Trump's new claims would have been nothing short of apologizing Hitler's invasion that started WWII

[Michael Hardner]

48 minutes ago, myata said:

The process have to be build to involve citizens continuously throughout the political cycle. Townhalls on important issues; country-wide non-partisan discussions; plebiscites, both binding and informational. Nominations, nothing like the pageants now, the opposite of it: down to the point, interactive and informative. If and once a citizen becomes a consumer, advertising is 80% effective. Deafening contradicting messages result in numbness of mind. It's a one way road to total and irreversible alienation.

This sounds right to me.  

Maaaaan.... what a lot of work ahead of us.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, myata said:

My idea is that any candidate, appointee etc in the democratic system has to affirm full and unconditional acceptance of its principles.

So lincon should have affirmed slavery? 

The only thing a leader needs to do is spell out his priorities and platform and seek a mandate from the people. It is up to the people to determine if the person is worthy of receiving a mandate. You don't get to take that choice away from them. 

More spam from our resident commie.

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

This sounds right to me.  

Maaaaan.... what a lot of work ahead of us.

LOL -  so having a leader swear fealty to a list of 'principles' rather than the people s/he serves is preferable. 

The state is more important than the citizen - where have we heard THAT before  Mr "i'm a conservative really i am"  

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

1. LOL -  so having a leader swear fealty to a list of 'principles' rather than the people s/he serves is preferable. 

2. The state is more important than the citizen - where have we heard THAT before ...

3. Mr "i'm a conservative really i am"  

1. Ok ?  Where is that idea from ?
2. Where is THAT idea from ?
3. I am one.  

This seems to be you kicking at the Pepsi machine hoping to get something out of it.

This post is your Pepsi.  

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Ok ?  Where is that idea from ?

Your words.

 You agreed with myata who's entire position is summed up by his comment "My idea is that any candidate, appointee etc in the democratic system has to affirm full and unconditional acceptance of its principles."

A leader puts forward his paltform and his policy and priorities - and then people chose. He does not rule by committee, he does not flip flop in whatever direction the polls go based on 'percieved principles' of the people or whatever that nonsense means. 

A leader has a vision, then he seeks a mandate for that vision after clearly spelling it out and then he tries to make decisions in the best interest of the country based on that mandate.  He does not pledge allegiance to some sort of ideals' and he does not meekly follow opinion polls. 

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Where is THAT idea from ?

Pretty much every socialist doctrine, mr "i'm a real conservative"  

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 I am one.  

That would be a lie, which proves you're on the left   LOL

You can't keep pitching socialist dogma and claim to be on the right. 

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Your words.

 You agreed with myata who's entire position is summed up by his comment "My idea is that any candidate, appointee etc in the democratic system has to affirm full and unconditional acceptance of its principles."

A leader puts forward his paltform and his policy and priorities - and then people chose. He does not rule by committee, he does not flip flop in whatever direction the polls go based on 'percieved principles' of the people or whatever that nonsense means. 

A leader has a vision, then he seeks a mandate for that vision after clearly spelling it out and then he tries to make decisions in the best interest of the country based on that mandate.  He does not pledge allegiance to some sort of ideals' and he does not meekly follow opinion polls. 

Pretty much every socialist doctrine, mr "i'm a real conservative"  

That would be a lie, which proves you're on the left   LOL

You can't keep pitching socialist dogma and claim to be on the right. 

Oh, well... yes I think it's reasonable to have a candidate affirm acceptance of 'Democracy'.... not that crazy an idea.

I don't understand what you're trying to twist that into... somehow it's socialism.  Ok, if you say so.  Voting is "socialism".

Look at that, another Pepsi...

[myata]

Democracy is not reduced to the rule of the mob. Someone wants us to forget that. Really desperate. Just see what happens if they could get their way:

- Any loser could claim the elections they don't like "stolen" with zero evidence;

- Any loser president could order themselves "votes", just as many as they need to "win". Putin and Maduro know the trick.

- Congress and courts reduced to the function of lapdogs of "tough" leaders.

Reminds you of something? In their own words? See it for what it is now; the eyes and the brain they are telling us something.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Oh, well... yes I think it's reasonable to have a candidate affirm acceptance of 'Democracy'.... not that crazy an idea.
 

Ahh your usual game of 'move the goalposts'      That's not what you said. 

 

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don't understand what you're trying to twist that into... somehow it's socialism.  Ok, if you say so.  Voting is "socialism".

You understand fine.  But you don't want to admit it or deal with it so rather than address what was said you claim "Voting is socialism".  Pretty dishonest, 

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Look at that, another Pepsi...

Look at that another lying leftie. 

[myata]

The attraction is mutual: Kim wants him back. There's nothing here that we couldn't see: right before our eyes.

[User]

3 hours ago, myata said:

The attraction is mutual: Kim wants him back. There's nothing here that we couldn't see: right before our eyes.

LOL, a North Korean man has an opinion... your point?

Did you even read this article?

[myata]

Can read it as: one of the best information sources on NK believes that Kim is fascinated with the lying boor. And we already know it all the other way around. In his own words. Nothing here we couldn't have known.

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, myata said:

Can read it as: one of the best information sources on NK believes that Kim is fascinated with the lying boor. And we already know it all the other way around. In his own words. Nothing here we couldn't have known.

spam spam spam spam..... 

[myata]

Toddler (or lying) politics: I don't want to see it so it doesn't exist. Facts are spam! "Fake news"!

Nothing here we couldn't have known.

[User]

16 hours ago, myata said:

Can read it as: one of the best information sources on NK believes that Kim is fascinated with the lying boor. And we already know it all the other way around. In his own words. Nothing here we couldn't have known.

And? What is your point?

You are here trying to say there is something nefarious afoot when there isn't. I don't let 3rd world dictators dictate to me who I am going to support for President. Apparently, you do. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, myata said:

Toddler (or lying) politics: I don't want to see it so it doesn't exist. Facts are spam! "Fake news"!

Nothing here we couldn't have known.

Dear diary,... 

[myata]

Don't you just know it when a dead brain has nothing to say, not a single bit of live information?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

Don't you just know it when a dead brain has nothing to say, not a single bit of live information?

Sure - we see you post here and we know you've got nothing to say or a single bit of information. 

You just spam the board constantly. 

Dear diary... 

[myata]

When dead brains have nothing to say everyone knows what to expect: bullsh*t; love and adore Him!! anathema!!! Only three dead harmonics.

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, myata said:

When dead brains have nothing to say everyone knows what to expect: bullsh*t; love and adore Him!! anathema!!! Only three dead harmonics.

Spam spam spam spam...... 

[myata]

Is the absolute zero of information same thing as bullsh*t? Interesting. Can it be a tantalizing hint of a new dead harmonic?

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, myata said:

Is the absolute zero of information same thing as bullsh*t? 

no, it's just Spam. Your stuff isn't necessarily bullshit, it's spam. Occasionally it's bullshit and spam but it's usually spam

Spam spam spam spam...

[myata]

Just so you get it, an analogy: to a blind one, even a tiniest shred of light feels like "spam". By extension, a dead brain cannot stand a single bit of real, live information, it's like anathema to it(!!). Makes sense, right?

[WestCanMan]

On 7/29/2024 at 10:26 AM, Michael Hardner said:

This sounds right to me.  

Maaaaan.... what a lot of work ahead of us.

Are you kidding? That was word soup:

• "The process have to be build to involve citizens continuously throughout the political cycle."

1. That's grade 3 English.

2. The process does involve citizens continuously, MH. There's polling on every issue known to man. 

Remember when Biden floated the idea of adding 4 new SCJ's? And then he switched to talking about term limits on SCJ's?

If the MSM could have brainwashed enough people to get either of those issues polling highly enough, they would have gone on to the next step: tabling a bill. 

Apparently the American public still isn't ready for such a blatant power grab yet, because the MSM didn't generate enough fear with the J6 propaganda.

Maybe they should have floated that idea on this day:

The American public is still getting used to a Dem-controlled FBI, DoJ, MSM, and IRS. Thanos Biden is gonna have to wait a bit longer to get the SC gem for his glove.

Edited August 3, 2024 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, myata said:

Just so you get it, an analogy: to a blind one, even a tiniest shred of light feels like "spam". By extension, a dead brain cannot stand a single bit of real, live information, it's like anathema to it(!!). Makes sense, right?

Why do you spam the board all day?

[myata]

And here we go, again the same tune.

"And if you want to bring peace to this region, you need a negotiator whom Vladimir Putin respects"

"And she certainly won't be able to sit in an audience with Vladimir Putin and promote an acceptable peace," JD Vance in Philadelphia

Putin is Hitler today. He does all the same things. He is an international criminal with a warrant issued. Who was seeking respect of Hitler? Who couldn't wait to "sit in audience with him"? Our ancestors knew something but these folks, just seem to have totally, incurably clueless.

What is "acceptable"? How is it different from lawful? Does the international law still exist and does it apply to everybody? What does the UN Charter say?

We see the same recurring pattern here that shows us very clearly: these people just don't understand the concepts of democracy and law; but they are closer in their thinking to aggressive thugs of the worst kind.

And they are making it very clear themselves, in and with their own words. What's even to add, here? Hitler needs acceptable "peace". And they are here to speak on his behalf.

[myata]

Thug lovers yes, I insist. Just couldn't hold their deep admiration for authoritarian thugs and no one even making them like in the Kim's zoo, all entirely voluntary and genuine.

Our ancestors defeated fascist thugs in WWII. Free world led by Reagan and Thatcher defeated same communist thugs in the 1980s, only those looked a bit more civilized. And now we have this. What a pathetic travesty.

But look, it's all objective and factual, in their own words. And right before our eyes.