Gay Pride Season.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Black Dog said:

Yes the compromise was between normal people who wanted booze and prot freaks who did not.

 

in Ontario at the time, Orange Protestants were the normal people

filthy Papists and whatnot were in the minority

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Look, we get that you’re a gay activist who thinks the world owes you something, but your toxicity isn’t winning any support, except Hardner’s (though I think you’re Hardner).

So no one asked you to leave the beach?

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 except Hardner’s (though I think you’re Hardner).

I think you are far too hard on Hardner

he's just a Robert Stanfield Conservative

which buy American standards makes him a Commie

but by Canadian standards, that's about as right wing as it gets in the mainstream

[Zeitgeist]

46 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

see the problem is not so much that the Progressives are in essence a cult

the problem is that the cult is now deeply integrated into every institution in Canada, public & private

and I would estimate that this cult is a minority

I would surmise that two thirds of the population not only opposes it,

but actually views it to be degenerate lunacy

but that is in fact inciting two thirds of the population to turn against every institution in Canada

That’s exactly right.  All of this cultural revolutionary push to indoctrinate kids and organizations to be woke lunatics is slowly but surely destabilizing Western Civilization unless and until there’s a massive reaction.  If people are forced to act and speak differently than they actually think, we’re back to the catacombs and Solidarity movement, because people can only handle so much oppression before they fight back.  Once enough people speak out and unite publicly, it’s game over for the woke lunatics — we hope.

Edited June 18, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

in Ontario at the time, Orange Protestants were the normal people

filthy Papists and whatnot were in the minority

And boy have times changed for the better.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

I think you are far too hard on Hardner

he's just a Robert Stanfield Conservative

which buy American standards makes him a Commie

but by Canadian standards, that's about as right wing as it gets in the mainstream

He’s too much of an equivocator and apologist for weak governance.  

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

He’s too much of an equivocator and apologist for weak governance.  

he's a Loyalist,  Constitutional Monarchist

he's a British Unitarian whom acknowledges Jesus Christ as the saviour of mankind, tho not supernatural

he acknowledges that the Progressives are in essence a lunatic cult

that makes him a right wing nutjob by Commie Canadian standards

 

[Zeitgeist]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

he's a Loyalist,  Constitutional Monarchist

he's a British Unitarian whom acknowledges Jesus Christ as the saviour of mankind, tho not supernatural

he acknowledges that the Progressives are in essence a lunatic cult

that makes him a right wing nutjob by Commie Canadian standards

 

I guess I no longer support those standards.  I think Canada has lost its way.  We had it pretty good until the mid-2010’s.  

Edited June 18, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I guess I no longer support those standards.  I think Canada has lost its way.  We had it pretty good until the mid-2010’s.  

oh I agree

I am in agreement with you in almost all things except Popery

but I don't think we should throw the Hardner under the bus

I find him to be quite reasonable and respectful, I enjoy conversing with him, even if we disagree

it's not like he and I are diametrically opposed

Peace of the Canada's, Toronto the Good, God save the King

[Zeitgeist]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

oh I agree

I am in agreement with you in almost all things except Popery

but I don't think we should throw the Hardner under the bus

I find him to be quite reasonable and respectful, I enjoy conversing with him, even if we disagree

it's not like he and I are diametrically opposed

Peace of the Canada's, Toronto the Good, God save the King

Yeah he’s okay.  What’s that old book: I’m okay. You’re okay.

Edited June 18, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[impartialobserver]

40 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Because the activists supporting this newly “protected class” are militant, moneyed, and great at shaming people and businesses/organizations.

The other day I went to one of the most beautiful beaches in Southern Ontario only to be greeted by a massive pride flag and a sign that said, “You are entering a queer space.”  Firstly, I didn’t know spaces and objects can be queer.  Secondly, what is any group doing claiming beaches or other valued public spaces for their own?

I watched a puzzled Indian family leave the beach that they wanted to enjoy on a sunny day. There were no naked men walking with their dicks flapping in the breeze, just a mostly empty beach with its new dictates.

It reminded me of black drinking fountains in the south or clubs where no Jews or Catholics are allowed.  What bizarre group of radicals is twisting arms at City Hall?  

So then what is your explanation as to why these story hours began in 2012 with zero protesters. They were somewhat well attended and there was no militancy. The protests (at least in my neck of the woods) came on in 2023. 

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I guess I no longer support those standards.

you do realize that you have become an American Republican in the classical sense

Glorious Union to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying, John Brown

"I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel
"As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal"
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel
Since God is marching on'

 

I certainly welcome you to the fold, brother

 

but think back to how extreme that would have seemed to you,  when you were still a moderated Canadian

 

[Zeitgeist]

9 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So then what is your explanation as to why these story hours began in 2012 with zero protesters. They were somewhat well attended and there was no militancy. The protests (at least in my neck of the woods) came on in 2023. 

I think when we started hearing trans activists in pride parades say things like, “We’re coming for your children”, combined with rhetoric in DEI training like “gender-normative” and “the patriarchy” (happening in virtually all government departments and big businesses), people started to feel a real threat to their values, especially when it comes to child-rearing, free expression, religious rights, women’s rights, and even scientific facts.  Basically people are realizing that they are being pushed in directions that they don’t want to move, and for valid reasons.

Edited June 18, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yeah he’s okay.  What’s that old book: I’m okay. You’re okay.

well I remember when you were accusing me of being a "Russian Troll"

just for saying the things that you post in every thread now

in fact, you are far more sympathetic to the Kremlin then I would ever be, 

I am still a Neoconservative Cold Warrior, and always was

so that was quite the transformation

at one point, I was a godless atheist hedonist, now I am a Pentecostal

it's not like Hardner is a Devil worshipping Communist traitor

so there is still hope for him, even until the last breath

[Zeitgeist]

10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well I remember when you were accusing me of being a "Russian Troll"

just for saying the things that you post in every thread now

in fact, you are far more sympathetic to the Kremlin then I would ever be, 

I am still a Neoconservative Cold Warrior, and always was

so that was quite the transformation

at one point, I was a godless atheist hedonist, now I am a Pentecostal

it's not like Hardner is a Devil worshipping Communist traitor

so there is still hope for him, even until the last breath

I’ll take that criticism.  I think I’m probably ideologically aligned with that new Argentinian leader.  In fairness, the world is quite different today than it was several years ago.  I think like many Canadians I was naive.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

I’ll take that criticism.  I think I’m probably ideologically aligned with that new Argentinian leader.  In fairness, the world is quite different today than it was several years ago.  I think like many Canadians I was naive.

it's not criticism

you are my greatest Evangelical achievement

the only person on the internet whom I ever convinced

but now that you have seen the light

I turn to follow you, because tho I am filled with zeal, you are much wiser than me

Baldwin & Lanfontaine in real time

praise the Lord

 

[impartialobserver]

39 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think when we started hearing trans activists in pride parades say things like, “We’re coming for your children”, combined with rhetoric in DEI training like “gender-normative” and “the patriarchy” (happening in virtually all government departments and big businesses), people started to feel a real threat to their values, especially when it comes to child-rearing, free expression, religious rights, women’s rights, and even scientific facts.  Basically people are realizing that they are being pushed in directions that they don’t want to move, and for valid reasons.

So in short the actions of a few made you think that this represents the whole. When pressed with evidence about how the children were not being touched nor were the stories sexually explicit.. the protesters complained that they were being brainwashed. Brainwashing demands a lot longer than 15 minutes and when the kids are mostly bored out of their skulls.. that is some pi$$ poor brainwashing. 

[Michael Hardner]

44 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

people started to feel ...

Feelings.

Nothing more than feelings.

 

I'm being flip but there should be a feelings zone for politics, on both sides...

[Dougie93]

21 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

 I think I’m probably ideologically aligned with that new Argentinian leader.

I was with him 100%

right up to the threshold wherein he asserted that the Falkland Islands are Argentine

at which point, the oath to the British Crown stands betwixt us

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

So in short the actions of a few made you think that this represents the whole. When pressed with evidence about how the children were not being touched nor were the stories sexually explicit.. the protesters complained that they were being brainwashed. Brainwashing demands a lot longer than 15 minutes and when the kids are mostly bored out of their skulls.. that is some pi$$ poor brainwashing. 

It’s about a lot more than guys in drag doing story time. It’s a wide swath of beliefs, training and policies based on identity and sexual orientation. It’s an attack on the values that are foundational to Western democracies. It’s a melange of radical ideas about race and gender tied to Marxist ideas about class conflict and how to fix it. Basically groups of people have been selected for special treatment, and any means that the directors of this project deem necessary to achieve equal outcomes are justified.  There’s also a total lack of respect for differences of opinion and beliefs.

Edited June 18, 2024 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

And boy have times changed for the better.

indeed, the Trans Commie Pope is bringing you down from within, Fenians

Huzzah !

[impartialobserver]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s about a lot more than guys in drag doing story time. It’s a wide swath of beliefs, training and policies based on identity and sexual orientation. It’s an attack on the values that are foundational to Western democracies. It’s a melange of radical ideas about race and gender tied to Marxist ideas about class conflict and how to fix it. Basically groups of people have been selected for special treatment, and any means that the directors of this project deem necessary to achieve equal outcomes are justified.  There’s also a total lack of respect for differences of opinion and beliefs.

not sure how having a legal parade is giving anyone special treatment. The conservative groups could apply for the permit and would receive them. Would their parade be as well attended? Probably not. But that is a whole other ball of wax. None of which you can blame on government. If you do not like the gay pride parade.. then simply do not attend it. Seems pretty simple to me. 

[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

And boy have times changed for the better.

fastest growing denomination in Latin America : Protestantism

nearly one in five in Latin America (19%) now assert that they are Protestants

the Nazarene in on the march against Tiberius Caesar, in the heartland of Popery itself

[Zeitgeist]

16 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

not sure how having a legal parade is giving anyone special treatment. The conservative groups could apply for the permit and would receive them. Would their parade be as well attended? Probably not. But that is a whole other ball of wax. None of which you can blame on government. If you do not like the gay pride parade.. then simply do not attend it. Seems pretty simple to me. 

Can I remove the pride flag on the front lawn of the organization?  

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Can I remove the pride flag on the front lawn of the organization?  

My guess is no but then you do not have to look at it. In my hometown of Boise, Idaho.. there is a large cross on a plateau northeast of town. I am a lifelong atheist.. should I be able to remove that? Or can I simple ignore it and move on.