Kamala Harris believed at one time police should not answer 911 calls.

[WestCanMan]

DirBi logic: Kamala randomly solicited for donations to a bail fund in Minnesota but it was just to help normal criminals, not the rioters. 

Right, and Hunter hangs out in brothels just to do daycare for the hookers there, then he donates gobs of money for baby shoes and the like, but the hookers there don't do give him Kamala's "Willie Brown special". 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

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So, what was done outside of the law here?

The whole taking a gun to a riot to safeguard private property thing.

 

But the law allows for that. How is it outside the law if it's legal?

[User]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's a common idiom describing the vigilante mindset.

So, another circular argument... he is a vigilante because he is a vigilante. 

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The whole taking a gun to a riot to safeguard private property thing.

Those are all lawful things to do within the law. 

3 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No you're a genital obsessed freak for constantly going on about imaginary "fake vaginas" in every single thread.

Imaginary?! This was you:

"Transwomen can have vaginas dummy."

 

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, User said:

So, another circular argument... he is a vigilante because he is a vigilante. 

He's a vigilante because he meets the definition of a vigilante, that's how definitions work, stupid. What the f*ck do you think a vigilante is?

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Imaginary?! This was you:

"Transwomen can have vaginas dummy."

 

Yeah that's a general statement and a true one, but not what I was talking about. Try again you dishonest hack.

[User]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

He's a vigilante because he meets the definition of a vigilante, that's how definitions work, stupid. What the f*ck do you think a vigilante is?

So, circular argument again... 

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah that's a general statement and a true one, but not what I was talking about. Try again you dishonest hack.

So, you think a transwoman's vagina is real? ROFL

 Your boyfriend is your princess and you are suspending reality to make that fake vagina real for you... 

[Black Dog]

10 minutes ago, User said:

So, circular argument again... 

That's not what a circular argument is dumbass.

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So, you think a transwoman's vagina is real? ROFL

Well they aren't imaginary. The word you're looking for but are too stupid to grasp is "natural".

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 Your boyfriend is your princess and you are suspending reality to make that fake vagina real for you... 

You're talking about suspending reality while inventing entire fictional backstories for people you don't know? Pretty f*ckin' weird!

Edited August 26, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

Just now, Black Dog said:

That's not what a circular argument is dumbass.

Yes, it is. You don't bother explaining why... you just assert he is a vigilante because he is a vigilante. 

Just now, Black Dog said:

Well they aren't imaginary. The word you're looking for but too stupid to grasp is "natural".

No, I have been calling them fake this whole time. However, I can see you are really sensitive about what we call your boyfriends fake vagina. So, what do you call it then, unnatural vagina?

LOL

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

You're talking about suspending reality while inventing entire fictional backstories for people you don't know? Pretty f*ckin' weird!

You seem pretty worked up about what we call this fake vagina for it to be fictional. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

Yes, it is. You don't bother explaining why... you just assert he is a vigilante because he is a vigilante. 

I gave you several definitions of vigilante and explained how he met the criteria set down in those definitions. Your response was essentially that the definitions are wrong lol. You don't have an actual counterargument. 

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No, I have been calling them fake this whole time. However, I can see you are really sensitive about what we call your boyfriends fake vagina. So, what do you call it then, unnatural vagina?

Again, inventing entire fictional narratives for total strangers because you're triggered by the concept of plastic surgery is peak weirdo behaviour. I'd recommend a nice long nap in the garage with the door closed and the car running.

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You seem pretty worked up about what we call this fake vagina for it to be fictional. 

 

And you are pretty obsessed given how many times you've posted that particular combination of words.

[User]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

I gave you several definitions of vigilante and explained how he met the criteria set down in those definitions. Your response was essentially that the definitions are wrong lol. You don't have an actual counterargument. 

No, you just posted the definition and said he met it. This specific discussion point started with your absurd comment that he acted outside of the law... but you can't say how. 

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Again, inventing entire fictional narratives for total strangers because you're triggered by the concept of plastic surgery is peak weirdo behaviour. I'd recommend a nice long nap in the garage with the door closed and the car running.

So, what do you call your boyfriend's fake vagina?

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

And you are pretty obsessed given how many times you've posted that particular combination of words.

You wanted the forum to know all about this. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

No, you just posted the definition and said he met it. This specific discussion point started with your absurd comment that he acted outside of the law... but you can't say how. 

He was a private citizen who took it upon himself to go out and try to do the cops' job without any authority to do so. Again, that's the dictionary definition of vigilante. Your crying about the dictionary again.

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So, what do you call your boyfriend's fake vagina?

Do you think doubling down on this weird shit is going to make you seem less weird?

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You wanted the forum to know all about this. 

Know all about the...weird fictional people you've created in your mind?

[User]

11 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

He was a private citizen who took it upon himself to go out and try to do the cops' job without any authority to do so. Again, that's the dictionary definition of vigilante. Your crying about the dictionary again.

Private citizens protect property all the time. It is not a cops job to protect everyone's property. They come out to enforce laws when they are broken and sometimes can be in some places to help deter or protect. It is why we have an entire industry dedicated to security. 

You don't need any special authority to protect property. 

So, again, he is not a vigilante. 

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Do you think doubling down on this weird shit is going to make you seem less weird?

Come on now, you are the one making a big deal out of calling a fake vagina fake, so what do you call it?

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Know all about the...weird fictional people you've created in your mind?

No, you wanted us to know men can have fake vagina's too. You seem to have a lot of experience with fake vaginas. 

 

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Private citizens protect property all the time. It is not a cops job to protect everyone's property. They come out to enforce laws when they are broken and sometimes can be in some places to help deter or protect. It is why we have an entire industry dedicated to security. 

You don't need any special authority to protect property. 

This appears to be where he is tripping up. He seems to feel that people don't have the right to defend their property or their personal safety. Well the laws regarding that can be different in various parts of the country, generally speaking you do absolutely have the authority to defend private property and your own personal safety.

His belief appears to be that doing so is outside the law and that's where he's getting the Vigilante stuff. However that's not accurate, it is lawful

[Black Dog]

47 minutes ago, User said:

Private citizens protect property all the time. It is not a cops job to protect everyone's property. They come out to enforce laws when they are broken and sometimes can be in some places to help deter or protect. It is why we have an entire industry dedicated to security. 

And people operating outside those parameters are vigilantes by definition.

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You don't need any special authority to protect property. 

 

Not but doing so (particularly through the real or implied threat of violence) makes one a vigilante by definition.

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So, again, he is not a vigilante. 

he is, though, by definition.

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Come on now, you are the one making a big deal out of calling a fake vagina fake, so what do you call it?

No, you wanted us to know men can have fake vagina's too. You seem to have a lot of experience with fake vaginas. 

 

You're the one talking constantly about this long after the conversational ship sailed you genital-obsessed weirdo. Starting to think you're searching for wank material here.

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This appears to be where he is tripping up. He seems to feel that people don't have the right to defend their property or their personal safety. Well the laws regarding that can be different in various parts of the country, generally speaking you do absolutely have the authority to defend private property and your own personal safety.

His belief appears to be that doing so is outside the law and that's where he's getting the Vigilante stuff. However that's not accurate, it is lawful

There's nothing intrinsic to being a vigilante that means engaging in unlawful behaviour so I'm not sure why that matters.

[User]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

And people operating outside those parameters are vigilantes by definition.

Operating outside of what parameters?

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Not but doing so (particularly through the real or implied threat of violence) makes one a vigilante by definition.

Nope. Then every security guard, every homeowner, and everyone who protects property is a vigilante...

 

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

You're the one talking constantly about this long after the conversational ship sailed you genital-obsessed weirdo. Starting to think you're searching for wank material here.

You are the one upset about calling it fake... so what do you call your boyfriend's fake vagina?

 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

 

There's nothing intrinsic to being a vigilante that means engaging in unlawful behaviour so I'm not sure why that matters.

There literally is. 

a vigilante is someone who enforces the law without lawful authority.  Here's the definition:

vig·i·lan·te

/ˌvijəˈlan(t)ē/

noun

 

1. a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority, typically because the legal agencies are thought to be inadequate.

    

    If you have the legal right to defend yourself or property, then you are WITH legal authority, not WITHOUT legal authority. 

    

   Very simple. You cannot be a vigilante if you're acting within the law. 

[Hodad]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Hey stupid, are you trying to deny that Kamala was pimping a bail fund for rioters?

She was clearly pro-riot, as evidenced by her gushing praise for rioters on Colbert's show, and what other reason did a California girl have for pimping a Minnesota bail fund if not to get rioters out? Was she just trying to get pimps out? Rapists? Murderers? Fellow hoes & con-artists? 

Why was Kamala pimping a Minnesota bail fund, you dumb little weasel? 

You're lying about every piece of this post, as has been pointed out to you at least a half dozen times. Maybe more, since you copy and paste the same damn nonsense over and over and over again. 

It wasn't a bail fund "for rioters." She sent one tweet, IIRC. And she didn't say anything about rioters on Colbert. 

This is another of the phony narratives you've concocted and play for yourself on repeat. 

[User]

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

You're lying about every piece of this post, as has been pointed out to you at least a half dozen times. Maybe more, since you copy and paste the same damn nonsense over and over and over again. 

It wasn't a bail fund "for rioters." She sent one tweet, IIRC. And she didn't say anything about rioters on Colbert. 

This is another of the phony narratives you've concocted and play for yourself on repeat. 

No, you are being dishonest.

That bail fund was used for arrested protestors who were engaged in illegal activities including rioting. She made that tweet during that violence. That is quite obvious. 

She has had ample time to know and understand what that fund was used for, including bailing out that dude who went on to murder someone. 

Has she disavowed it? No. Hell, she won't even take real questions from the press right now. 

 

[Black Dog]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

There literally is. 

a vigilante is someone who enforces the law without lawful authority.  Here's the definition:

Very simple. You cannot be a vigilante if you're acting within the law. 

That's not what lawful authority means in legal terms it's not a synonym for "legal rights". Legal authority is official sanction to act, a legal right is not conferred by anyone but is generally recognized in law.

For example, the use of force to protect businesses is a right (albeit one usually reserved for actual property owners and not randos), but the authority to arrest and prosecute anyone damaging property rests with, well, the authorities. That's the distinction. 

It comes down to whether one believes arming oneself to protect property and maintain order during civil unrest  constitutes the duties of "law enforcement" authorities or not. 

 

15 hours ago, User said:

You are the one upset about calling it fake... so what do you call your boyfriend's fake vagina?

They have fetish sites for people like you, you know.

Edited August 27, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

but the authority to arrest and prosecute anyone damaging property rests with, well, the authorities. That's the distinction. 

Rittenhouse was not there acting as any authority to arrest and prosecute anyone. 

Glad we cleared this up. He was not a vigilante. 

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

They have fetish sites for people like you, you know.

You are the one who is all butt hurt about me calling your boyfriends fake vagina, fake. So, what should we call this fake vagina then?

[Deluge]

On 8/22/2024 at 2:10 PM, Rebound said:

Break the law, face justice.  That’s how it works.  

Biden and Harris have been breaking immigration law for the past 4 years. It's time to throw their raggedy asses into prison. 

Edited August 27, 2024 by Deluge

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, User said:

You are the one who is all butt hurt about me calling your boyfriends fake vagina, fake. So, what should we call this fake vagina then?

You're the one obsessed with this subject to the point of inventing fictional characters and bringing it up in every thread, it's clear sign of a deeply troubled psyche and some kind of unfulfilled sexual fetish.

3 minutes ago, User said:

Rittenhouse was not there acting as any authority to arrest and prosecute anyone. 

Glad we cleared this up. He was not a vigilante. 

You mean he was a a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who took law enforcement in the community without legal authority,?

[User]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You're the one obsessed with this subject to the point of inventing fictional characters and bringing it up in every thread, it's clear sign of a deeply troubled psyche and some kind of unfulfilled sexual fetish.

So, stop complaining about my calling it a fake vagina then. 

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You mean he was a a member of a self-appointed group of citizens who took law enforcement in the community without legal authority,?

No, I literally said: "Rittenhouse was not there acting as any authority "

Did you miss the "as" in the sentence? He was not there acting like law enforcement nor did he need any authority to be there. 

Typical liberal though, you folks are just fine with violent mobs of people out on the streets destroying business, support bailing them out when arrested,  but are all upset because someone dared to help protect property. 

 

[Black Dog]

23 minutes ago, User said:

So, stop complaining about my calling it a fake vagina then.

Stop obsessing over characters you've made up in your head, it can't be healthy. You come off like a sex offender tbh.

Edited August 27, 2024 by Black Dog

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, User said:

Rittenhouse was not there acting as any authority to arrest and prosecute anyone. 

Glad we cleared this up. He was not a vigilante. 

You are the one who is all butt hurt about me calling your boyfriends fake vagina, fake. So, what should we call this fake vagina then?

Section 61 paragraph 8 of the penal code, just recently turned into law by executive order - bypassing needless congressmen and senators who have finally been made redundant - states otherwise:

8. The unauthorized clean-up of graffiti, garbage, and the dousing of fires which were lawfully caused by sanctioned DNC militias is illegal, and punishable by incarceration for 10 years to life, because Kamala loves that shit.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

That's not what lawful authority means in legal terms it's not a synonym for "legal rights".

it literally is.  If you have the legal right to do something you have lawful authority. 

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but the authority to arrest and prosecute anyone damaging property rests with, well, the authorities.

Nope

hell - even in CANADA citizens have the right to arrest people

What You Need to Know About Making a Citizen's Arrest (justice.gc.ca)

In the states is quite common 

citizen's arrest | Wex Legal Dictionary / Encyclopedia | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

And no it's not even a little bit "only the land owner".  If a person witnesses a crime being committed they may arrest that person (with some restrictions in  some states as to which crime). 

You are 100 percent absolutely wrong here and @User  is making you look uneducated on the subject.   You need to read a little bit more before you dig yourself deeper.

With a handful of caveates, a person in the united states witnessing a crime has full authority to arrest the person committing the crime, to use reasonable force to restrain them, and if that person attacks them to use force to defend themselves.

So not a vigilante.

Edited August 27, 2024 by CdnFox