Happy Insurrection Day!!!!

[Rebound]

Remember, Remember, the 5th of November!  Every year in England, they celebrate the failure of Guy Fawke’s attempt to overthrow the British government. Children across the nation burn effigies of Guy Fawkes.

Here in the United States, we also celebrate the failure of Donald Trump’s failure to overthrow our great Constitutional Democracy!  Burn an effigy of Traitor Trump Today!

FAILED President!

FAILED Businessman!

FAILED Husband!

FAILED Insurrectionist Traitor!  

Burn the traitor  in effigy!    

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Remember, Remember, the 5th of November!  Every year in England, they celebrate the failure of Guy Fawke’s attempt to overthrow the British government. Children across the nation burn effigies of Guy Fawkes.

Here in the United States, we also celebrate the failure of Donald Trump’s failure to overthrow our great Constitutional Democracy!  Burn an effigy of Traitor Trump Today!

FAILED President!

FAILED Businessman!

FAILED Husband!

FAILED Insurrectionist Traitor!  

Burn the traitor  in effigy!    

YAWN!   Your mother and i told you to let us sleep in and we'd be up to open your presents later

 

[robosmith]

Happy Insurrection FAIL Day!

[Deluge]

Leave it to an Antifa supporter to celebrate the idea of insurrection. lol

You abortion loving terrorist sympathizers really do love death and destruction, don't ya?

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Happy Insurrection FAIL Day!

Even robodeceiver admits that the Jan 6th allegations were nothing more than left-wing fantasizing. lol

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Even robodeceiver admits that the Jan 6th allegations were nothing more than left-wing fantasizing. lol

^YOU'RE LYING, AS USUAL. Attempted insurrection is just as bad as one that succeeds. 

You're just DEFLECTING for Trump and your MAGA CULT. 🤮

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^YOU'RE LYING, AS USUAL. Attempted insurrection is just as bad as one that succeeds. 

 

LOL no, thats stupid.

 

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Dammit deluge, you made him cry again!   

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

LOL no, thats stupid.

 

Dammit deluge, you made him cry again!   

Obviously, you cannot punish people for participating in an insurrection which succeeds.  
 

So, OBVIOUSLY, the prohibition of insurrection pertains ONLY to failed or attempted insurrections. 

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

^YOU'RE LYING, AS USUAL. Attempted insurrection is just as bad as one that succeeds. 

You're just DEFLECTING for Trump and your MAGA CULT. 🤮

Once again, YOU LIE. 

There was no insurrection, nor was there any "attempted insurrection".

You're a mouthpiece for laft-wing radicalism, that's it. 

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Obviously, you cannot punish people for participating in an insurrection which succeeds. 

Precisely.  It encourages more insurrections. Successful insurrections are the worst of the two, except for the insurrectionists.

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So, OBVIOUSLY, the prohibition of insurrection pertains ONLY to failed or attempted insurrections. 

And?  I mean - nobody brought that up that i can see, so what's your point?

Thinking about it tho the prohibition would still apply. The rest of the world would be quite within it's rights for example not to recognize the new gov't claiming it had come to power illegitimately in violation of it's nation's laws, and in fact that has happened.

So it would still apply - it just wouldnt' be very easy to enforce at that point.

[herbie]

I like your Guy Fawkes comparison. But Guy was better dressed, more civilized and less deluded than the Jan 6 insurrectionists. No weay could Fawkes be consider the leader of a cult.
Nor was Parliament paralyzed by his toadies and simpering chickenshits too scared to call him out, they strung the traitor up and didn't piddle about for years and years.

[Caswell Thomas]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

Remember, Remember, the 5th of November!  Every year in England, they celebrate the failure of Guy Fawke’s attempt to overthrow the British government. Children across the nation burn effigies of Guy Fawkes.

Here in the United States, we also celebrate the failure of Donald Trump’s failure to overthrow our great Constitutional Democracy!  Burn an effigy of Traitor Trump Today!

FAILED President!

FAILED Businessman!

FAILED Husband!

FAILED Insurrectionist Traitor!  

Burn the traitor  in effigy!    

Don't forget convicted of Fraud and Financial Fraud. Burn the red hats! 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

I like your Guy Fawkes comparison. But Guy was better dressed, more civilized and less deluded than the Jan 6 insurrectionists. No weay could Fawkes be consider the leader of a cult.
Nor was Parliament paralyzed by his toadies and simpering chickenshits too scared to call him out, they strung the traitor up and didn't piddle about for years and years.

Also - he really actually was a threat to the gov't whereas the jan 6 people weren't in the slightness  

[Rebound]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Also - he really actually was a threat to the gov't whereas the jan 6 people weren't in the slightness  

If the result of the Jan 6 violence would be that Trump remained President, would that mean the U.S. government had been “overthrown”?

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

Once again, YOU LIE. 

There was no insurrection, nor was there any "attempted insurrection".

You're a mouthpiece for laft-wing radicalism, that's it. 

Your amateur legal eagle ^OPINION is contradicted by NUMEROUS LEGAL EXPERTS already posted here.

You really need to get over yourself cause no one is buying your unsubstantiated BULLSHIT.

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

If the result of the Jan 6 violence would be that Trump remained President, would that mean the U.S. government had been “overthrown”?

Of course it would, but stupid Canucks will never understand the "contingent election" that was planned to illegally overturn the will of the voters. Nor do they care about such crimes.

[Rebound]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Of course it would, but stupid Canucks will never understand the "contingent election" that was planned to illegally overturn the will of the voters. Nor do they care about such crimes.

Yah, these hosers have been hit in the head with too many hockey pucks.  

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Rebound said:

If the result of the Jan 6 violence would be that Trump remained President, would that mean the U.S. government had been “overthrown”?

No, the only way that result would have been possible is if it turned out that the demonstrators were correct and the vote WAS stolen and trump was duly elected.

Otherwise it was not possible for trump to remain president. There was no possible scenario where that happened. 

3 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Yah, these hosers have been hit in the head with too many hockey pucks.  

I think we've had more than enough demonstrations of your lack of smarts in the legal department to say that it's been more than a few hockey pucks for you  

[Deluge]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Your amateur legal eagle ^OPINION is contradicted by NUMEROUS LEGAL EXPERTS already posted here.

You really need to get over yourself cause no one is buying your unsubstantiated BULLSHIT.

See, what you and the rest of the communist dumbf*cks don't understand, is that Trump is STILL ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. You perverts are so caught up in your TDS that you can't see the forest for your fantasies. 

Donald Trump will be your President in 2024, and I hope you woketards will be ready. 

[robosmith]

On 1/7/2024 at 3:31 PM, Deluge said:

See, what you and the rest of the communist dumbf*cks don't understand, is that Trump is STILL ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. You perverts are so caught up in your TDS that you can't see the forest for your fantasies. 

Donald Trump will be your President in 2024, and I hope you woketards will be ready. 

You're LYING AGAIN. Of course I know that Trump is still out there producing a SHOW to fool and profit off the MAGA CULT.

How much have you donated to his legal fees? LMAO

[Rebound]

On 1/6/2024 at 9:46 PM, CdnFox said:

No, the only way that result would have been possible is if it turned out that the demonstrators were correct and the vote WAS stolen and trump was duly elected.

Otherwise it was not possible for trump to remain president. There was no possible scenario where that happened. 

I think we've had more than enough demonstrations of your lack of smarts in the legal department to say that it's been more than a few hockey pucks for you  

Your use of “not possible” makes no sense. The election was not stolen. Trump STILL keeps claiming he has evidence which he’s never shown anybody. When will you finally realize that Trump’s been deliberately lying about it all along?

[Deluge]

15 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're LYING AGAIN. Of course I know that Trump is still out there producing a SHOW to fool and profit off the MAGA CULT.

How much have you donated to his legal fees? LMAO

The REAL SHOW was creepy Joe Biden winning the presidency - it was more of a magic show, actually. That piece of shit and his band of cheaters fooled a lot of people. The good news is, there's a special place in hell for democrat election riggers and there are no sentencing limits there.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Your use of “not possible” makes no sense.

Its two words.  How can this be giving you that much trouble? It was not possible for those events to unfold in a way that lead to the overthrow of the gov't.  There's no way that could have been an outcome.

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The election was not stolen. Trump STILL keeps claiming he has evidence which he’s never shown anybody. When will you finally realize that Trump’s been deliberately lying about it all along?

I'll caveate this by saying i seriously doubt it was stolen - BUT fact is there's no way to be sure or even 'reasonable doubt' sure.  There is no evidence i'm aware of that proves any substantial or election changing levels of voter fraud or tampering (there's some of course, there's always some) but  - as i have demonstrated in other threads it is entirely possible and even plausable to have done so without detection. In fact we could go so far as  to say it would be surprising indeed if there wasn't some - the question then becomes how much and of course there's no way to know.

And this is the problem - there is no way to know if trump has or has not been lying or is or is not correct. Just like it was not possible to know if trump won the last election with russian collusion and after 3 years of the dems INSISTING he did and clinton insisting he was an 'illegitimate president'.  (Despite the fact she paid for the dossier that she knew was false that started this), and after mueller specifically saying they couldn't find evidence that supported that claim, you STILL get lots and lots of dems who SWEAR by the 'collusion' story.

So it's just as 'reasonable' for trump supporters to believe the election was stolen as it is for dem supporter to believe trump 'colluded' with the Russians. 1/3 of americans believe the election was messed with to one degree or another and about half believe in russian collusion (guess which half )

Sorry - the dems and their supporters have no grounds to stand on claiming that we shouldn't believe something that's not proven.

 

 

 

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Its two words.  How can this be giving you that much trouble? It was not possible for those events to unfold in a way that lead to the overthrow of the gov't.  There's no way that could have been an outcome.

I'll caveate this by saying i seriously doubt it was stolen - BUT fact is there's no way to be sure or even 'reasonable doubt' sure.  There is no evidence i'm aware of that proves any substantial or election changing levels of voter fraud or tampering (there's some of course, there's always some) but  - as i have demonstrated in other threads it is entirely possible and even plausable to have done so without detection. In fact we could go so far as  to say it would be surprising indeed if there wasn't some - the question then becomes how much and of course there's no way to know.

And this is the problem - there is no way to know if trump has or has not been lying or is or is not correct. Just like it was not possible to know if trump won the last election with russian collusion and after 3 years of the dems INSISTING he did and clinton insisting he was an 'illegitimate president'.  (Despite the fact she paid for the dossier that she knew was false that started this), and after mueller specifically saying they couldn't find evidence that supported that claim, you STILL get lots and lots of dems who SWEAR by the 'collusion' story.

So it's just as 'reasonable' for trump supporters to believe the election was stolen as it is for dem supporter to believe trump 'colluded' with the Russians. 1/3 of americans believe the election was messed with to one degree or another and about half believe in russian collusion (guess which half )

Sorry - the dems and their supporters have no grounds to stand on claiming that we shouldn't believe something that's not proven.

 

 

 

Well so diddly-do-what? 

You are saying something truly  nonsensical: That, since it is theoretically possible that a major, closely-watched, national election was somehow stolen, over 10,000’s of precincts without leaving a shred of evidence… then WHAT, exactly?  Huh? Then it’s ok to violently attack the United States Congress? 

In the world of FACTS:

1) No evidence exists that the election was stolen. And when I mean “no evidence,” I mean, NOT ONE SINGLE PRECINCT has been overturned. NOT ONE. Can you get that through your thick skull? A precinct is only 1,000 to 1,500 people. Not one precinct was overturned. Not one county. Nowhere, in all of the elections across the nation, was widespread fraud detected. NOWHERE. 

2)Trump admitted in advance of the election that he would not accept its results if he lost, he told the Proud Boys to “stand by,” and he stated before the election that he would not abide by the peaceful transfer of power, AND TRUMP DEFNITELY DID NOT ABIDE BY THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. THE TRANSFER OF PRESIDENTIAL POWER WAS ANYTHING BUT PEACEFUL.

3) It is FACT that Putin interfered with the 2016 election to Trump’s benefit, AND IT IS FACT THAT:

• Giuliani had advance knowledge of the release of hacked DNC records
• TRUMP asked Russia to release Hilary Clinton’s stolen emails, and
• TRUMP promised to reward Russia greatly if they released those emails, and
• Russia did, in fact, release those stolen emails shortly afterwards 

 

Edited January 10, 2024 by Rebound

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Well so diddly-do-what? 

Ummm- i was replying to your point and noting it wasn't possible.  If you think your point wasn't diddly-do-worth anything then there you go   

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You are saying something truly  nonsensical: That, since it is theoretically possible that a major, closely-watched, national election was somehow stolen, over 10,000’s of precincts without leaving a shred of evidence… then WHAT, exactly?  Huh? 

Oooooh kay -  i see the problem here.  You're an 1diot.  I forgot.

What i actually said was it couldn't be an insurrection unless it was possible that it could have somehow resulted in the overthrow of the gov't in at least some scenario. You obviously got confused.  Talking about two things can be difficult for some people.

You're now talking about the tangent argument I believe. And you seem to be changing what we're talking about on the fly quite a bit.

Can you point to anywhere where i claimed somehow this was ok? NO?  So you're just lying to cover your own stupidity. Fair enough.

To answer your obviously fake question, as far a "then what" goes, you arrest the protesters, lock them up for going too far, and that's pretty much the end of that.  There's no insurrection, there's no 'trump tried to overthrow democracy', there's none of that bullshit. 

Which is the same thing you do with the black lives matter protesters who burned cities and shops, and with their violent protesters, and with any protester who steps over the line from peaceful protest to riot.

And IN THE WORLD OF FACTS -  which you ignore when not convenient:

• No evidence exists that the election wasn't stolen. It has been shown it could have been.  And no evidence existed that trump colluded with the russians and you believed that for 3 years
• The fact that no precinct was overturned in no way shape or form says there was no voter fraud, just that not enough was found.  But not that there wasn't more that wasnt found. Simple fact kiddo.
• Telling someone to 'stand by' is literally the opposite of telling them to do something. Why do i even need to explain that.  And the fact trump believed someone was going to cheat tells us nothing of whether they did or not.  Simple fact.
• Whatever putin did  there was NO collusion.  No conspiracy, nothing nada zip zilch etc.  It is every bit as completely stupid and unsupported to claim that as it is to claim the election was stolen. Simple fact.

So there you go. Ignorant fools always try to justify their particular delusions and dismiss others and you're no different.

You claim that russia colluded or conspired with trump to win the 2016 election. The evidence is very clear otherwise but you want to try to twist things to fit, when as mueller reported there simply is no evidence to support that. He can't disprove it but he can't claim it happened. That's a fact- anything else is a lie.

THey claim the election was stolen and point to a bunch of incidents and facts that THEY believe shows it but investigators have said that the fraud that was found is no where near enough to have affected anything.

SO it's exactly the same.

So you have zero  - ZERO - room to criticize them for their beliefs which are not substantiated by the facts given YOUR beliefs which are also not substantiated by the fact.  There was no collusion. Trump probably lost 2020 fair and square. Given the facts in evidence those statements are most likely the truth.  And if it's ok to believe otherwise for one it's ok for the other as well.

Sorry kiddo - you've been sunk by your own hypocrisy.