Killing of pre-born babies is murder and our governments support it

[User]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

It doesn’t reduce abortions.  

Of course it would reduce abortions. 

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Save fetuses. 

So... nothing then?

[TreeBeard]

21 minutes ago, User said:

Of course it would reduce abortions. 

It doesn’t.  

As shown in many studies.   I will post them, but only if you promise to read them and not judge them because you happen to believe in conspiracies about the groups who authored them.  (WHO for example).  

 

Edited April 28 by TreeBeard

[User]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

It doesn’t.  

It certainly would. When you take away the easy access to abortions from having a clinic on any old street corner where folks can casually go in to kill their babies, you won't see 1,000,000 abortions every year anymore, nowhere close to that... or wherever you live. 
 

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

As shown in many studies.   I will post them, but only if you promise to read them and not judge them because you happen to believe in conspiracies about the groups who authored them.  (WHO for example).  

You can't even be bothered to answer a simple question about what happens when a pregnant woman changes her mind or respond directly to the points I make regarding how vascectomies are not 100% effective and they are far less effective when reversed, even less so the longer you go with one, or the absurdity of imposing that upon all boys.

So, you don't get to lecture me on promising to read anything. 

[TreeBeard]

Just now, User said:

It certainly would

It doesn’t.  Places that ban abortions have more abortions.  There is no relationship between banning abortions and the number that occurs.  If you really cared about fetuses, you’d support policies that work. 
 

Mandatory vasectomies removes sperm from the equation.  Boom.  No unwanted pregnancies, no abortions.  
 

You won’t answer what is more important….  bodily autonomy or unborn baby’s lives?  Once you answer that, we can continue the discussion.  Until then, you’re an enabler of murder.  

[User]

10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

It doesn’t.  Places that ban abortions have more abortions.  There is no relationship between banning abortions and the number that occurs.  If you really cared about fetuses, you’d support policies that work. 

This defies all logic and reason. Where are all these more abortions going to take place at?

You can see that in places in America after Roe V Wade was overturned, and states still had harsh restrictions in place, births went up. Texas fertility rate went up for the first time since 2014. 

That doesn't even take into account how many people still drove to another state to get an abortion there instead. 

So no, places that ban abortions do not have more abortions. 

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Mandatory vasectomies removes sperm from the equation.  Boom.  No unwanted pregnancies, no abortions.  

Once again, if you care to honestly engage:

You can't even be bothered to answer a simple question about what happens when a pregnant woman changes her mind or respond directly to the points I make regarding how vascectomies are not 100% effective and they are far less effective when reversed, even less so the longer you go with one, or the absurdity of imposing that upon all boys.

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You won’t answer what is more important….  bodily autonomy or unborn baby’s lives?  Once you answer that, we can continue the discussion.  Until then, you’re an enabler of murder.  

That is a stupid, vague, false dilemma.

 

[Nationalist]

On 9/25/2024 at 1:27 AM, August1991 said:

 

Blackbird. I disagree.

You think there is Good and Evil. When you pray, you think that you can talk to God.

(I think that you are simply talking to yourself.)

Oddly enough...you're correct on both accounts.

[Nationalist]

On 4/28/2025 at 4:37 PM, TreeBeard said:

It doesn’t.  

As shown in many studies.   I will post them, but only if you promise to read them and not judge them because you happen to believe in conspiracies about the groups who authored them.  (WHO for example).  

 

Which is a HUGE part of the problem. These "studies" and "experts" have lied so many times that nobody but the gullible who want to believe them, believes a word they say...or type...anymore.

[TreeBeard]

11 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Which is a HUGE part of the problem. These "studies" and "experts" have lied so many times that nobody but the gullible who want to believe them, believes a word they say...or type...anymore.

Yeah.  It’s a conspiracy!  🙄

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Yeah.  It’s a conspiracy!  🙄

No. It's simply not a good idea to believe those who have proven unreliable. 

[blackbird]

On 10/15/2024 at 9:26 PM, August1991 said:

Disagree about good and evil.

When you are praying, you are talking to yourself. Think about that.

You obviously don't believe the King James Bible or believe in the God of the Bible.   Yet God sent his Son to die for the sins of mankind and was raised from the dead and seen after the resurrection by many people.  Many of the Apostles who saw Jesus after the resurrection became martyrs.  People don't die for a lie.

"Philippians 4:6 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Colossians 4:2 - Continue in prayer, and watch in the same with thanksgiving;

Acts 2:42 - And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.

1 Thessalonians 5:17 - Pray without ceasing.

Psalms 145:18 - The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.

John 17:1-26 - These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:   (Read More...)

Romans 1:9-10 - For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers;   (Read More...)

Ephesians 6:18 - Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

2 Timothy 3:1-7 - This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.   (Read More...)

James 5:13 - Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.

John 15:1-3 - I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.   (Read More...)

Luke 18:1 - And he spake a parable unto them to this end, that men ought always to pray, and not to faint;

[herbie]

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A pregnant woman in Georgia who was declared brain-dead after a medical emergency has been on life support for three months to let the fetus grow enough to be delivered, a move her family says a hospital told them was required under the state's strict anti-abortion law.

The fetus was 9 weeks old so letting the woman die would violate State law.
Using dead corpses to breed children is now the 'ethical' solution.

sick, sick, sick.

[User]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

The fetus was 9 weeks old so letting the woman die would violate State law.
Using dead corpses to breed children is now the 'ethical' solution.

sick, sick, sick.

So, your idea of "ethics" is to let the baby die too?

 

[herbie]

[User]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

The woman is dead... so what is the outrage here exactly?

You want to kill babies so badly?

[herbie]

[User]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you want to kill the baby too, you are one of the bad guys. 

 

[herbie]

Got it - there ain't no "baby". A dead handmaid and the rights of survivors eliminated  - cuz you don't like it, fascist.

[User]

11 minutes ago, herbie said:

Got it - there ain't no "baby". A dead handmaid and the rights of survivors eliminated  - cuz you don't like it, fascist.

Yeah, there most certainly is a baby. 

Your depravity knows no bounds. 

[herbie]

Yeah just look at who's depraved. A man who can't get knocked up and would fight every way to not have to pay child support and deny single Mom's govt assistance.

[User]

10 hours ago, herbie said:

Yeah just look at who's depraved. A man who can't get knocked up and would fight every way to not have to pay child support and deny single Mom's govt assistance.

What the hell are you talking about?