Republican comrades spreading support for Marxism

[Hodad]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I would like that to be true. 

Unfortunately, I do lapse into insult occasionally, and I wouldn't blame anyone holding that to me.

When in Rome...

[User]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

You're not being honest here. You're conflating drag story hours in schools and libraries with drag events in private establishments.

No, I didn't. 

[User]

14 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Michael,  you are the only one on this forum the MAGA lunatics respect,  it seems. Try steering them away from the toxic cult. 

He would have to engage with people first, instead of ignoring as many as he does or threatens to. 

[Michael Hardner]

The fact that both sides need to acknowledge is that we've established a principle: dressing in drag in an adult setting is perfectly ok.  Whether you're a straight man or a VP candidate, or a Rudy Giuliani...

[Black Dog]

6 minutes ago, User said:

No, I didn't. 

lol sure man.

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When Democrats and liberals want to push their LGBTQ sexual fetish acceptance onto kids in schools and encourage and take their children to what amounts to a strip show with scantly clad dudes dancing like stippers in front of them taking money in their g-strings. 

So either you think there are people dancing around in g-strings in schools, in which case you'd be wrong, or you're complaining about how people choose to spend their private time, which makes you an annoying busybody. Which is it?

 

Edited August 12, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

40 minutes ago, Matthew said:

I mean, ok if you say so. Whatever the particulars are from one rupublican to the next doesn't matter.

It certainly does matter for how you and others are disingenuously trying to frame this. 

41 minutes ago, Matthew said:

The current anti-trans thing for example is an obvious way to signal to millions of bigoted voters that you're their guy. The appeal of getting those votes matters more to republicans than the reality that their political actions inevitably increase the thing they are saying they are against.

Even now, you try to reduce the issues around trying to force gender identity nonsense onto children as an "anti-trans" thing. 

Nothing bigoted about wanting to protect children from Democrats encouraging life changing surgery and drugs, all so they can worship at their LGBTQ alter enough. 

The tides are turning against this madness except in liberal controlled areas and they are going to push this madness whether we oppose it or not. 

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The fact that both sides need to acknowledge is that we've established a principle: dressing in drag in an adult setting is perfectly ok.  Whether you're a straight man or a VP candidate, or a Rudy Giuliani...

LOL, you are so predictable. You are on here liking some of the worst posts by the worst posters while you hide from me. 

 

[User]

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Which is it?

It is not what you accused me of. 

[Black Dog]

2 minutes ago, User said:

It is not what you accused me of. 

I generously conceded there are two interpretations, one of which is you stupidly conflating private drag events with public schools/library events, the other where you're just an annoying scold. Again, which was your intention?

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, Black Dog said:

I generously conceded there are two interpretations, one of which is you stupidly conflating private drag events with public schools/library events, the other where you're just an annoying scold. 

1. Do you support drag story hour in school?

2. Do you support it in a public place where parents are free to bring their kids?

Easy questions.

My answer is: 

1. Probably not necessary for drag queens or clowns to read to children, nor to stir up a political identity fight in a classroom just to poke at Chuds.

2. Sure.  Lots of parents like that, for some reason.

 

[User]

6 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I generously conceded there are two interpretations, one of which is you stupidly conflating private drag events with public schools/library events, the other where you're just an annoying scold. Again, which was your intention?

Glad that you agree that you were wrong. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

Glad that you agree that you were wrong. 

Dummy or annoying loser, which is it? Me, I think you're both, but I'm curious about how you would self-id.

[Deluge]

On 8/11/2024 at 6:42 AM, Matthew said:

How many times this week has Harris or her campaign called Trump a fascist? I don't even know if her or Biden ever has.

The communist and Marxist stuff from the trump campaign is non-stop.

This is a really stupid comment, comrade.

The words "fascist" or "nazi" or "Hitler" spills out of the entire left's faces every single f*cking day. lol

[Matthew]

55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And progressives don't absolutely "win" just because things change.  Otherwise, the young reactionaries wouldn't be waxing nostalgic for the 70s 80s and 90s as I have read

True, by the time the issue is truely "won" in the minds and everyday lives of society, its not even an issue anymore. 

[Deluge]

32 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

lol sure man.

So either you think there are people dancing around in g-strings in schools, in which case you'd be wrong, or you're complaining about how people choose to spend their private time, which makes you an annoying busybody. Which is it?

 

It's the one that thinks drag queens reading stories to kids in schools should be illegal. 

[Deluge]

22 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I generously conceded there are two interpretations, one of which is you stupidly conflating private drag events with public schools/library events, the other where you're just an annoying scold. Again, which was your intention?

Private and Public have no business intermingling. Unless, of course, you want Christianity taking over Public Schools. 

[Nationalist]

59 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

what's Fentinyl? Is that what you take for incontinence or impotence?

Ah...I misspelled fentanyl.

Do you seriously not know what that is and where it's coming from?

BTW...must everything be about sex to you? Go get laid man.

Edited August 12, 2024 by Nationalist

[Black Dog]

26 minutes ago, Deluge said:

It's the one that thinks drag queens reading stories to kids in schools should be illegal. 

Well, thanks for confirming that you're a retarded authoritarian nutjob.

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Private and Public have no business intermingling. Unless, of course, you want Christianity taking over Public Schools. 

It's pretty clear you're not following the thread here, take your meds and try again another time.

[Matthew]

24 minutes ago, User said:

It certainly does matter for how you and others are disingenuously trying to frame this. 

One specific rationale doesn't matter in regards to the large-scale political phenomenon being described.

27 minutes ago, User said:

an "anti-trans" thing. 

Because I'm making a general point about the right-wing anti-trans movement, and the eventual large-scale long-term impact that will have in promoting transgender ideas in society.

30 minutes ago, User said:

The tides are turning against this madness except in liberal controlled areas

Nah, I live in a red state that has rolled out one authoritarian anti trans law after another. Republicans seem to actually think that gender ideas are being promoted primarily by government institutions and that if they crack down on those institutions it will go away. When in reality it's a sub-culture that spreads on its own in people lives and on the internet and in the culture they consume etc etc. Stong-arm government policies targeting trans people are utterly ineffective and just creative massive amounts of attention and promotion of their cause. By the time this generation of young people hits their 40s-60s, trans identity will be completely normalized thanks in large part to republicans of the 2020s.

[Michael Hardner]

38 minutes ago, Matthew said:

True, by the time the issue is truely "won" in the minds and everyday lives of society, its not even an issue anymore. 

What's more interesting to me is the progressive failures that are long forgotten. 

Those of us who are under 60 probably wouldn't even remember the busing issue in the US.  This was a huge political battlefield.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Matthew said:

One specific rationale doesn't matter in regards to the large-scale political phenomenon being described.

It is not one specific rationale. It is a disingenuous framing at best. 

4 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Because I'm making a general point about the right-wing anti-trans movement, and the eventual large-scale long-term impact that will have in promoting transgender ideas in society.

That might be your point, but it certainly is not one I agree with or care to speculate about. I am correcting your generalizations. 

4 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Nah, I live in a red state that has rolled out one authoritarian anti trans law after another. Republicans seem to actually think that gender ideas are being promoted primarily by government institutions and that if they crack down on those institutions it will go away. When in reality it's a sub-culture that spreads on its own in people lives and on the internet and in the culture they consume etc etc. Stong-arm government policies targeting trans people are utterly ineffective and just creative massive amounts of attention and promotion of their cause. By the time this generation of young people hits their 40s-60s, trans identity will be completely normalized thanks in large part to republicans of the 2020s.

See, here you are again, using the "anti trans" label. That is a left wing propaganda term so you can avoid having to actually discuss what the issues are really about, because when you starting having to defend butchering children with surgery to remove their body parts, it doesn't sound as good. 

No one is "targeting trans people" by opposing this pseudo-science driven more by an obsession with pushing LGBTQ worship onto the kids than actually helping kids. 

You can keep wishing this garbage gets normalized and I will keep calling it out for what it is you are doing. There is a reason why you use the terminology you do. If talking about it normalized it, you would be honestly talking about it for what it is. 

[Matthew]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

What's more interesting to me is the progressive failures that are long forgotten. 

For real. When it comes to institutional systems, economic and regulatory policies, labor issues, voting rights etc victories of the past are much more easily lost and struggles of the past more easily forgotten. Segregation has mostly to do with the way school district governmebts are so fragmented and there not much of a pathway to changing that system.

When it comes to more generalized attitudes about rights, what people expect from their government, social issues-- maybe these exist more in the culture and are less likely to revert.

[Deluge]

18 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

1. Well, thanks for confirming that you're a retarded authoritarian nutjob.

2. It's pretty clear you're not following the thread here, take your meds and try again another time.

1. Not even in your wettest dreams. 

You, however, are a stunted pervert and a menace to kids everywhere. 

2. It's the same story - you're some woke a$$hole crying about Trump and screaming your ass off when freedom gets a win. lol

Edited August 12, 2024 by Deluge

[impartialobserver]

On 8/10/2024 at 8:34 PM, Matthew said:

Actual Marxist socialist ideology is pretty complicated and the average person has little comprehension as to what it is.

I would agree. Most have not read the actual text of Das Kapital and/or the Communist Manifesto. 

[Matthew]

29 minutes ago, User said:

No one is "targeting trans people"

Well that's your opinion. Trans people in my state certainly feel targeted and directly impacted by the laws targeting them.

33 minutes ago, User said:

You can keep wishing this garbage gets normalized

I have no stake or particular interest in transgender politics. Conservatives are the main ones elevating the issue and therefore promoting the cultural changes to wide appeal.

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Well that's your opinion. Trans people in my state certainly feel targeted and directly impacted by the laws targeting them.

"Trans people" want alone time with kids.

I'm sorry, pervert, but that is inappropriate and it needs to stop.