Trusted News Initiative Members and WH Embarking on a new Disinformation Campaign called "Cheap Fakes"

[BeaverFever]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) So can we just acknowledge the fact that you're not willing to say "Joe Biden is of sound mind"?

Nope you can’t acknowledge that. I am willing to say that Joe Biden is of Sound mind. 
 

 

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

you won't even hang your sterling repolitics reputation on a statement like: "Joe isn't entirely feeble and he is not well into cognitive decline."

False. Joe isn’t entirely feeble and he is not well into cognitive decline. 
 

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump spoke for several hours a day, with no teleprompter

He often uses a teleprompter and was recently upset when it wasn’t working  Not that you need a teleprompter to rant like lunatic and Im sure he goes off screen anyway 

 

Trump complains about his teleprompters at a scorching Las Vegas rally

 

Well into his speech, Trump said it was “not as bad” as he thought it would be, and said he was angrier with the teleprompters not working well, even when he used to mock President Barack Obama for relying on that device.

“I pay all this money to teleprompter people, and I’d say 20% of the time, they don’t work,” he said, adding he would not pay the vendor who provided the prompters. “It’s a mess.”
 

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-nevada-rally-heat-las-vegas-90b0c766b9bfc41b370953834b70f7c9

 

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump's schedule was arguably 10,000 times what Biden's was in the 2020 campaign season. Trump was out in the heat for hrs a day and constantly travelling and still doing several hrs a day. Biden did 20 minutes every two days from is basement. Trump's schedule literally was 10,000 times harder than Biden's,

How ridiculous. Biden’s full time job is President of the United States not giving election speeches, which does on his personal time not taxpayers time. How do you not understand that?

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

 

 

 

The gift that keeps on giving.  

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[WestCanMan]

53 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Biden is not my boy

Trump is only 3 years younger, older than Biden was in the last election. Trump’s showing his own signs of early dementia in the form of phonemic paraphasia,

OMG, stupid. Nice try.

Leftards have always been making these BS accusations - without anyone ever diagnosing that in person - and Trump already passed a cognitive test since that line of BS came out.

 

Again, you're comparing a guy who still speaks off the cuff for hours at a time, to a guy who only did pre-recorded 20-minute videos from his basement for his entire campaign, has been completely sheltered from media questions for 4 full years now, and didn't have to do rallies.

There's a good reason why there's always someone ready to "pull the plug" on any live event which Biden's involved in. They know the lights can go out at any second. No one does that with Trump. He starts, crries on for hrs, and finishes with no problems. 

Right now, if something happens at 9 PM DC time, Joe ihs already been asleep for an hour, and there's no way that you could wake a guy like that up and get 4 solid hrs from him. In order to get lucid communication from him you have to let him sleep until 9 AM the next day, let him get his brekky and change his diaper, and at that point you only get 20 minutes. Then he's back in the crisper drawer with the other vegetables.  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Nope you can’t acknowledge that. I am willing to say that Joe Biden is of Sound mind. 
False. Joe isn’t entirely feeble and he is not well into cognitive decline. 

OMG, that's the most BS I've ever seen packed into 3 sentences.

it's embarrassing to Canada how stupid you are, and how much you lie. 

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How ridiculous. Biden’s full time job is President of the United States not giving election speeches, which does on his personal time not taxpayers time. How do you not understand that?

Buddy, I'm talking about the 2020 campaign. The 2024 campaign isn't in full swing yet. Biden isn't officially nominated. 

In 2020 Trump was president, dealing with the plandemic, and still campaigning at full gallop while Biden was hiding in his basement and only giving one pre-recorded yet somehow still gaffe-riddled, discombobulated, 20-minute speech every day or so. Trump was like a warhorse on the battlefield and Biden was a hobbled donkey only capable of lying in a warm barn.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Biden is not my boy

Uh huh  

 

 

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Trump is only 3 years younger, older than Biden was in the last election. Trump’s showing his own signs of early dementia in the form of phonemic paraphasia, which is not just normal stumbling during speech but mixing up like-sounding syllables, get stuck on the same word and repeating it over and over, trailing off into silence mid sentence, interrupting himself mid sentence to go off an unrelated tangent, trying to get back on topic by suddenly yelling out a single key word from his intended point, etc.

A very tiny bit.  But biden is showing late stages of the same thing. Trump generally speaks very well and without a teleprompter even .  Biden struggles even with one.  And he becomes confused about where he is etc. 

I'm sorry, but while trump may be getting to 'that age' biden is very clearly past 'that age' and that will be an issue in the upcoming election. 

[BeaverFever]

On 6/21/2024 at 2:24 PM, WestCanMan said:

In 2020 Trump was president, dealing with the plandemic, and still campaigning at full gallop while Biden was hiding in his basement and only giving one pre-recorded yet somehow still gaffe-riddled, discombobulated, 20-minute speech every day or so. Trump was like a warhorse on the battlefield and Biden was a hobbled donkey only capable of lying in a warm barn.

Lol OMG are you touching yourself again when you fantasize about warhorse Trump?

The closest thing to the truth in your drivel is that Trump was holding superspreader rallies during the pandemic when everyone else had the common sense not to. All aspiring dictators have a need to rant to throngs of their adoring followers even during breakouts of highly contagious disease. 

[BeaverFever]

On 6/21/2024 at 1:55 PM, WestCanMan said:

Leftards have always been making these BS accusations - without anyone ever diagnosing that in person - and Trump already passed a cognitive test since that line of BS came out.

And rightards make their BS accusations about Biden - without anyone diagnosing that in person -  and Biden passes his cognitive test. Donyou see your hypocrisy?  Of course you don’t  

 

On 6/21/2024 at 1:55 PM, WestCanMan said:

Again, you're comparing a guy who still speaks off the cuff for hours at a time, to a guy who only did pre-recorded 20-minute videos from his basement for his entire campaign, has been completely sheltered from media questions for 4 full years now, and didn't have to do rallies.

So you’re fixating on the fact that he wasn’t dumb and irresponsible enough to hold superspreader rallies at the start of the pandemic 4 years ago?  Hilarious. 

Nobody “has to do” rallies and “speaking off the cuff for hours at a time” is not the great feat you think it is:  it's the ultimate display of narcissism and what Hitler, Castro, Mussolini and other dictators were known for. 

 

On 6/21/2024 at 6:02 PM, CdnFox said:

A very tiny bit.  But biden is showing late stages of the same thing. Trump generally speaks very well and without a teleprompter even .  Biden struggles even with one.  And he becomes confused about where he is etc. 

I'm sorry, but while trump may be getting to 'that age' biden is very clearly past 'that age' and that will be an issue in the upcoming election. 

They are both far too old to be POTUS. America’s gerontocracy including Pelosi and McConnell who only recently stepped down due to health problems  is a symptom of American democratic decline in recent decades.
 

I don’t think anyone can say Trump speaks well. If you’re comparing him to Biden, maybe,  but the latter is more likely to be delivering a prepared speech while Trump just gives a meandering unhinged rant with no planned direction or purpose to adoring and uncritical followers so it’s hard to compare apples to apples. 

We know that even when Biden was young he was gaffe-prone. At the debates we will have a better comparison. 
 

Of course Biden’s age will be an issue, he will be 86 at the end of a second term which would have been unthinkable only a few years ago. But an unhinged mor0n like Trump also would have been unthinkable.  
 

Neither one is an ideal choice for President…simply being able to day that is proof Im not “Biden’s boy” contrary to your claims. But given the sinister motives of Trump and his pack of grifters and extremists, a  Biden administration with a figurehead POTUS being “handled” by his staff is the least worst option and possibly not even a first given what we know of Reagan’s second term. 

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[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

They are both far too old to be POTUS. America’s gerontocracy including Pelosi and McConnell who only recently stepped down due to health problems  is a symptom of American democratic decline in recent decades.

Arguably true for sure, but it's the choice americans seem to have given themselves this time out, and one of the two is very noticably feeling the effect of age more. So in a 'which one is too old' contest trump will have an edge. 

Unfortunately the US system tends to require power to be in the hands of the older politicians just by the way it's structured.  Canada tends to have much younger leaders because of it's structure. 

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I don’t think anyone can say Trump speaks well.

Anyone can say it. Of his many flaws, that's not one - he speaks well.

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If you’re comparing him to Biden, maybe,  but the latter is more likely to be delivering a prepared speech while Trump just gives a meandering unhinged rant with no planned direction or purpose to adoring and uncritical followers so it’s hard to compare apples to apples. 

It may seem like that to you but he's a master of working the crowd, reading the room and getting people excited and worked up and motivated, which is his purpose with this public speeches.  He is very talented. It may not be to your liking (or mine, i never watch them) but he is dead bang in the center circle of his target market. And that's no accident.

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Of course Biden’s age will be an issue, he will be 86 at the end of a second term which would have been unthinkable only a few years ago. But an unhinged mor0n like Trump also would have been unthinkable.  

well people are going to have to think about their unthinkables   But right now I think people that are sitting on the fence are finding Biden's age difficult to get over
 

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Neither one is an ideal choice for President…

Nope. There are no white hats here. People are choosing between not great and worse than not great and the answer to that boils down to individual priorities. But to be honest I haven't felt like America has had a great choice for a few in elections now. And I suspect it'll actually probably go a little downhill from here. Going to be, a DeSantis and Bernie Showdown? Shudder!

49 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

simply being able to day that is proof Im not “Biden’s boy”

Oh spare me  

In any case I honestly do believe that generally speaking overall when you take into account all factors trump is probably going to be the least damaging person. His economy will be better and stronger, is spending will be slightly less out of control, and around the world enemies of peace will be very cautious how about doing anything given his instabilities. But it will not be a quiet time nor will it be a harmonious time. He will not be bringing the nation together. Which it kind of needs but it's not going to get probably for some time to come. And we will see just how bad he weaponizes the courts in retaliation to what the democrats did. I could have some long-term effects

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The closest thing to the truth in your drivel is that Trump was holding superspreader rallies during the pandemic when everyone else had the common sense not to. All aspiring dictators have a need to rant to throngs of their adoring followers even during breakouts of highly contagious disease. 

The actual truth, dingus, is that Trump had the stamina to do as many as 3 rallies a day while being the actual president, and Biden couldn't even do one 20-minute, pre-recorded speech a day from the comfort of his own home. And even with his ultra-light schedule and pre-recorded speeches, he still couldn't avoid the gaffes. 

Trump is nowhere near that. It takes several hours of Trump's freestyle bloviating before he has even a minor gaffe. 

Biden's stupidity and overall uselessness has been a nexelsrent to America and the world in general. 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

and Biden passes his cognitive test. Donyou see your hypocrisy?  Of course you don’t  

Biden never passed a cognitive test. Theoretically he never took one, or he took one and he failed. The WH's only comment was "Dr Bobo said that Joe passes a cognitive test every day by only belching out word soup 30% of the time."

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So you’re fixating on the fact that he wasn’t dumb and irresponsible enough to hold superspreader rallies at the start of the pandemic 4 years ago?  Hilarious. 

The plandemic is still your only excuse for Biden not holding rallies? Why doesn't he do it now? Has he ever had a rally with 3,000 people?

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Nobody “has to do” rallies and “speaking off the cuff for hours at a time” is not the great feat you think it is:  it's the ultimate display of narcissism and what Hitler, Castro, Mussolini and other dictators were known for. 

I don't care how much you hate Trump's speeches: no one cares about the opinion of a brainwashed cultist. The fact is that he can do it. Biden can't even do 20 minutes. Biden is too weak and too frail to speak at length. By minute 15 the gaffes will start.

Right now Biden is laying around on massage tables and resting 24 hrs a day just to get ready for 1 debate. His blood will have more pharmaceuticals during the debate than Hunter has in a whole weekend bender. 

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They are both far too old to be POTUS.

What? You said Biduh wasn't too old this whole time, and Trump' basically the same age Biden was at the start of this term.

The only difference is that Trump is far more capable than Biden was at the same age.

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America’s gerontocracy including Pelosi and McConnell who only recently stepped down due to health problems  is a symptom of American democratic decline in recent decades.

I can't even believe that you brought up the topic of America's decline in democracy.

What do you think about the fact that the FBI lied and committed crimes to start the Russian collusion farce, and to keep it going? And that the FBI lied to prevent the laptop story from getting out before the last election? And that Obama weaponized the IRS? And that the MSM is all part of a global disinformation conglomerate? 

If they're not part of a disinformation conglomerate, then how were their messages all so consistent and so consistently wrong all throughout covid and the vax naziism phase? How were they all in lock step throughout the laptop fiasco and all so wrong again? 

It's not like the facts weren't out there, they just ignored the facts and went with the same BS narratives. 

Is it really possible that I knew more than the whole MSM for 4 years? That's either incredible or worrisome, and I've never been accused of having an IQ over 200. 

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I don’t think anyone can say Trump speaks well. If you’re comparing him to Biden, maybe,  but the latter is more likely to be delivering a prepared speech while Trump just gives a meandering unhinged rant with no planned direction or purpose to adoring and uncritical followers so it’s hard to compare apples to apples. 

That's a rare confession from you, I'm kind of blown away.

The truth is that not many can talk at length like Trump can and still hold an audience. It's partly because he has the gift of gab, but more likely he is saying things that need to be said and no one else has the ba11s to say them.

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We know that even when Biden was young he was gaffe-prone. At the debates we will have a better comparison. 

Biden was lie-prone. His story about being the first college-educated person in his family, from a long line of coal miners was a pure work of fiction. There are no miners in his family and he had plenty of educated family members ahead of him. 

He also doesn't have multiple degrees and he didn't graduate at the top of his class. His lies are on a bizarre scale. 

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Of course Biden’s age will be an issue, he will be 86 at the end of a second term which would have been unthinkable only a few years ago.

It's unthinkable that he was elected in 2020. It's a blight on democracy.

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But an unhinged mor0n like Trump also would have been unthinkable.

Trump had one of the most successful presidencies since the war years. There's not much to debate about that.

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 Neither one is an ideal choice for President…simply being able to day that is proof Im not “Biden’s boy” contrary to your claims. But given the sinister motives of Trump and his pack of grifters and extremists, a  Biden administration with a figurehead POTUS being “handled” by his staff is the least worst option and possibly not even a first given what we know of Reagan’s second term. 

Gawd what a lemming you are. 

[WestCanMan]

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6355559317112

1. Biden getting lost for words, again. 
2. More about the "cheapfake" disinformation campaign

[gatomontes99]

It's cheap because we can all record him with our cameras on our phones. It's fake because it's really really damning and they can't let the truth get out.

[Nationalist]

On 6/21/2024 at 9:41 AM, Rebound said:

The GOP tries to excuse its criminal and unethical actions by accusing Democrats of doing that the GOP is doing.  
 

They excuse Trump’s actual felony convictions by accusing Democrats of felonies… without any evidence.  We’re all sick and tired of Hunter’s laptop and we know if there was evidence of actual crime, he’d have been charged by the Republican prosecutor appointed by Donald Trump, who Biden left in charge of the investigation.  

Says the fascist...

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The actual truth, dingus, is that Trump had the stamina to do as many as 3 rallies a day while being the actual president, and Biden couldn't even do one 20-minute, pre-recorded speech a day from the comfort of his own home. And even with his ultra-light schedule and pre-recorded speeches, he still couldn't avoid the gaffes. 

Trump is nowhere near that. It takes several hours of Trump's freestyle bloviating before he has even a minor gaffe. 

Biden's stupidity and overall uselessness has been a nexelsrent to America and the world in general. 

Biden very wisely had a campaign that basically involved not showing up. Making the election all about trump was exactly the right strategy. Especially with the wonderful excuse that covid provided.

But that isn't going to work this time. He is the president, the election is going to be largely about his track record. You can't hide in his basement and claim that he doesn't want to come out in case he gets the sniffles.

If trump is smart he will make it all about biting this time. Hammer home every single way that Biden failed and what america deserves instead. Minimize yourself and maximize Biden screw ups