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6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump was able to predict that Biden's/Ukraine's insistence on getting Ukraine into NATO would lead to war. 

Leftards here still don't understand that, and they say things like "NATO is a non-aggressive pact, so Putin has no reason to fear NATO on his western border." One of them reiterated that BS in the last 2 days. @robosmith iirc.

That "phony quote rant" isn't exaggerated at all. It's honestly how leftards feel. 

YOU DON'T RECALL CORRECTLY. You just engage in FANTASIES, as USUAL.

Posted (edited)

What an !!diot, is it even possible? No it can't be that simple: the purpose here is nothing less than to erase the difference between the fact, truth, reality - and a word, fantasy, lie. Goebbelsian - that's before Orwell. Orwellian. Now, Trumpian.

Facts: no lie will change them

Norway, United States, Canada: on Western and Eastern borders of USSR/Russia since NATO was established, 1949.

Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland: from early 2000x.

Finland: 2023.

There are no and can be no excuses for these crimes. Finding valid causes for a violent psycho's crimes means siding with him. Everyone who's saying this or repeating it thoughtlessly is siding with a brutal and violent psycho, a full equivalent of Hitler in our time.

Our reason, our conscience and our integrity tell us that. And they exist for a reason.

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If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted (edited)
On 10/18/2024 at 2:16 PM, User said:

Fact: This is AFTER the fact, Trump has clearly condemned Putin for this and rightly blamed Biden for his weakness. No different than you are on here trying to blame Trump.

If we stay on the side of sanity - and this is my choice, you have your own, a sane person has to admit: one cannot, being sane and honest, engineer, instill a debilitating weakness and then turn around and blame others for its consequences.

Tedious, shaky and wavering trust in Afghan government took decades to build - literally. Trump's agreement pulled the rug right from under it - deflated it right to 0%, instantly, the same day. While the meetings were happening, the officials and associates began making deals with the new regime. There were no miracles in the universe that could restore trust in the government in a snap of the fingers. Evaporated. Gone. The take: you are repeating dumb lies; or lying, dumbly and obviously at that. This is your chance to get it.

Second, after the fallout of Jan. 6 - remember how it came to happen, just in case? counted months remained for planning and executing the withdrawal. For the entire coalition and while holding Taliban back. It could have been an unmanageable catastrophe, Dunkirk of this century. And there's one individual who is responsible for that.

Third, right after the withdrawal, Vlad began building up the army for the invasion of Ukraine. This is a direct causal chain, no time in between and no loose links. One person is responsible for the effect. He can pump up cheeks now and spew countless lies but the reality tells it very clearly: he helped dictatorial forces in a real and material way and contributed to Vlad's perception of the weakness of the West. And even that is not the end of the story: after the invasion was unleashed, he called Vlad "genius" and "savvy".

That's what the objective reality and sanity tell us. These are the facts.

Now to stay on the objective side, one must admit that the project itself was misguided and quite possibly lost. Something had to be done about it. But not in a way of a careless liar full of, and interested only in himself prepared to ruin anything and all to advance his personal goals and agendas. And that is, mind you, if he is not in fact, working for the enemy - we don't know that yet, but there are some troublesome facts and pointers.

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If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
1 hour ago, myata said:

If we stay on the side of sanity - and this is my choice, you have your own, a sane person has to admit: one cannot, being sane and honest, engineer, instill a debilitating weakness and then turn around and blame others for its consequences.

Are you just going to keep repeating yourself and ignoring my responses?

There is nothing sane about what you are doing here. 

1 hour ago, myata said:

Trump's agreement pulled the rug right from under it - deflated it right to 0%

Biden owned every bit of that mess. Nothing compelled him to withdrawal or do it as he did. Taliban reneged on the deal, Biden chose to ignore that and go ahead with that messy withdrawal as he did. 

1 hour ago, myata said:

Second, after the fallout of Jan. 6

This has as much to do with Russia doing anything as my taking a dump this morning.

1 hour ago, myata said:

Third, right after the withdrawal, Vlad began building up army for the invasion of Ukraine.

On Biden's watch. 

 

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted

Well looks like you can't admit the reality or tell the difference between it and the lies. So what's left is to repeat the lying mantra endlessly - in the hope of what? It won't make any difference to the reality and you already handed in and signed off your brain. Like, why bother? Beats me.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
9 minutes ago, myata said:

Well looks like you can't admit the reality or tell the difference between it and the lies. So what's left is to repeat the lying mantra endlessly - in the hope of what? It won't make any difference to the reality and you already handed in and signed off your brain. Like, why bother? Beats me.

Like, why bother posting something like this and not tagging who you are responding to?

Beats me... 

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted

Many reasons. Memory. Reality. Truth. Objectivity. Principles. They exist for a reason. Many know that. It's about way more than some virtual games.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
39 minutes ago, myata said:

Many reasons. Memory. Reality. Truth. Objectivity. Principles. They exist for a reason. Many know that. It's about way more than some virtual games.

So many factors. Daydreams. Unicorns. Reality TV. Subjectivity. Snacks. They all matter, trust me. Everyone gets it. It’s way more complicated than just hitting buttons on a screen!

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted

Well if for you the reality, memory and principles are "daydream unicorns" that would be a choice. Your choice, free and voluntary. Nobody made you choose that, and that way. Makes sense to know and remember because our choices define who we are and will be. Obvious, no?

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
7 minutes ago, myata said:

Well if for you the reality, memory and principles are "daydream unicorns" that would be a choice. Your choice, free and voluntary. Nobody made you choose that, and that way. Makes sense to know and remember because our choices define who we are and will be. Obvious, no?

Absolutely! Choices like juggling spaghetti while riding a unicycle are the key to understanding how we become sentient marshmallows in a world of rubber ducks. It’s all about the wibbly wobbly essence of what’s not really there, right?

LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted
4 hours ago, myata said:

Many reasons. Memory. Reality. Truth. Objectivity. Principles. They exist for a reason. 

How would you know, you haven't got any of those

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Posted
43 minutes ago, myata said:

We knew everything, no way around it.

What a bold proclamation! It’s as if we’re all sitting at the table of omniscience, feasting on the buffet of absolute certainty. Yet, I can’t help but wonder if knowing everything is a bit like trying to catch a greased pig—exciting, but inevitably slippery. Sure, we might think we have it all figured out, but then reality tosses us a curveball, and suddenly we’re lost in a maze of questions. But hey, if we knew everything, at least we could solve the great mystery of why that one guy from high school insists he’s a time traveler!

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

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There are no respectable reasons or causes for turning off one's brain and handing it over. Back in the old times folks could claim naivete, ignorance absence of knowledge or education. No such escapes now. Information at our fingertips. We knew everything. So it's down to the choice. The brain existed for a reason. Reason, truth, reality, principles, integrity, responsibility: they all exist.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
32 minutes ago, myata said:

There are no respectable reasons or causes for turning off one's brain and handing it over. Back in the old times folks could claim naivete, ignorance absence of knowledge or education. No such escapes now. Information at our fingertips. We knew everything. So it's down to the choice. The brain existed for a reason. Reason, truth, reality, principles, integrity, responsibility: they all exist.

Perhaps the essence of existence lies in the dance between thought and surrender, where the lines blur and meanings shift like shadows in the twilight. Choices echo in the silence, and the journey remains as complex as ever.

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted (edited)

Hot p*ss of unlimited power into the egomaniac's brain? Musk has been in regular contact with Putin: a war criminal under international warrant and a full equivalent of Hitler today for two years (WSJ).

Here's an obvious observation: Vlad never does anything that "peace lovers" ask of him; he hasn't moved an inch. It's them on the other hand who are de facto doing his bidding. So, who is the master and who playing pawns? Obvious. Factual.

The number of zeroes doesn't make it right. Our ancestors knew. We would be run by mafia clans if they didn't know.

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If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted

Memory; right and wrong; truth; the reason; integrity and honesty: they aren't just words. They exist and make difference. That is the reason why they exist.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted

We have brains, memory and the reason. They exist for a reason - they aren't just words.

"Has highest respect for the office"? But not for the rule of law? Not for the independent justice system? Not for free and democratic elections? This is not called a leader of a democratic nation. There's a proper word for it: dictatorship. Every single dictator adores his chair, as long as he can sit in it forever.

No scares, and why would one need any exaggerations? All is in plain sight and their own words.

Let's see it for what it is: a thirst and quest for uncontrolled power. Not bound by any rules, conventions, traditions or principles. America's first.

The choice is ours and it's a free choice. But as always in grown up life, choices have consequences. We know everything.

If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant

Posted
4 hours ago, myata said:

Memory; right and wrong; truth; the reason; integrity and honesty: they aren't just words. They exist and make difference. That is the reason why they exist.

spam spam spam spam 

11 minutes ago, myata said:

We have brains, memory and the reason.

We do. You don't. You have minor delusions and some sort of brain hemorrhaging that prevents you from speaking like a human being.

Posted
1 hour ago, myata said:

This is an undemocratic cult. It does not need democracy: it's perfectly OK with replacing it with their non-stop-lying guru idol. No avoiding this conclusion now.

Are you referring to the voices in your head?

Posted
8 hours ago, myata said:

Non-democracy cult is turning anti-democracy, just like the last time:

You mean they're trying to keep republican names off the ballot again?

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