movements.

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Source:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_rights_movement

We may disagree on many things, but we essentially agree that transgender transition hormones/hormone blockers and surgery can be something that people can regret. If people could get the gender identity they want -without- having to do this, I think it could avoid situations of this nature.

Feeding the gender fantasy is never a good idea. It's best to identify all human beings by their sex: men and women, boys and girls - just like all societies have done throughout human history.

Trannies can truly go to hell on this one.

I strongly suspect that it's attitudes like yours that are one of the causes of traumas like the one User posted way back in post #627. Here's the video he posted:

Edited January 9 by Scott75

User · January 9

5 minutes ago, Scott75 said:

Attitudes like yours that I believe are one of the causes of traumas like the one User posted way back

Try watching the video next time. She certainly wasn't blaming people like us... it was people like you who are pushing this madness onto children who are the problem.