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They are going to keep pushing and pushing and being more and more violent until somebody cracks down on them and starts busting some heads. The demonstrations are out of control, we've let them assault our political figures without consequence, it's time to take it seriously.

 

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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They are going to keep pushing and pushing and being more and more violent until somebody cracks down on them and starts busting some heads. The demonstrations are out of control, we've let them assault our political figures without consequence, it's time to take it seriously.

 

They say it's too early to determine if it's a hate crime. 

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1 hour ago, West said:

They say it's too early to determine if it's a hate crime. 

Well of course it is. I mean you can't tell just because they're saying that they should kill the Jews. You can't tell just because they shoot at the Jews. Even killing the Jews is probably not enough. You have to check and see whether or not they whiz on the Jews dead corpse first. Then maybe. Unless they can prove they have a bladder condition

I mean we can't rush to any conclusions right?

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5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

How many public schools get vandalized?

Where I live, at least on a week but hey, that ain't news LOL

Really?  Shooting bullets into a school is 'vandalizing' it? Pretty much the same as spray painting the side?

You need me to explain why that comment was ridiculous or can you work it out in hindsight?

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Really?  Shooting bullets into a school is 'vandalizing' it? Pretty much the same as spray painting the side?

You need me to explain why that comment was ridiculous or can you work it out in hindsight?

Deflection is your specialty.

The simple question was "How many public schools get vandalized? "

I need to explain nothing, I asked a question.

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26 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Deflection is your specialty.

The simple question was "How many public schools get vandalized? "

I need to explain nothing, I asked a question.

Doesn't firing 5 rounds of bullets into a school sort of send a different type of message than someone spray painting or busting a few windows? It's a pretty dumb question if you ask me.

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30 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Deflection is your specialty.

Yeah....  that's not actually what 'deflection' is. It means something else. I'm afraid your word-of-the-day calendar has failed you. :) 

 

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The simple question was "How many public schools get vandalized? "

And my simple question is "are you trying to dismiss shooting up a school "Vandalization"?"

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I need to explain nothing, I asked a question.

Of COURSE you need to clarify your question.  You'd have to be a complete dolt to think you don't have to clarify your question if asked to. 

Oh. Wait....   I guess that means you don't :) 

This is a story about a school being shot up.  You have said that this is no big deal because "vandalism" is common. 

So it's entirely fair to ask if your intent is to classify people firing guns at a school as being "vandalism", akin to spray painting graffiti or the like. Because that is what it sounds like, so if that's not accurate explain what you mean

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1 hour ago, suds said:

Doesn't firing 5 rounds of bullets into a school sort of send a different type of message than someone spray painting or busting a few windows? It's a pretty dumb question if you ask me.

There is all sorts of issues and all I asked was  "How many public schools get vandalized? " 

Regardless of how it was done. Other schools have been shot at.

Mosques have also been vandalized. The muslim vs jew has been ongoing and will continue.

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah....  that's not actually what 'deflection' is. It means something else. I'm afraid your word-of-the-day calendar has failed you. :) 

 

And my simple question is "are you trying to dismiss shooting up a school "Vandalization"?"

Of COURSE you need to clarify your question.  You'd have to be a complete dolt to think you don't have to clarify your question if asked to. 

Oh. Wait....   I guess that means you don't :) 

This is a story about a school being shot up.  You have said that this is no big deal because "vandalism" is common. 

So it's entirely fair to ask if your intent is to classify people firing guns at a school as being "vandalism", akin to spray painting graffiti or the like. Because that is what it sounds like, so if that's not accurate explain what you mean

 I did not intend to imply that shooting up a school is equivalent to vandalism. Nor did I dismiss anything. I asked a question which yoyu do not want or seem to be able to answer. Vandalism typically involves the intentional destruction or damage of property, whereas shooting up a school is  serious.. My previous statement was a question and I could not have been more clear  I condemn any act of violence or harm towards individuals, particularly children, and acknowledge that such incidents are not "no big deal."

But vandalism escalates...

Oh and, I do not "classify" , I asked a simple question which you are unable to answer.

Is this anti sematism. or anti catholic or anti school???

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/shots-fired-at-ottawa-catholic-elementary-school-sunday-evening-1.6765241

 

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14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Is this anti sematism. or anti catholic or anti school???

The fact is there have been far more acts of antisemitism and hate against Jews in the west since the Oct. 7.  The occupations and protests against Israel which have been widespread are all related to the high amount of antisemitism.

You should know that.  That is the reason this particular act is of major concern.  

Why are you trying to downplay it or cloud the issue with a diversion about some other incident?  I think the reason is obvious.

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10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The fact is there have been far more acts of antisemitism and hate against Jews in the west since the Oct. 7.  The occupations and protests against Israel which have been widespread are all related to the high amount of antisemitism.

You should know that.  That is the reason this particular act is of major concern.  

Why are you trying to downplay it or cloud the issue with a diversion about some other incident?  I think the reason is obvious.

Yada yada yada.

Odd that the Palestinians seem to be garnering more sympathy and support from non palestinan people and countries. I guess, according to you, they are all anti semites.

Oh and "downplaying"? I ask a question that no one seems to be able to answer and you all have hissy fits LOL

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Odd that the Palestinians seem to be garnering more sympathy and support from non palestinan people and countries. I guess, according to you, they are all anti semites.

 

Nothing "odd" about it.  The world in general has been antisemitic for 1,500 years or more.  

You need to study some history.

Why do you think one third of the Jews in Europe were murdered in the Holocaust?  You think that antisemitism was only with the Nazis in the Holocaust?  Antisemitism has been going on in Europe for nearly two thousand years.

Why do you think some countries in Europe today voted in favour of recognizing a "Palestinian state" after the savage Hamas attack on October 7th?   A kind of reward for their behavior?  Or just more antisemitism?

 

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7 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Odd that the Palestinians seem to be garnering more sympathy and support from non palestinan people and countries.

Yes, because there are a lot of antisemites in the world who do not recognize Israel's right to exist and defend itself.

Some European countries even recently recognized a (non-existent) Palestinian state.  The U.N. did the same kind of thing.

Netanyahu says recognition of a Palestinian state 'is a reward for terrorism' | Watch (msn.com)

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1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Yes and I will say it again. Yada yada yada.

And then you quote X as a reliable and valid source??? Yada yada yada LOL

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

Nothing "odd" about it.  The world in general has been antisemitic for 1,500 years or more.  

You need to study some history.

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Ya gotta wonder why this is. Or you know??

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1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Ya gotta wonder why this is. Or you know??

Yes, there are lots of websites describing it.  It can be quite involved.  There are different angles to it.   However, it is never excusable.

"Anti-Semitism, sometimes called history’s oldest hatred, is hostility or prejudice against Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust is history’s most extreme example of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times. In much of Europe throughout the Middle Ages, Jewish people were denied citizenship and forced to live in ghettos. Anti-Jewish riots called pogroms swept the Russian Empire during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and anti-Semitic incidents have increased in parts of Europe, the Middle East and North America in the last several years."

Anti-Semitism - Definition, Meaning & Reasons For (history.com)

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8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 I did not intend to imply that shooting up a school is equivalent to vandalism. Nor did I dismiss anything. I asked a question which yoyu do not want or seem to be able to answer.

 

if you are associating this event with vandalism then you are implying an equvilance 

So - your question about how many schools get vanadalized had NOTHING to do with this shooting incident? Rather odd you'd bring it up then. You might as well ask how many people ride the bus without paying the fare. Not really relevant i guess. 

I can tell you how many schools get shot up seeing as we agree that's a different thing -  NONE usually. 

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12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Yes, there are lots of websites describing it.  It can be quite involved.  There are different angles to it.   However, it is never excusable.

"Anti-Semitism, sometimes called history’s oldest hatred, is hostility or prejudice against Jewish people. The Nazi Holocaust is history’s most extreme example of anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism did not begin with Adolf Hitler: Anti-Semitic attitudes date back to ancient times. In much of Europe throughout the Middle Ages, Jewish people were denied citizenship and forced to live in ghettos. Anti-Jewish riots called pogroms swept the Russian Empire during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, and anti-Semitic incidents have increased in parts of Europe, the Middle East and North America in the last several years."

Anti-Semitism - Definition, Meaning & Reasons For (history.com)

The point was, in response to your comment about 1500 years of anti semitism (in fact, the words anti semitism did not exist till late 1800's).

My question is why is it like that?  Worldwide? So few people yet so many dislike them? Why? What did they do to become so disliked? Is everybody so wrong? Why?

I do not dislike the jews, nor the muslims, nor the arabs nor the chinese nor anyone.  I may dislike someone but that is an individual dislike, not an entire religion or race.

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

if you are associating this event with vandalism then you are implying an equvilance 

So - your question about how many schools get vanadalized had NOTHING to do with this shooting incident? Rather odd you'd bring it up then. You might as well ask how many people ride the bus without paying the fare. Not really relevant i guess. 

I can tell you how many schools get shot up seeing as we agree that's a different thing -  NONE usually. 

You must have missed the link where a catholic school was fired at 5 times.... as usual, it does not fit your narrative.

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2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

My question is why is it like that?  Worldwide? So few people yet so many dislike them? Why? What did they do to become so disliked? Is everybody so wrong? Why?

I gave you the website that explains all that.  What is the problem in reading it?  Not much else I can do.  

Do you expect me to go through all the material and select one or two sentences to try spoon feed it to you?

You obviously don't care or don't want to know.  

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3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You must have missed the link where a catholic school was fired at 5 times.... as usual, it does not fit your narrative.

weekly? That was  your claim. 

And still can't really seem to explain why you brought up vandalism can you :P  

As much as you tried to blow this off as 'no big deal' suggesting it happens all the time, we both know that's an utter fail of an argument and this is a big deal. 

Maybe tell your buddies that shooting up schools is over a line. 

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