Guest Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 Well, its effective. The US is peeing its pants over it, so they may just be able to get one of Israel's largest allies to leave them high and dry. Perfect for their enemies to pounce on them and do as much retaliatory damage as possible on the far more isolated state. Iran is playing chess. Quote
Legato Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 10 hours ago, Perspektiv said: Well, its effective. The US is peeing its pants over it, so they may just be able to get one of Israel's largest allies to leave them high and dry. Perfect for their enemies to pounce on them and do as much retaliatory damage as possible on the far more isolated state. Iran is playing chess. The Iranian chessboard has one King/Bishop and a bunch of pawns. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 (edited) Islamic Republic is a paper tiger not Iran. The title of this thread is nonsense and misleading and shows lack of knowledge of the poster. Iran is not a paper tiger. The imposed murderous IRCG is a paper tiger. These bastards can only murder defenseless unarmed innocent young civilians, mainly women on streets of Iranian towns and cities that when they face an armed enemy the lose face. 99% of their flying birds were destroyed in the air before reaching targets, Even if someone sends flying toys into targets, more will succeed. But Iran which is a NOT an Arab country, is an ancient civilization of over 2500 years of history and its population increasingly against the Islamic Republic and the f*cking ideology that they forcefully impose which includes attacking women and children. It is time for the West to realize that Islamic Republic and its paramilitary IRCG are paper tiger and they must remove this cancerous cell by all available means without hurting the civilian population which is pro-West and has no quarrel with Israel. Edited April 17 by CITIZEN_2015 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 Much of the Iranian population is not on board with the religious leadership. But much of it is as well. We've seen the Iranians elect more realistic, less fanatical leaders. But the ayatolas (sp?) quickly end any notions of more liberal ideologies. Thus it stands to reason that the religious leadership needs to be dealt a fatal blow. But can that be accomplished without inflicting casualties on the public? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Much of the Iranian population is not on board with the religious leadership. But much of it is as well. We've seen the Iranians elect more realistic, less fanatical leaders. But the ayatolas (sp?) quickly end any notions of more liberal ideologies. Thus it stands to reason that the religious leadership needs to be dealt a fatal blow. But can that be accomplished without inflicting casualties on the public? Â Latest opinion poll says 80% of population want a regime change to a secular one. The other 20% are either religious idi*ts or paid mercenaries by oil revenues and they brutally suppress the rest of nation. Yes block Iranian ports with advanced navy and fighter jets of US and Western Europe, including nuclear submarines and torpedo any ship carrying Iranian goods either from Iran or for Iran. Block Iranian export and import including export of oil, Shoot down any plane carrying goods for Iran. Stay in International waters but sink Iranian ships. Regime uses the huge oil and gas revenue to pay its murderous mercenaries and without them it will fall. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Â Latest opinion poll says 80% of population want a regime change to a secular one. The other 20% are either religious idi*ts or paid mercenaries by oil revenues and they brutally suppress the rest of nation. Yes block Iranian ports with advanced navy and fighter jets of US and Western Europe, including nuclear submarines and torpedo any ship carrying Iranian goods either from Iran or for Iran. Block Iranian export and import including export of oil, Shoot down any plane carrying goods for Iran. Stay in International waters but sink Iranian ships. Regime uses the huge oil and gas revenue to pay its murderous mercenaries and without them it will fall. And watch oil prices skyrocket globally. If the greenie BS could be ignored and fossil fuels allowed to flow...maybe. But as it stands now, such a move would make things worse for everyone. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 54 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And watch oil prices skyrocket globally. If the greenie BS could be ignored and fossil fuels allowed to flow...maybe. But as it stands now, such a move would make things worse for everyone. This is not true. It can be easy made up by other countries like Saudi Arabia who has the capacity to replace Iranian loss. Islamic Republic is an existential threat to the whole world, in particular the country of Iran (because many loyal provinces now wish to separate after 2500 years because of this regime's actions), Israel and also the West. Paying a bit of price to get rid of these bastards worth it. Just find the balls. Hopefully Trump will do it. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 49 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: This is not true. It can be easy made up by other countries like Saudi Arabia who has the capacity to replace Iranian loss. Islamic Republic is an existential threat to the whole world, in particular the country of Iran (because many loyal provinces now wish to separate after 2500 years because of this regime's actions), Israel and also the West. Paying a bit of price to get rid of these bastards worth it. Just find the balls. Hopefully Trump will do it. Hopefully Trump will "drill baby drill" and so will Polievre. THEN, once fuel prices subside to a normal level, Iran can be surrounded and cut off. Any attempt to do so at this time will result in oil prices skyrocketing. With that, global inflation. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Hopefully Trump will "drill baby drill" and so will Polievre. THEN, once fuel prices subside to a normal level, Iran can be surrounded and cut off. Any attempt to do so at this time will result in oil prices skyrocketing. With that, global inflation. Right now Saudi oil export is 8 million barrels a day. Islamic Republic is exporting one and a half million barrel a day under Biden's cowardly appeasement policy. Saudis can easily raise their export in a few days to 10 million to replace Iranian oil. In the Persian Gulf war when Iraqi oil export was stopped they did the same. There will be no hike in fuel prices even now but right now we have a coward in the White House so it won't happen. Blocking Islamic Republic export will be the no-casualty alternative, Only those ships carrying Iranian oil or goods will be sank if they ignore the blockage which will be very unlikely. Iranian ships and planes will be sank and shot down too, easy only if they try to intervene but they are part of Islamic Republic military and paramilitary and no one will cry for them. Edited April 17 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Right now Saudi oil export is 8 million barrels a day. Islamic Republic is exporting one and a half million barrel a day under Biden's cowardly appeasement policy. Saudis can easily raise their export in a few days to 10 million to replace Iranian oil. In the Persian Gulf war when Iraqi oil export was stopped they did the same. There will be no hike in fuel prices even now but right now we have a coward in the White House so it won't happen. Blocking Islamic Republic export will be the no-casualty alternative, Only those ships carrying Iranian oil or goods will be sank if they ignore the blockage which will be very unlikely. Iranian ships and planes will be sank and shot down too, easy only if they try to intervene but they are part of Islamic Republic military and paramilitary and no one will cry for them. You're assuming the Saudis will "play ball". I doubt they will. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You're assuming the Saudis will "play ball". I doubt they will. It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Saudis hate Islamic Republic too and wish it removed. They were under attack by Houthis in Yemen supported and armed by Islamic Republic. They Saudi regime as stinky it is but it is friendly to the West and more importantly don't wish to see a recession in the West as if so in the long term their oil revenue will be hit. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 42 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: It is not an assumption. It is a fact. Saudis hate Islamic Republic too and wish it removed. They were under attack by Houthis in Yemen supported and armed by Islamic Republic. They Saudi regime as stinky it is but it is friendly to the West and more importantly don't wish to see a recession in the West as if so in the long term their oil revenue will be hit. Considering the Saudis have already ignored Brandon's requests, I'm not so sure. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Considering the Saudis have already ignored Brandon's requests, I'm not so sure. I don't know who is Brandon or what his request was but Saudis hate Islamic regime more than the West (not more than Israel) and would do anything to remove it. Raising oil output is the least but they will likely provide intelligence support or even their soil to be used though not needed because oil blockage will be done in international waters of Persian Gulf and aircraft carriers in Persian Gulf will carry fighter jets. Quote
Nationalist Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 38 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I don't know who is Brandon or what his request was but Saudis hate Islamic regime more than the West (not more than Israel) and would do anything to remove it. Raising oil output is the least but they will likely provide intelligence support or even their soil to be used though not needed because oil blockage will be done in international waters of Persian Gulf and aircraft carriers in Persian Gulf will carry fighter jets. https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-mbs-rejected-biden-request-discuss-russia-oil-crisis-wsj-2022-3?op=1 Don't count your chickens before they hatch. The best thing the US can do right now, is dump Brandon. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 Very interesting interview with the future King of Iran most popular opposition figure to the hated Islamic Republic. Â 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 On 4/17/2024 at 4:15 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: Very interesting interview with the future King of Iran most popular opposition figure to the hated Islamic Republic. Â Getting this guy back into Iran would probably be a "good" thing. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Getting this guy back into Iran would probably be a "good" thing. I understand election interference is causing a lot concern these days. Any thoughts on why? Removing this guy sure proved to be a disaster.  Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 56 minutes ago, eyeball said: I understand election interference is causing a lot concern these days. Any thoughts on why? Removing this guy sure proved to be a disaster.  What's ur point? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 19 Report Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: What's ur point? Einstein's comment on your expectations of a different result. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 6 hours ago, eyeball said: Einstein's comment on your expectations of a different result. So you think the ayatolas are better? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So you think the ayatolas are better? Nope. And IÂ think Mossadeq was better than England and America too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Nope. And I think Mossadeq was better than England and America too. It's Mosaddegh and you're probably right. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 21 hours ago, eyeball said: I understand election interference is causing a lot concern these days. Any thoughts on why? Removing this guy sure proved to be a disaster.  This gentleman did not have the will or strength to fight off spread of communism (the Soviet stooge Tudej party was an ally of him against Shah) or delay these Islamic bastards to take over. Under him very likely the black evil Islamic forces would have taken over much sooner rather than 25 years later. The Shah did make a mistake of not sending these bastards to hell when he had the chance. Quote
eyeball Posted April 20 Report Posted April 20 42 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: This gentleman did not have the will or strength to fight off spread of communism. Neither did the west really which is why the world is now so full of with dictators. No courage no conviction = more dictators. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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