Canada’s refugee crisis is about to get worse, Gen. Hillier. some are living in tents. Another 90,000 people are expected now

[CdnFox]

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canada-ukrainian-refugee-crisis

Already some displaced families that came to Canada are living in tents. And another 90,000 people are expected in the next 60 days

It will likely only get worse: the feds anticipate 90,000 newcomers from Ukraine will land in Canada in the next two months.

“We have not had a national vision, a national strategy, and a national effort to make this (Ukrainian refugee response) happen. But we can do this. We’ve done it before,” Hillier says.

 

Dude - We're just about to enter YEAR THREE of the war, if Canada has NOT created a 'vision' to deal with these people by now they're not going to. Also - trudeau.  The only 'visions' he gets is of the pink outfit he's going to wear to the barbie movie.

[GroundskeeperWillie]

I don't understand why there seems to be an expectation that the West should take in and care for the world's poor or downtrodden.  Let people deal with their own problems.  The US and Canada are not the world's guardian angels.

[CdnFox]

Political points on the world stage that would normally translate into good will at various bargaining tables.  But Justin's screwed all that up anyway and it's not winning good will to have refugees camping in the streets.

[Army Guy]

The liberals don't have visions, unless they are on mushrooms...This is clearly a lack of leadership, either at the ministerial level or with the PM himself, Now i know the "you can't blame justin for everything crowd will start chirping any minute here"

But this is black and white, It seems or looks like that after Justin said they would take in x amount of Ukrainians thats where the plan stopped...this is not a one off this is almost every time they make policy or decisions, it is on the wrong side of everyone...

And liberal voters can't seem to see it, why is that...Have you become nose blind to the amount of shi$ being flung by your hero...

[herbie]

Wah wah Trudeau blah blah.
Why don't we just refuse all refugees until it's convenient for us blah blah dream on that there's some magical solution. Like some politician who'll be proud to turn the country into a World Pariah, build refugees camps on Ellesmere Island to hold them in while their cases are reviewed....

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Wah wah Trudeau blah blah.
Why don't we just refuse all refugees until it's convenient for us blah blah dream on that there's some magical solution. Like some politician who'll be proud to turn the country into a World Pariah, build refugees camps on Ellesmere Island to hold them in while their cases are reviewed....

 Wah wah stop picking on my buddy trudeau blah blah

Nothing intelligent to say so wahh ahahhahah waaah. Nothing can be done no solutions wah wah.

Sorry muffin. But 'don't let them in' is perfectly reasonable and it is in fact trudeau's decision.

[herbie]

No solution,eh? Good Tory, good boy!

It's all the other guy's fault but we can't offer a solution either.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

No solution,eh? Good Tory, good boy!

It's all the other guy's fault but we can't offer a solution either.

Sure there's a solution - don't let them in. But i guess lying about it is easier for you so go with that.

[herbie]

So post their sensible well thought out realistic climate plan that hasn't been made public for umpteen elections.

Try growing up and stop calling everyone who says something you don't like a liar. People might think they're conversing with an adult.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

So post their sensible well thought out realistic climate plan that hasn't been made public for umpteen elections.

Try growing up and stop calling everyone who says something you don't like a liar. People might think they're conversing with an adult.

Climate plans involving immigrants?  Are you thinking we should 'recycle'  them or something!?!?!

You've forgotten what we're taking about again haven't you. Sigh - i've told you to use little post it notes to remind yourself.

[GroundskeeperWillie]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

So post their sensible well thought out realistic climate plan that hasn't been made public for umpteen elections.

Try growing up and stop calling everyone who says something you don't like a liar. People might think they're conversing with an adult.

And I suppose we all think we are conversing with an adult when you talk like this:

"Wah wah Trudeau blah blah.
Why don't we just refuse all refugees until it's convenient for us blah blah dream on that there's some magical solution."

[herbie]

4 hours ago, GroundskeeperWillie said:

Why don't we just refuse all refugees until it's convenient for us

My quote not yours - because this seems to be what you all want.

Edited February 7, 2024 by herbie

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

My quote not yours - because this seems to be what you all want.

Still haven't answered me.

Yawn.  When you're dishonest and people call you a liar, you shouldn't act so surprised.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Still haven't answered me.

Yawn.  When you're dishonest and people call you a liar, you shouldn't act so surprised.

Meh...Libbies like @herbie have lost all sense of reason. They actually want to flood Canada with people from failed nations. That will increase the chance for Canada to become a shithole failed nation too.

[GroundskeeperWillie]

9 hours ago, herbie said:

My quote not yours - because this seems to be what you all want.

You need to stop making up lies about me and making it look like I said something I didn't.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Meh...Libbies like @herbie have lost all sense of reason. They actually want to flood Canada with people from failed nations. That will increase the chance for Canada to become a shithole failed nation too.

Which would be bad enough but then they squeeze farmers with carbon taxes and threaten fertilizer bans so nobody wants to invest in increased food production, THEN the flood the country with millions of new mouths to feed and claim it's the freakin' grocer's fault food prices have gone up!

"I pushed a man off a cliff and he fell, clearly it's harper's fault!"

- the left, probably.

 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Which would be bad enough but then they squeeze farmers with carbon taxes and threaten fertilizer bans so nobody wants to invest in increased food production, THEN the flood the country with millions of new mouths to feed and claim it's the freakin' grocer's fault food prices have gone up!

"I pushed a man off a cliff and he fell, clearly it's harper's fault!"

- the left, probably.

 

Justin Trudeau. Making Canada a shithole before your eyes.

[herbie]

@GroundskeeperWillie I specifically pointed out that it was MY QUOTE not yours.

[Gaétan]

Immigration Canada must not only consider slavery cases but also the repatriation of families left behind. 

[I am Groot]

On 2/6/2024 at 1:54 PM, herbie said:

No solution,eh? Good Tory, good boy!

You want a solution? Sure.

Withdraw from any international treaties that REQUIRE we allow all asylum claimants into the country and give them hearings.

Refuse to accept anyone who came here from a safe third country, be it the US, France or wherever.

Build detention facilities. Everyone who applies for asylum goes into them until their hearings and appeals are done. 

Toughen up the requirements for qualifying for asylum, and vastly speed up the process by hiring more immigration judges.

Place all fo the above in a law passed under the Notwithstanding clause.

Problem solved. The number of asylum claimants will plummet. Do you know we get twice as many as the  UK? Why do you imagine that is except that people think we're suckers.

[herbie]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Refuse to accept anyone who came here from a safe third country, be it the US, France or wherever.

already do

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

vastly speed up the process by hiring more immigration judges.

alreaady doing

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Withdraw from any international treaties that REQUIRE we allow all asylum claimants into the country and give them hearings.

 

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Place all fo the above in a law passed under the Notwithstanding clause.

Hmm. You DO come up with the most deplorable suggestions.

[I am Groot]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

already do

No, we absolutely do not. That's why we're getting growing numbers of applicants from Mexico. And accepting many of them! They even accepted one from the US the other day who said it was too dangerous to be trans there, until the courts overruled them. And many, if not most of those who fly in come through France or Spain because their own countries don't have direct flights with Canada. 

13 hours ago, herbie said:

alreaady doing

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Hmm. You DO come up with the most deplorable suggestions.

You mean suggestions that would actually WORK? Unlike you people on the fringes I don't have anything against using a clause deliberately placed in the constitution for when the courts got out of hand. 

[herbie]

5 hours ago, I am Groot said:

No, we absolutely do not. That's why we're getting growing numbers of applicants from Mexico. And accepting many of them! They even accepted one from the US the other day who said it was too dangerous to be trans there, until the courts overruled them. And many, if not most of those who fly in come through France or Spain because their own countries don't have direct flights with Canada. 

That person had a reason that was found valid. As for the rest of your fairy tale there are direct flights from Mexico to places like Prince George even. Some of those 'other Central American countries' are not listed as "safe" countries. Ever even heard of refugees from Costa Rica or Belize?

"Immigrants" do not just come here and then apply. You sound like the typical rightwing blockhead that cannot distinguish between immigrants and refugees (let's just call them all 'illegals' when immigrants are not). Your proposals would work but so would machine gunning them if they approached the border just only one step shy of n East German border guard solution.

Reneging on international treaties, closing the border and refusing refugees is a reprehensible idea.

[I am Groot]

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

That person had a reason that was found valid.

It would not have been had the system been sane.

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

As for the rest of your fairy tale there are direct flights from Mexico to places like Prince George even.

Yes, but Mexico is a safe country. Literally millions of Canadian tourists visit there, as do millions of other foreign tourists. 

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

"Immigrants" do not just come here and then apply. You sound like the typical rightwing blockhead that cannot distinguish between immigrants and refugees

But we're talking about refugee applicants, you silly twat. 

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

. Your proposals would work but so would machine gunning them if they approached the border just only one step shy of n East German border guard solution.

You are actually comparing rejecting asylum applicants at the border with machinegunning them? By the way, the East Germans shot people trying to escape, not enter their country. 

17 minutes ago, herbie said:

Reneging on international treaties, closing the border and refusing refugees is a reprehensible idea.

Lots of countries refuse refugees, even legitimate ones. I'm talking about refusing the illegitimate ones.

[herbie]

3 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I'm talking about refusing the illegitimate ones.

No you're not. Illegitimate ones are refused. You're claiming they're not.

Along with not being a Judge or having the qualifications to be on the deciding board that you know better than those that do. You just don't "like" it that your opinion is ignored, uninformed, wrong and hateful.