This isn't about Joe. It's about America

[User]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's NOT "lowly" to believe that she has no better chance than Joe, who has BEATEN Trump already.

Ha ha ha. Yes, you think so lowly of her that she has no better chance than Biden does while he is barely sentient. 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's NOT "lowly" to believe that she has no better chance than Joe, who has BEATEN Trump already.

Considering Joe's chances.... it's lowly  

[myata]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Do you believe ANYONE is a guaranteed winner

No guarantees and that means that sane America needs more than just a candidate who would wash hands to go to the memoirs; not necessarily the one that was good four years ago. But the best one, now. If Joe thinks he is the best one and he can think soundly and responsibly now he will have responsibility to the history, nothing less. And if he cannot do that, the stakes being what they are, we absolutely cannot write it off to grandpa's obstinacy and wait patiently to see what happens. In that case, the people have the right to know.

[Legato]

52 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Personally I would vote for Warren, but I don't believe she'd do it.

The dems have circled the wagons she has no chance.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

The dems have circled the wagons she has no chance.

it took me a minute to pick up on the indian reference there and tie in lizzie warren's fake claim about being indian but i got there in the end ..... well played      

Edited July 7, 2024 by CdnFox

[myata]

1. Stinky troll: back to the fascist motherland. Now.

2. There's a way to resolve this and it has to happen soon now. Responsible, trusted Democrats must have a good long conversation with Joe: in his real condition, no prompts no plugs for real time interpretation. Then they have a discussion among themselves and come out with a single, clear statement: can he run the campaign, a real one difficult formats, exhausting physically etc to win. Sane America needs a candidate who can win, not for the memoirs "we tried". This isn't about Joe any longer and he must get it, one way or the other. He is not entitled to run; he isn't owed to by sane America. To earn its trust he has to prove that he can win this, nothing less.

3. So we will know that, can he run and can he still get that it isn't about him at this point.

4. Later, after winning the party has to have a long and hard conversation about how this has happened and why it cannot happen again. Or it could be the end of another sane party too.

[Deluge]

On 7/6/2024 at 11:15 AM, myata said:

Honestly: I don't have confidence that Joe can make decisions, from that perspective 1) rationally and 2) responsibly. I can be wrong and I admit it. Joe can be wrong and to remain on the side of sanity, he has to retain the ability to admit it. No one is above the reality.

So, this is the way to resolve this. A gathering of individuals of honesty and integrity can have a long conversation with Joe and as a result, determine the best candidate to stand for the sane America. It can be Joe; or it can be someone else. The best candidate for America has to stand, and it doesn't have to be Joe. It's about America, its future and that of the free world. Too much is at stake for personal ambitions.

The fate of democracy was always in the hands of its citizens. We used to know but we forgot.

The fate of our Republic is in the hands of Donald Trump and MAGA - without MAGA, this country will become a left-wing shithole like NYC or San Francisco. 

Edited July 8, 2024 by Deluge

[myata]

A fascist admiring mindless cult? I would run from that "fate" at the top of the lungs and everything. The choice though, as always is ours. Not like we didn't know.

"Wir werden Deutschland wieder groß machen“  "we'll make Germany great again", Hitler, 1932.

A coincidence? Not like we didn't see it or couldn't have known.

[impartialobserver]

Yes... the fact that we have two unfit candidates is the fault of the American voter. 165 million voters and a lot of very smart people and this is the best that we can do? Pretty pathetic honestly. 

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, User said:

Ha ha ha. Yes, you think so lowly of her that she has no better chance than Biden does while he is barely sentient. 

NO! ^This is what you believe. "Barely sentient" LMAO

Joe has MCI (MILD cognitive impairment.) Duh

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, myata said:

No guarantees and that means that sane America needs more than just a candidate who would wash hands to go to the memoirs; not necessarily the one that was good four years ago. But the best one, now. If Joe thinks he is the best one and he can think soundly and responsibly now he will have responsibility to the history, nothing less. And if he cannot do that, the stakes being what they are, we absolutely cannot write it off to grandpa's obstinacy and wait patiently to see what happens. In that case, the people have the right to know.

Joe has as good a chance as anyone AT THIS POINT. 80M voted for him before, and only half (the diehard political junkies) of those watched the debate.

[User]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

NO! ^This is what you believe. "Barely sentient" LMAO

Joe has MCI (MILD cognitive impairment.) Duh

LOL... so you admit he has cognitive impairment!

And you still think Harris doesn't have a better shot than he does. Like I said... you must think lowly of her then. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

The fate of our Republic is in the hands of Donald Trump and MAGA - without MAGA, this country will become a left-wing shithole like NYC or San Francisco. 

TWO of the best cities IN THE WORLD, DELUGINAL. Duh

Just now, User said:

LOL... so you admit he has cognitive impairment!

And you still think Harris doesn't have a better shot than he does. Like I said... you must think lowly of her then. 

She doesn't have the experience nor the track record of Joe Biden. That is NOT "lowly."

Just STOP LYING, lDIOT.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, myata said:

1. Stinky troll: back to the fascist motherland. Now.

Awwww little guy - sometimes it seems like that stick up your ass has a stick up it's ass.   

 

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2. There's a way to resolve this and it has to happen soon now. 

Discussions are ongoing but discussions are not a resolution.  You're proposed nothing useful.

In the end if the dems want him gone they're going to have to bribe him with lots of money. Offer to start a charity or something and put 100 million into it and they can make a million a year each (his family) administering it. There's no chance he'll step down for the 'good of the country', so they need to put up OR accept the L and put all their money and effort into saving the down ballot people. 

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3. So we will know that, can he run and can he still get that it isn't about him at this point.

It's about him at this point.

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4. Later, after winning the party has to have a long and hard conversation about how this has happened and why it cannot happen again. Or it could be the end of another sane party too.

It happened because bernie sanders was going to win the nomination in 2020 and they couldn't have an actual communist go up against trump and they didn't have any other good candidates to put in. 

And then it continued to happen because democrats and the media conspired to lie and hide the fact that an 80 year old man was unfortunately diminished by an illness and decided to prop him up. 

The dems lies have come back to bite them in the ass horribly and now they're going to lose the election. They probably would have anyway but they had a much better chance of turning it around before joe proved to the world that he's not all there. 

[Deluge]

Just now, robosmith said:

TWO of the best cities IN THE WORLD, DELUGINAL. Duh

That are rapidly becoming two of the biggest shitholes in the world, ROBOSKANK. 

You dumbf*cks can lean on the past for only so long.  

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Joe has as good a chance as anyone AT THIS POINT. 80M voted for him before, and only half (the diehard political junkies) of those watched the debate.

Joe has almost no chance at this point.  And people are watching the clips on youtube constantly to see what everyone is talking about.  And he keeps making gaffes and screwing up. 

There's no putting that genie back in the bottle.  People were very concerned about his age already. 

And the media is out there saying how it's not their fault they've been saying he's fine, they were lied to by the dems. And the dems are out there saying it's not their fault because they were lied to by the family. And the family is blaming everyone else.  And the donors and the other dems are freaking. 

There's no chance the FBI will come out and claim this is just russian disinformation. 

It's over for joe.  It's probably over for kamala too if she tries becuase the dem credibility has taken such a hit.  But we'll see what they do.

[User]

32 minutes ago, robosmith said:

She doesn't have the experience nor the track record of Joe Biden. That is NOT "lowly."

Just STOP LYING, lDIOT.

LOL, that is the literal definition of lowly... you place her at having a lower status than Biden in experience and track record... 

You would rather see a senile old man run because you don't think his VP is better. 

[Deluge]

On 7/6/2024 at 11:00 PM, robosmith said:

Sure he can. And you have no evidence your "reality" is superior.

You can't even NAME the BETTER candidate who has a BETTER chance of beating Trump.

Joe has the electors and it up to HIM to relinquish them or not.

It is telling that that 5 Democratic pols who are telling him to step aside, are not even saying who THEY WANT INSTEAD.

What do you care about who steps up, robocrat? You'd vote for a chimpanzee if it had a (D) next to its name. 

Edited July 8, 2024 by Deluge

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, User said:

LOL, that is the literal definition of lowly... you place her at having a lower status than Biden in experience and track record... 

You would rather see a senile old man run because you don't think his VP is better. 

If we're being fair it IS a bit of a toss up....

Dementia.... Kamala.  Dementia.... Kamala.  I mean there's not exactly a lot of daylight between those if you know what i mean.