shoop Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 No way. The Liberals would have to swing left to satisfy their base and keep the NDPs from bolting again. Kinda random argument though. The NDP isn't going anywhere. Though without an NDP, the CPC would never have power again. Forcing the NDP supporters to vote Liberal would make a powerhouse party that could never be defeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hicksey Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 No way. The Liberals would have to swing left to satisfy their base and keep the NDPs from bolting again.Kinda random argument though. The NDP isn't going anywhere. Though without an NDP, the CPC would never have power again. Forcing the NDP supporters to vote Liberal would make a powerhouse party that could never be defeated. If the NDP were dissolved, its members would likely become the vocal minority of the Liberal Party and draw the party further left and would leave a bigger hole (read:swing vote) in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamStranger Posted February 19, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Howcome when someone gives their oppinions everyone respects it and doesnt resort to insults. But when I give my opinion, because im the "new guy" you guys hassle me. Thats not fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toro Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I honestly believe that NDP supporters are mainly Socialists, Left Leaning Liberals, the Poor, and the STUPID... Well, there are a few bright ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margrace Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I honestly believe that NDP supporters are mainly Socialists, Left Leaning Liberals, the Poor, and the STUPID... sick :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I honestly believe that NDP supporters are mainly Socialists, Left Leaning Liberals, the Poor, and the STUPID... sick :angry: I don't think that's sick- I think it's an expression of a Charter right (Y'know, the Charter that the Lefties love so much...) It's called the right to a free opinion, and free speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uOttawaMan Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoop Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 So you believe in the right to vote, but not to express your ideas freely? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml12 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Canada is multi-party in name only. Even most Bloc/NDP supporters I know understand that. If you're not a Liberal/Conservative supporter and your party isn't going to win your riding, you'd be a damn fool not to vote strategically (unless of course, your party needs that $1.75)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uOttawaMan Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 So you believe in the right to vote, but not to express your ideas freely? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Ahh there is a difference between expressing your views, such as campaigning and advertising, and taking away choices for people to vote for simply because you find it "annoying". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoop Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 But aren't they both rights that should be protected? Ahh there is a difference between expressing your views, such as campaigning and advertising, and taking away choices for people to vote for simply because you find it "annoying". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politika Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Since you like keeping your voting rights how about leting me keep mine FREE SPEECH. If I think we shoud change our voting system to the United States thats my right to think so not yours. Oh yes i do support CPC! I just happan to think its a good idea, considering the NDP will never gain power . Whats this marxist lenist part? I know who they are but these guys most municipalaities cant even vote for them because they are not an official part nor do they have a single seat its a dead cause like the mariwana and the green party, alhtough greens were close By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politika Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 So you believe in the right to vote, but not to express your ideas freely? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Ahh there is a difference between expressing your views, such as campaigning and advertising, and taking away choices for people to vote for simply because you find it "annoying". It still is my oppinion, last time I checked this was a forum where people presented their conflicting views and peacefully debate about it, not bash people because they have a different view. Who gives you the right to say this is not expressing my views? are you the dictator of Canada now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost&outofcontrol Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 It still is my oppinion, last time I checked this was a forum where people presented their conflicting views and peacefully debate about it, not bash people because they have a different view. and By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! Keep up the good work politika.... (an actual use for the rolleyes smillie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uOttawaMan Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 WoW you're all real intellectual badasses. "I can post my radical ideas here, eliminating political parties and such, but when somone disagrees with us, lets gang up on him!" I think I'm gonna start a new thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uOttawaMan Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Since you like keeping your voting rights how about leting me keep mine FREE SPEECH. If I think we shoud change our voting system to the United States thats my right to think so not yours. Oh yes i do support CPC! I just happan to think its a good idea, considering the NDP will never gain power . Whats this marxist lenist part? I know who they are but these guys most municipalaities cant even vote for them because they are not an official part nor do they have a single seat its a dead cause like the mariwana and the green party, alhtough greens were close By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! That doesn't even make sense.. we should get rid of a party because it will never "gain power"... think up a concrete reason and get back to me. I'm just as welcome here as you are, so you can stick it in your eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml12 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Since you like keeping your voting rights how about leting me keep mine FREE SPEECH. If I think we shoud change our voting system to the United States thats my right to think so not yours. Oh yes i do support CPC! I just happan to think its a good idea, considering the NDP will never gain power . Whats this marxist lenist part? I know who they are but these guys most municipalaities cant even vote for them because they are not an official part nor do they have a single seat its a dead cause like the mariwana and the green party, alhtough greens were close By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! That doesn't even make sense.. we should get rid of a party because it will never "gain power"... think up a concrete reason and get back to me. I'm just as welcome here as you are, so you can stick it in your eye. You're right uOttawaman about the NDP...it should exist, of course. However I am glad you realize that the NDP will never gain power and, by effect, is about as notable as the Green Party except in minority gov't circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uOttawaMan Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Since you like keeping your voting rights how about leting me keep mine FREE SPEECH. If I think we shoud change our voting system to the United States thats my right to think so not yours. Oh yes i do support CPC! I just happan to think its a good idea, considering the NDP will never gain power . Whats this marxist lenist part? I know who they are but these guys most municipalaities cant even vote for them because they are not an official part nor do they have a single seat its a dead cause like the mariwana and the green party, alhtough greens were close By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! That doesn't even make sense.. we should get rid of a party because it will never "gain power"... think up a concrete reason and get back to me. I'm just as welcome here as you are, so you can stick it in your eye. You're right uOttawaman about the NDP...it should exist, of course. However I am glad you realize that the NDP will never gain power and, by effect, is about as notable as the Green Party except in minority gov't circumstances. Of course I know that, my whole point is that saying we should get rid of political parties because they aren't "big" enough is just asking for one big mono-party state. I know it sounds like fear mongering, but when you start abolishing parts of democracy where does it end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml12 Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Ottawa, This is scary but... I back you on that (am I now eligible for immigration status to your country... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
politika Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Yes, Layton runs aorund like he owns the plays with a small 40 Aprox. seat count. It is riduclus. Layton will never have power so why does he bother campaigning wasting tax payers money. In my oppinion I think our election system should change. I think we should only have two national parties the Conservatives and the Liberals, and in order to become a national party you would have to get more seats than one of the two national parties. I think it would work well any way it would save Canadians from wasting votes anyways. What do you think? I think that's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Stop telling people who they should be allowed to vote for. If they want to vote for the Marxist-Leninist Party, they damn well have the right to, if they want to vote for the CPC , they have the right to. This is Canada, not the US. Two party systems are fricking awful. Never bring forth that idea again. Since you like keeping your voting rights how about leting me keep mine FREE SPEECH. If I think we shoud change our voting system to the United States thats my right to think so not yours. Oh yes i do support CPC! I just happan to think its a good idea, considering the NDP will never gain power . Whats this marxist lenist part? I know who they are but these guys most municipalaities cant even vote for them because they are not an official part nor do they have a single seat its a dead cause like the mariwana and the green party, alhtough greens were close By the way ottawa ive read through your posts, your oppinion arnt welcome here! the people just find you annoying! That doesn't even make sense.. we should get rid of a party because it will never "gain power"... think up a concrete reason and get back to me. I'm just as welcome here as you are, so you can stick it in your eye. God man, the NDP arn't goign anywhere but the topic of this thread is "TIME TO GET RID OF THE NDP" Im just replying my oppinion to it. Its only an oppinion and I shared my concrete reason why I think they should not have power and it is becuase we should mov emore to a US democracy, again its not going to happan unless I am PM but its an idea, Im glad you support the left and dont wory old jackos staying where he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montgomery Burns Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Sam, I probably loathe the NDP as much as you do...but why do you want them rid? Let the free market (voters) decide. You know damn well that they haven't a hope in Hell of winning the Federal election. They are intolerant socialists blinded by their lockstep ideology who have no chance of winning the Prime Ministership. Provincial elections is another story though.... (I live in Calvert's Cuba--Saskatchewan) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 You know damn well that they haven't a hope in Hell of winning the Federal election That what they said about the old Reformers. Maybe the NDP could change its name a couple of times, spruce up its leadership and voila. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 You know damn well that they haven't a hope in Hell of winning the Federal election That what they said about the old Reformers. Maybe the NDP could change its name a couple of times, spruce up its leadership and voila. Who knows? Or merge with the Liberals? Otherwise they are just too ridiculous and idealistic to be taken serious by Canadians that like having a job and a house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost&outofcontrol Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Or merge with the Liberals? Otherwise they are just too ridiculous and idealistic to be taken serious by Canadians that like having a job and a house (my bold). Oh come on geoffrey, do you seriously believe this or are you just insulting people who vote NDP?! That has been the only arguments put forward by you and others in these forums other than the NDP = Communist TERRARR!!!11!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffrey Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 Or merge with the Liberals? Otherwise they are just too ridiculous and idealistic to be taken serious by Canadians that like having a job and a house (my bold). Oh come on geoffrey, do you seriously believe this or are you just insulting people who vote NDP?! That has been the only arguments put forward by you and others in these forums other than the NDP = Communist TERRARR!!!11!! I do seriously believe this. If you take the NDP word for word from their platform, I can guarntee massive unemployment and a flight of business to the US/EU. I know I wouldn't be sticking around to do business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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