Sinwar Dead!

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11 minutes ago, User said:

Yeah, we played this dumb game before. You could never explain what that subjugation was. 

No, it's because you support whatever it is you think subjugation means - something benign apparently.

 

16 minutes ago, User said:

Yeah, we played this dumb game before too. What court will Hamas be tried in and who brings them to that court?

The same one Israel attends.

18 minutes ago, User said:

You offer these ignorant comments as a ruse.

What do you mean ruse?

Meanwhile you refuse to comment on things like the terrorism that helped create Israel or the subjugating policies imposed on the nearly 2 million people who already lived there. Who do you think you're kidding?

27 minutes ago, User said:

They had that on day 1. Ever since they have chosen war instead. 

The war started when terrorists attacked Palestinians long before day 1.

In any case don't you people like to maintain that Oct 7 is the new day 1?

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32 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Interesting. More territory than Gaza currently occupies?

If so, how much more territory?

I have no idea. I'm quite certain it'll be decades before anyone reaches the point where borders will be drawn.

There's a better chance the world will still be dealing with this mess centuries from now.

Good job our grandfathers did eh?

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19 minutes ago, Legato said:

You want a state of Palestine existing next to an Israeli state where the former wants everyone exterminated in the latter.

Nope, no more than I want the opposite of what you said.

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What a twisted state of mind you encompass.

Naw, that's just your own breath blowing back in your face. 

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I have no idea. I'm quite certain it'll be decades before anyone reaches the point where borders will be drawn.

There's a better chance the world will still be dealing with this mess centuries from now.

Good job our grandfathers did eh?

Our grandfathers should have relocated the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia. Problem solved.

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nope, no more than I want the opposite of what you said.

Naw, that's just your own breath blowing back in your face. 

So you want it both ways?

[User]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, it's because you support whatever it is you think subjugation means - something benign apparently.

Repeatedly asking you to define that meaningfully is not an issue with what I think; it is an issue with you. 

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The same one Israel attends.

Notice, you didn't actually answer the question fully here. This is what you do. You assert this gibberish and then you flounder when it is challenged. 

Who is going to bring Hamas to this court to face justice? How will they do it?

Israel does not "attend" any court, they are a signatory to the Geneva Convention not the ICC. 

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What do you mean ruse?

Exactly that. You claim you want Hamas brought up on charges for their war crimes... but it is a meaningless statement as there is no enforcement mechanism to do so. The result is that Hamas keeps killing Israeli people. 

That is why I rightly accuse you of supporting them doing so. 

15 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Meanwhile you refuse to comment on things like the terrorism that helped create Israel or the subjugating policies imposed on the nearly 2 million people who already lived there. Who do you think you're kidding?

You have yet to define what this subjugation is. 

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The war started when terrorists attacked Palestinians long before day 1.

Why don't you tell me what the very first thing is that you think started this that somehow today justifies Hamas killing Israel civilians, raping, and torturing them. 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Legato said:

Our grandfathers should have relocated the Palestinians to Saudi Arabia. Problem solved.

No, they should have welcomed Jewish refugees from Europe. Instead of saying go back they said go somewhere else, Palestine. Problem multiplied... exponentially.

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23 minutes ago, User said:

Repeatedly asking you to define that meaningfully is not an issue with what I think; it is an issue with you. 

Clearly it's an issue with you. So is providing your own definition apparently.

I go with Mirriam Webster's myself.

to bring under control and governance as a subject : conquer. 2. : to make submissive : subdue. subjugation. ˌsəb-ji-ˈgā-shən.

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1 hour ago, Legato said:

So you want it both ways?

No, I don't want your breath blowing in my face at all.

[Legato]

31 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, they should have welcomed Jewish refugees from Europe. Instead of saying go back they said go somewhere else, Palestine. Problem multiplied... exponentially.

You said you wanted a Palestinian sate along side Israel. make up your mind.

 

Just now, eyeball said:

No, I don't want your breath blowing in my face at all.

Then stop exposing yourself to ridicule.

[User]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Clearly it's an issue with you. So is providing your own definition apparently.

I go with Mirriam Webster's myself.

to bring under control and governance as a subject : conquer. 2. : to make submissive : subdue. subjugation. ˌsəb-ji-ˈgā-shən.

Now, how did Israel do this that you are talking about?

You just going to ignore the rest, like you did last time you made all these dumb and dishonest arguments?

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2 minutes ago, Legato said:

You said you wanted a Palestinian sate along side Israel. make up your mind.

That's right I did. When that finally sinks in perhaps you can ask yourself why our grandfathers refused to accept Jewish refugees from Europe.

 

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

Then stop exposing yourself to ridicule.

Ah so this is just about me is it?

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3 minutes ago, User said:

Now, how did Israel do this that you are talking about?

So you do agree with my definition of the word subjugation after all. Instead of implying I didn't weeks or months ago why didn't you just say so in the first place?

Because you're a dishonest bad faith debater who couldn't bring yourself to say you support it. Maybe you think your honesty would be too politically impolite or something.

You see the same lack of courage and conviction a lot with you people.

 

[cannuck]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's right I did. When that finally sinks in perhaps you can ask yourself why our grandfathers refused to accept Jewish refugees from Europe.

Amazing how many people ignore that fact.  Unfortunately, it is a lot more complicated as Jews have been connected to Israel for 3,000 years now.  IMHO: the real question is how far back does any previous occupier's claim go???

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14 minutes ago, User said:

You just going to ignore the rest, like you did last time you made all these dumb and dishonest arguments?

What dishonesty? If you're saying the historical record of Israel's creation is wrong perhaps you could explain why it contains so many references to Zionist terrorism.

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

What dishonesty? If you're saying the historical record of Israel's creation is wrong perhaps you could explain why it contains so many references to Zionist terrorism.

The dishonesty in that you completely ignored most of my response to your previous bogus assertions and arguments and here you are yet again, vaguely citing Israels creation with no specifics. 

I ask again here, and numerous times the last time we discussed this, what specifically are you talking about. 

 

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1 minute ago, cannuck said:

Amazing how many people ignore that fact.

It's more sad than anything.

Acknowledgement is the hardest part of truth and reconciliation.

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Just now, User said:

The dishonesty in that you completely ignored most of my response to your previous bogus assertions and arguments

What do you mean bogus?

Start with subjugation, maybe once you get past that the rest will sink in.

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, eyeball said:

For every solution there's a new set of problems. Who will Israel negotiate with if the leaders in a position to negotiate are all dead?

 

Who said anything about negotiating with any terrorists, The people of palestine will make that decision in the coming days...and we will see if it is for peace or more conflict...

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5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Who said anything about negotiating...

A number of media sources.

[User]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What do you mean bogus?

Start with subjugation, maybe once you get past that the rest will sink in.

Here you go again, still playing your dishonest games. 

YOU start with explaining what subjugation happened you are talking about. 

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

No, I'm one of those people who want to see Palestine on the map alongside Israel.

Gaza is already recognized as it own state, the People of Gaza elected Hamas as their represented government, knowing from the start they were a terrorist organization..... can we get a amen...AMEN !!!!! Anyone that supports them is SUPPORTING a terrorist group.....whos only goal in life is to see the destruction of Israel, men women and children......None of those so call palestinians want to live beside Israel they want to destroy israel and take the land given to them by the UN ...as their own....

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19 minutes ago, User said:

YOU start with explaining what subjugation happened you are talking about. 

Why? You've made it patently clear you won't accept anything I have to say on the topic. Go ask a Palestinian from the 1940's.

Then put yourself in their shoes and come explain why you'd submit to it.

[CITIZEN_2015]

Sinwar was sent to hell. Well done Israel. Now is time for Israel to go after the head of octopus in Tehran. For as long as we have a coward in Washington. this is not very likely but when Trump comes in 3 months then Israel must do same with the leaders of Islamic Republic or they will never rest in peace.

Edited October 18, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

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23 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Anyone that supports them is SUPPORTING a terrorist group.....

So does anyone who supports the manner in which Israel was created. What's your point? Terrorism comes in different flavors or something?

 

 

[User]

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why? You've made it patently clear you won't accept anything I have to say on the topic. Go ask a Palestinian from the 1940's.

Then put yourself in their shoes and come explain why you'd submit to it.

LOL, as I thought, you can sit here in this thread for days bantering with your baseless assertions, ignorance, and depraved support for terrorism... but once again, we git to the meat and potatoes of you supporting the garbage you say and you run away. 

 

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

So does anyone who supports the manner in which Israel was created. What's your point? Terrorism comes in different flavors or something?

 

 

I think the point here is that you are too cowardly to own what it is you really support here.