Your thoughts on the next Federal Government.

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You can't act like this isn't bothering you, which is why you keep replying. We both know it.

Sure Kid 😊

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55 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Sure

Petrified. 

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Petrified. 

oh absolutely!!!!!

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[Guest]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

oh absolutely!!!!!

You know it, too 😀

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

You know it, too 😀

Sure Kid 😊

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[I am Groot]

On 9/25/2024 at 9:00 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

I don't know where this CPC minority idea comes from. The seat count for the CPC is predicted to be 220 seats. That is one of the largest majorities in history. It rivals Diefenbaker and Mulroney's super majorities. The CPC has maintaines over 200 seats since Feb. 11, 2024 and is unlikely to drop below 200 before an election 11 months from now.

An early election is not in any party's interest except for the CPC. 

There will be no conservative minority government. In the event of them not getting a majority of seats the Liberals will combine with the NDP/and or the BQ to form the government.

[I am Groot]

On 9/25/2024 at 12:37 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

When it come to actual voting many Canadians will think twice before giving a blank cheque to Conservatives. Many remember the dark days of Harper majority government.

What 'dark days' do you refer to?

 

On 9/25/2024 at 12:37 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Liberals already taken concrete steps to curb student visa and temporary workers which was of deep concern to many Canadians and much more is needed.

The student cuts are temporary. They even said so. Just for two years. They have done virtually nothing to curb foreign workers. In fact, they have mused aloud that the best way to lower the number of temporary workers is to make them all permanent. It's clear that is their preference by their popularity and the nearness of an election preclude this happening yet. They want to give foreign temporary agricultural workers permanent residency status. Which is moronic given they would then just leave the farms and go to work in the cities and we'd need to bring in more temporary foreign farm workers. They have flat-out refused to lower immigration numbers. They have completely ignored the high and rising number of asylum claimants, virtually ALL of which will either be accepted or simply stay.

Housing is going to get even more scarce as we continue to bring in more people than we are building housing for. Carbon taxes will continue to grow. As will unemployment.

 

[I am Groot]

On 9/26/2024 at 6:11 AM, Michael Hardner said:

He's not Conservative, he's a faux populist.  Calling him a Tory is a mislabelling, as that tradition ended when he took the leadership.  There's no paternal, royalist nobility here or even a belief that the elite will take care of the peasants.

I don't think you actually understand what a conservative is. Oh, yes, I get the historical origins. But for centuries now, certainly in Canada, being conservative was synonymous with being careful. It means not rushing pell-mell into changes without being sure they won't make things worse. It means government that does what needs to be done by government and not much else, ensuring order and security for both people and business, balancing the books, prioritizing what needs doing, and preserving - or conserving - the historical traditions, values, and institutions of the nation. 

And I dislike this 'populist' nonsense that is constantly being applied to conservative parties but never to left/liberal parties. If Poilievre is a populist so is Trudeau. Trudeau, in fact, is even more of a faux populist since he clearly doesn't really believe in all that social justice garbage he spews. 

On 9/26/2024 at 6:11 AM, Michael Hardner said:

From his telling, he'll fire bureaucrats then sell the CBC and we'll all have gold overfilling our pockets...

I think you're deliberately simplifying his message.

A new tory ad just dropped.

 

[I am Groot]

On 9/26/2024 at 11:23 PM, herbie said:

He's a populist pseudo-consrvative. Pandering to every malcontent who'll pad his chances

And how is that worse than Trudeau? Other than Trudeau is a pseudo-liberal pandering to every malcontent who'll pad his chances? His election campaigns rely entirely on buying votes, divisiveness, and scaremongering, and he pushes his divisive social justice garbage on everyone to virtue signal to identity groups he hopes to get votes for. I doubt he even believes any of it.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

And how is that worse than Trudeau? Other than Trudeau is a pseudo-liberal pandering to every malcontent who'll pad his chances? His election campaigns rely entirely on buying votes, divisiveness, and scaremongering, and he pushes his divisive social justice garbage on everyone to virtue signal to identity groups he hopes to get votes for. I doubt he even believes any of it.

Populist is a word the left has tried to harness to mean 'right wing person i don't like".   As you noted earlier Polievre is a "populist" but some how justin is not in their minds. 

The word was supposed to mean essentially 'someone who promises what people want without any intent of delivering". You ride in on popular issues then do nothing. 

Polievre pretty much guaranteed will be taking the actions he says he will.  Justin has broken just about every promise he's made except for one (dope). 

 

[CITIZEN_2015]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

What 'dark days' do you refer to?

 

The student cuts are temporary. They even said so. Just for two years. They have done virtually nothing to curb foreign workers. In fact, they have mused aloud that the best way to lower the number of temporary workers is to make them all permanent. It's clear that is their preference by their popularity and the nearness of an election preclude this happening yet. They want to give foreign temporary agricultural workers permanent residency status. Which is moronic given they would then just leave the farms and go to work in the cities and we'd need to bring in more temporary foreign farm workers. They have flat-out refused to lower immigration numbers. They have completely ignored the high and rising number of asylum claimants, virtually ALL of which will either be accepted or simply stay.

Housing is going to get even more scarce as we continue to bring in more people than we are building housing for. Carbon taxes will continue to grow. As will unemployment.

 

There are plenty. And it was exactly for those reasons that Harper's huge majority in 2011 was wiped out in 2015 after 4 years of Harper majority into a Liberal majority.

Yes I very much oppose Liberal immigration policies but I don't wish to give a blank cheque. Minority governments do a lot better

[taxme]

On 9/24/2024 at 10:31 PM, CdnFox said:

that's extremely plausible. Jagmeet, who actually is in danger of losing in his riding, will have his pension by then. He gets it in February. It's to the ndp's advantage to go before the final date on the budget will almost certainly give them something to pretend to be outraged about.

The fly in the ointment to your theory is the bloc. There is absolutely zero benefit to them to go to an election. They will want to stretch out their power as long and as far as they can. They will almost certainly use the time to squeeze what few concessions they can out of the liberals. Then they will force the Conservatives to commit to keeping whatever they get if they're elected and sell themselves as the saviors of Quebec.

For that reason I'm going to say it will probably go the whole distance and we'll see a fall election 2025. The block will almost certainly prop up the liberals unless the liberals refuse to give them anything. And the NDP in the conservatives can't take down the government unless the block says yes

Call it a 30% chance for a spring election and 70% chance for a fall election

What is Canada even doing allowing a french separatist party have seats in Ottawa? They should never have been giving any parliamentary seats in Ottawa because they only represent the french in Quebec. They will never become the minority or majority government in Canada ever because no one outside Quebec will be voting for the Bloc. They are just a painful thorn in the side of English Canada and are having fun digging even deeper. Phk off, quebec. Works for me. 

[taxme]

On 9/25/2024 at 6:00 AM, Queenmandy85 said:

I don't know where this CPC minority idea comes from. The seat count for the CPC is predicted to be 220 seats. That is one of the largest majorities in history. It rivals Diefenbaker and Mulroney's super majorities. The CPC has maintaines over 200 seats since Feb. 11, 2024 and is unlikely to drop below 200 before an election 11 months from now.

An early election is not in any party's interest except for the CPC. 

The Marxist liberals and NDP will never give up their power over Canada until the next election. But until then, we must all now suffer another year of this Marxist madness that is Canada today. Canada can be one of the wealthiest countries in the world if it were not for those bumbling Marxist idi0ts in Ottawa that want to make sure that Canada never sees it's potential. Canada should be a debt free country today with Canadians having thousands of dollars, if not more, in their bank accounts today. 

Now if you will excuse me, i have to go write another check out to the Marxist government of Canada for money owing. Every year i always owe them money. There has to be something wrong with this Canadian picture. 😒 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

What is Canada even doing allowing a french separatist party have seats in Ottawa? They should never have been giving any parliamentary seats in Ottawa because they only represent the french in Quebec. They will never become the minority or majority government in Canada ever because no one outside Quebec will be voting for the Bloc. They are just a painful thorn in the side of English Canada and are having fun digging even deeper. Phk off, quebec. Works for me. 

the original constitution didn't envision that happening and there's no law against it. .So you couldnt' stop it without changing the constitution.  Bit of a problem with that seeing as quebec gets a say in that  

[Old Guy]

On 9/24/2024 at 4:25 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

My thoughts. Trudeau government will be defeated in a non confidence vote in the spring of 2025. There will be  a Federal election in April or May of 2025 and a minority Conservative government will be elected which will last one to two years. Your thoughts if you care to share?

I hope your right. Given a majority the PP (professional politician) Pierre Poilievre is liable to go off the rails and turn us into a crypto nation where the rich can steal more easily. What an Elitist wonk he is. Yeah but Trudeau must go.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There are plenty. And it was exactly for those reasons that Harper's huge majority in 2011 was wiped out in 2015 after 4 years of Harper majority into a Liberal majority.

Soo.... you don't actually remember anything?

2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Yes I very much oppose Liberal immigration policies but I don't wish to give a blank cheque. Minority governments do a lot better

There will be no conservative minority government. Unless they have a majority the Liberals and NDP, maybe with the help of the BQ  will form a government without them and continue the existing policies. The Liberals and NDP have already said as much. 

Edited September 29, 2024 by I am Groot

[Guest]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Populist is a word the left

Here we go again 🤡

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Polievre pretty much guaranteed will be taking the actions he says he will. 

Not if he doesn't get voted in.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Here we go again 🤡

Awww - you butthurt bro? I know you don't like me making fun of your fellow lefites  

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Not if he doesn't get voted in

True or if he does and is shot by a radical leftie before he takes office or if aliens take over the world or the like. 

But from a practical point of view despite your hopes to the contrary he's going to get in. 

[Old Guy]

5 hours ago, taxme said:

The Marxist liberals and NDP will never give up their power over Canada until the next election.

Duh that's typically how politics work. There is an election and the winner forms a government. Parties don't give up power they lose it in an election. And BTW do you know what a Marxism is or what a marxist government would look like or perhaps you've just heard it down at your local. 

 

5 hours ago, taxme said:

Canada can be one of the wealthiest countries in the world if it were not for those bumbling Marxist idi0ts in Ottawa that want to make sure that Canada never sees it's potential.

According to this list Canada ranks 23rd out of fifty of the richest countries in the world.  Read the short descriptor on the side to give some context to why, for example Luxemburg is ranked as number 1.   Premier Lougheed of Alberta visited Norway to study how the Norwegian's set up their sovereign wealth fund. He tried something similar but successive Conservative governments  squandered it away. Here is a video on how Norway handled it's natural resources. Norway's sovereign wealth fund stands at 1.7 Trillion dollars. Government can use no more than 3% of the funds earnings for social programs which is currently estimated at 33 billion dollars annually. These means that politicians can't buy votes.  Oh and their government is a parliamentary democracy and the state owns a share of the natural resources.

[taxme]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

the original constitution didn't envision that happening and there's no law against it. .So you couldnt' stop it without changing the constitution.  Bit of a problem with that seeing as quebec gets a say in that  

The Constitution is nothing more than a piece of nothingness just like the Charter of Rights. Both of those are being used to attack our rights and freedoms here in Canada.They can be interpreted anyway this present day Marxist government in power wants to interpret both.

There are still two truck drivers in Coutts, Alberta, that even though they have been aqquitted of their so called crime, the federal Marxists won't let them out. Their COR has been violated and the COR has done nothing to help free them from their gulag. If anyone is of a conservative freedom loving nature they are targets for the liberal Marxist government in Ottawa. There is even a law that is now being discussed in Ottawa by the Marxists in Ottawa where peaceful demonstrations will not be allowed, unless of course it is some leftist liberal peaceful march. 

Quebec gets to say and do whatever it wants too. Quebec runs and rules English Canada. The french Marxists from Quebec have been running English Canada for several decades now. And the sad part is that English Canada sits back and says nothing. English Canada is full of cowards and followers. English Canada has no leaders anymore, if we ever had any at all. Canada sucks these days. Just my opinion. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

The Constitution is nothing more than a piece of nothingness just like the Charter of Rights. Both of those are being used to attack our rights and freedoms here in Canada.They can be interpreted anyway this present day Marxist government in power wants to interpret both.

There are still two truck drivers in Coutts, Alberta, that even though they have been aqquitted of their so called crime, the federal Marxists won't let them out. Their COR has been violated and the COR has done nothing to help free them from their gulag. If anyone is of a conservative freedom loving nature they are targets for the liberal Marxist government in Ottawa. There is even a law that is now being discussed in Ottawa by the Marxists in Ottawa where peaceful demonstrations will not be allowed, unless of course it is some leftist liberal peaceful march. 

Quebec gets to say and do whatever it wants too. Quebec runs and rules English Canada. The french Marxists from Quebec have been running English Canada for several decades now. And the sad part is that English Canada sits back and says nothing. English Canada is full of cowards and followers. English Canada has no leaders anymore, if we ever had any at all. Canada sucks these days. Just my opinion. 

Not saying you're wrong but unfortunately it's what we've got. There has to be a common agreement on what is or is not rights or else it's just he said she saidthe majority mob will rule with whatever they feel is appropriate at that time

For rights to have value remaining they have to be granted authority under law and a sovereign nation were they simply don't exist for practical purposes even though they may exist for moral purposes.

So until we can change that document we're stuck with it

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10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not saying you're wrong

....But you're wrong because you're not agreeing with me. 🤡

[taxme]

19 hours ago, Old Guy said:

Duh that's typically how politics work. There is an election and the winner forms a government. Parties don't give up power they lose it in an election. And BTW do you know what a Marxism is or what a marxist government would look like or perhaps you've just heard it down at your local. 

 

According to this list Canada ranks 23rd out of fifty of the richest countries in the world.  Read the short descriptor on the side to give some context to why, for example Luxemburg is ranked as number 1.   Premier Lougheed of Alberta visited Norway to study how the Norwegian's set up their sovereign wealth fund. He tried something similar but successive Conservative governments  squandered it away. Here is a video on how Norway handled it's natural resources. Norway's sovereign wealth fund stands at 1.7 Trillion dollars. Government can use no more than 3% of the funds earnings for social programs which is currently estimated at 33 billion dollars annually. These means that politicians can't buy votes.  Oh and their government is a parliamentary democracy and the state owns a share of the natural resources.

 

19 hours ago, Old Guy said:

Duh that's typically how politics work. There is an election and the winner forms a government. Parties don't give up power they lose it in an election. And BTW do you know what a Marxism is or what a marxist government would look like or perhaps you've just heard it down at your local. 

 

According to this list Canada ranks 23rd out of fifty of the richest countries in the world.  Read the short descriptor on the side to give some context to why, for example Luxemburg is ranked as number 1.   Premier Lougheed of Alberta visited Norway to study how the Norwegian's set up their sovereign wealth fund. He tried something similar but successive Conservative governments  squandered it away. Here is a video on how Norway handled it's natural resources. Norway's sovereign wealth fund stands at 1.7 Trillion dollars. Government can use no more than 3% of the funds earnings for social programs which is currently estimated at 33 billion dollars annually. These means that politicians can't buy votes.  Oh and their government is a parliamentary democracy and the state owns a share of the natural resources.

The name Marxism was derived from a well known communist named Karl Marx. I am well aware of what Marxism/communism is all about. Why don't you go to countries like Cuba, China or North Korea to find out what Marxism/communism is really all about. Who knows, maybe you will like it and want to stay. But there you will not find any websites like this one out in the open. 

Canada should be #2 in the world, just behind America, if it were not for the Marxists/communists that control our lives and our governments today. We are a wealthy nation full of resources and hard working people, but it is those Marxists that do not want Canada to succeed. They instead prefer to turn Canada into a welfare state. Every Canadian today should be debt free, along with Canada, if it were not for the communists politicians that steal our money and blow it on useless Marxist woke programs and agendas that help to make Canada poor, and not rich. 

If we here in Canada had more freedom, less government and less taxes, i would not be sitting here right now. I would be getting ready to go to my condo in some nice warm part of the world. 

In Alaska, every citizen gets a nice big check worth thousands from the government from their oil industry. But here in Canada, we get to send checks to our Marxist government in Ottawa instead.  What a deal, eh? 

[Old Guy]

Please have a look at some actual data America is not the richest country per/capita

 

 

[August1991]

11 hours ago, Old Guy said:

Please have a look at some actual data America is not the richest country per/capita

 

 

Disagree. Define "richest".

But not the issue of this thread.