Why is the cult-mob playing into the hands of the worst totalitarian thugs on the planet? What's in it for them?

[myata]

Why would he or anyone do something like that though? What's in it, for him and his cult? How can we get into his head? There's a natural explanation that is based on the records and facts: the ego. The hot p*ss of greatness and power that overpowered and eclipsed all else, including the last drops of decency that may have remained.

This is how the thinking may go. He knows that Vlad-the-thug or whoever is walking and wobbling him, need a break, and quite urgently. They exhausted their resources, their criminal project is not going anywhere, and the discontent inside, however well they are working to deflect, manage and/or suppress it, has been rising. Vlad needs that quasi- tortured parody of "peace" and actually is in a dare, almost desperate need of it. And this is the opportunity of greatness the egomaniac smells like emanations off a hot pile of sh*t.

Of course he has no intent of an honest negotiation because it doesn't exist in the rational universe: there's no common ground or even language for negotiations with hitlers. It's easy and it's historical and factual: every day that they are allowed to stand, the sane world loses. There's no place for them in the normal sane world, its present and future.

But he doesn't know and couldn't care less. The only thing that matters is the balance sh*t of the ego. So he thinks, he would take Vlads terms and with the sheer weight of his a$$ and complete and accomplished moral ambivalence, no scratch that, an absolute and total vacuum of any ethics or morals, press and force the free people into submission. Making him an instant "victor", "peacemaker" and whoever else for the whole term and then.. no seriously, who could tell what could happen then, in that option of the possible futures?

Destroying any remnants, whatever still remains of the international law and rules in the process. Why wouldn't Vlad, or Xi or anyone having their hand and blessing, do that again, and again, always and to the end of time itself? What would be there to stop them? That thought and responsibility just isn't a factor for the bunch. They simply don't exist, not a part of the picture. The power, all of it and by any means is. Now, who could say it's only some musings?

[User]

Are we talking about how Biden and Harris played into the hands of Maduro?

Or wait... is it how Biden and Harris continue to play into the hands of Iran?

 

 

[User]

Oh... I know. Is it how Biden and Harris played into the hands of the Taliban and have no regrets now that millions of women are back in the home where they belong, no longer going to school and having to wear full coverings?

Is it those totalitarian thugs?

 

[impartialobserver]

Hmmm.. expecting a civilized discussion when you start with this ^^^^.  I know what your response will be. In short.. because person xyz (myself in this case) does not see it in the same way, they are ignorant, has their head in the sand, and is lacking intelligence. Unsolicited advice.. if you want someone to actually engage in a conversation, you have to move beyond this. I get it.. you do not like Trump. Neither do I. 

[myata]

Well one is free to create alternate realities the way they like there's nothing new in it. But there's a very factual group of people these days that is taking the words of one well-known fascist dictator thug right off his tongue and broadcasting them as their "plans". The eyes and the brain, when they are in a working order just couldn't be misled. Trust them: they have evolved, over billions of years, for a reason.

[myata]

8 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Unsolicited advice.. if you want someone to actually engage in a conversation, you have to move beyond this.

Thank you for your advice. However I'm not looking to recruit anybody to anything; nor to convert anyone. There's the reality and reason. We see is, we hear them, it's a fact and I would like to understand their motives: what could drive someone to parrot the agendas and points of the thugs of the worst kind, modern hitlers, why less and how not?

So this is a conjecture, hypothesis. Is it plausible? yes I think so because it happened before, so it has ground, in history and psychology. Can it be wrong? Yes I'll admit to that, given convincing arguments. But we cannot afford to ignore the reality, to undermine and discount its seriousness. This has never happened in America and with America, it's the first and we absolutely should see it and understand it for what it is.

Edited September 18, 2024 by myata

[impartialobserver]

Just now, myata said:

Thank you for your advice. However I'm not looking to recruit anybody to anything; nor to convert anyone. There's the reality and reason. We see is, we hear them, it's a fact and I would like to understand their motives: what could drive someone to parrot the agendas and points of the thugs of the worst kind, modern hitlers, why less and how not?

So this is a conjecture, hypothesis. Is it plausible? yes I think so because it happened before, so it has ground, in history and psychology. Can it be wrong? Yes I'll admit to that, given convincing arguments. But we cannot afford to ignore the reality, to undermine and discount its seriousness. This has never happened in America and with America, it's the first and we absolutely should see it and understand it for what it is.

Your post is subjective and therefore expecting someone to see it the same way is simply not realistic. 

[myata]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

Your post is subjective and therefore expecting someone to see it the same way is simply not realistic. 

And I'm not hiding it, here:

"How can we get into his head? There's a natural explanation that is based on the records and facts":

"This is how the thinking may go"

The rest is facts. If you don't like my explanation, feel free to come with your own that is compatible with the facts. Argue with me if you like, I'll hear all reasonable arguments. What I insist you, me or anyone with a functioning brain could not do is to simply dismiss it as some noise, like nothing is happening. Something has happened here. It's in the reality and it's right in front of our eyes.

[robosmith]

48 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Hmmm.. expecting a civilized discussion when you start with this ^^^^.  I know what your response will be. In short.. because person xyz (myself in this case) does not see it in the same way, they are ignorant, has their head in the sand, and is lacking intelligence. Unsolicited advice.. if you want someone to actually engage in a conversation, you have to move beyond this. I get it.. you do not like Trump. Neither do I. 

You (maybe) could answer the questions in the OP.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Why would he or anyone do something like that though? What's in it, for him and his cult? How can we get into his head? There's a natural explanation that is based on the records and facts: the ego. The hot p*ss of greatness and power that overpowered and eclipsed all else, including the last drops of decency that may have remained.

This is how the thinking may go. He knows that Vlad-the-thug or whoever is walking and wobbling him, need a break, and quite urgently. They exhausted their resources, their criminal project is not going anywhere, and the discontent inside, however well they are working to deflect, manage and/or suppress it, has been rising. Vlad needs that quasi- tortured parody of "peace" and actually is in a dare, almost desperate need of it. And this is the opportunity of greatness the egomaniac smells like emanations off a hot pile of sh*t.

Of course he has no intent of an honest negotiation because it doesn't exist in the rational universe: there's no common ground or even language for negotiations with hitlers. It's easy and it's historical and factual: every day that they are allowed to stand, the sane world loses. There's no place for them in the normal sane world, its present and future.

But he doesn't know and couldn't care less. The only thing that matters is the balance sh*t of the ego. So he thinks, he would take Vlads terms and with the sheer weight of his a$$ and complete and accomplished moral ambivalence, no scratch that, an absolute and total vacuum of any ethics or morals, press and force the free people into submission. Making him an instant "victor", "peacemaker" and whoever else for the whole term and then.. no seriously, who could tell what could happen then, in that option of the possible futures?

Destroying any remnants, whatever still remains of the international law and rules in the process. Why wouldn't Vlad, or Xi or anyone having their hand and blessing, do that again, and again, always and to the end of time itself? What would be there to stop them? That thought and responsibility just isn't a factor for the bunch. They simply don't exist, not a part of the picture. The power, all of it and by any means is. Now, who could say it's only some musings?

You might check out "Autocracy, Inc.: The Dictators Who Want to Run the World" by Ann Applebaum for answers to some of your questions as to why birds of an autocratic feather flock together.

Basically they must destroy democracy worldwide to survive and keep their power.

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You (maybe) could answer the questions in the OP.

The op is insane and so are his posts. 

Which means you're the only one who even understands it. The rest of us don't speak Gibberish. 

[myata]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Basically they must destroy democracy worldwide to survive and keep their power.

That sounds plausible. With the way information spreads in the modern world, their only hope for the long-term survival can be to quench it at the source. And that's why Vlads won't stop coming. And playing into their hands, is either sheer madness, or a deliberate plan. But we know it, right?

Edited September 18, 2024 by myata

[User]

11 minutes ago, myata said:

That sounds plausible. With the way information spreads in the modern world, their only hope for the long-term survival can be to quench it at the source. And that's why Vlads won't stop coming. And playing into their hands, is either sheer madness, or a deliberate plan. But we know it, right?

You guys on the left are the ones who support limiting and attacking free speech. 

[myata]

Fascist and fascist-thug friendly versions of the speech certainly need to be known and brought to the attention of the society. We know what can happen when they are ignored and shrugged off. Some of the admirers of such corrupted and contorted expression simply can't stand it when their sympathies and attractions are brought into the light.

All the more reasons to do so. We cannot ignore such matters. And we cannot forget.

[myata]

Directly associating with this sort of abysmal evil, voicing openly its plans is agendas is wrong from all perspectives: moral, rational, safety and security. There can be no explanations or excuses: they simply do not exist. It never happened in America because her citizens had values, principles, reason, responsibility and traditions. And now, the future of democracy is in the hands of this generation. Democracy needs and depends on citizens of reason, principles and responsibility. Freedom is not free.

[Rebound]

On 9/18/2024 at 1:24 PM, User said:

Are we talking about how Biden and Harris played into the hands of Maduro?

Or wait... is it how Biden and Harris continue to play into the hands of Iran?

 

 

Has nothing to do with Vlad and Xi, who are the actual threats.  Iran and Venezuela cannot harm the U.S. militarily and the best way to neutralize them is to extract more U.S. petroleum while simultaneously investing heavily in the alternative energy technology which will eventually bring them to their knees.  

[User]

15 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Has nothing to do with Vlad and Xi, who are the actual threats.  Iran and Venezuela cannot harm the U.S. militarily and the best way to neutralize them is to extract more U.S. petroleum while simultaneously investing heavily in the alternative energy technology which will eventually bring them to their knees.  

Iran has been harming US military and our Allies for decades. 

I was in Iraq when they were providing material aid to the insurgents to kill us. Giving them places to train, providing them weapons technology to defeat our armor... they have continued to fund and provide weapons to the regional terrorist proxies throughout the middle east that threat our forces and kill them to this day. 

 

[myata]

You can't fight all wars at once. It would be higher risk and unproductive. Some adversaries can be contained while others need to be stopped and/or defeated. No one is dumb enough to open hostilities with everyone on the slightest prompt. And so, there's a difference between smart policy and open giving in to the enemy. No one has sided with Iran, North Korea or Venezuela. But these facts and stories we see and read we come terribly close to open association with the enemy: helping him and collaborating with him, for personal gain. Why would anyone, in the right state of the reason and conscience want to do that, ever?

Edited September 20, 2024 by myata