There was no insurrection, you more onz.

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, Rebound said:

Trump to Proud Boys: “Stand Back, and Stand By”.

WTF are you talking about, loser?

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

WTF are you talking about, loser?

Those were Trump’s exact words to the Proud Boys, dum-dum. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Those were Trump’s exact words to the Proud Boys, dum-dum. 

He isn't the 'leader' of the proud boys, stupid. He didn't "tell them" to do anything. He just said the exact words that a debate moderator asked him to say.

If Chris Wallace asked you to say "KKK stand down", and you did it, would you really be 'giving them an order' or just 'saying meaningless words'?

FYI:

1) Trump correctly called out the Dems for not telling BLM and Antifa to stop destroying communities. They refused. The Dems and their media sycophants just kept inciting more and more violence, the Dems kept releasing violent criminals back onto the street when they could or raising money to bail out the ones that they couldn't.

2) Trump was hectored by a debate moderator (which is the exact opposite of what a moderator is supposed to do) to "do the same to white supremacist groups". Trump asked Wallace whom to address and what to say, and Trump did it on the spot. 

FYI in that moment, Trump wasn't actually addressing the Proud boys, he was setting a precedent to do the right thing. He just wanted the domestic violence to end. Did you notice that Wallace never asked Biden to do that to BLM and Antifa, and that Biden never did it? Did you notice that the dems just kept cheering all of the violence and destruction on? 

 

The problem here is that you're a credulous dolt, and you're far too easily led around by the nose.

That whole incident was set up to lend the impression that Trump is controlling those guys. That's it. You fell for it.

Given what we now know, do you think that the Dems should have been telling BLM and Antifa to stop rioting, or were they right to keep fanning the flames? 

[robosmith]

On 12/24/2023 at 12:50 PM, Perspektiv said:

It wasn't planned. It was spontaneous. 

Just because YOU don't know about all the planning that went into it, does NOT MEAN "it wasn't planned."

Plenty of Trump WH insiders have testified under oath about the PLANNING.

[Guest]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

How many tweets did Obama

Did he try to interfere with an election? Did he tell people to march down to a government building, to take back a country, but "peacefully"?

Not the same thing. He didn't orchestrate the riots. He did nothing about them, but is not responsible for causing them.

Massive difference.

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

last about 3 hrs

It could have lasted 30 minutes. It doesn't matter. It should have lasted zero minutes. How is that for math?

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

There were thousands of riots

None caused by him. Certainly none interfering with an election, whether you agree with its results or not. 

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Find 3 messages from 3 YEARS of rioting

Am glad you're not the lawyer defending Trump o_O

"Your client is accused of inciting riots"

Oh yeah? How many did Obama remain silent about? How many Americans died under his watch due to rioting?

"You do realize Trump is being found responsible for starting the riots on January 6?" "Proof of this is abundant"

It doesn't matter. Obama had so many riots. Thousands. Find me evidence of otherwise.

*Lawyer just gives up, trying to show that responsibility for starting a riot and being a head of state during a riot is grievously different regarding liability*

 

[Guest]

Another 4 years of Trump will make America's IQ look lukewarm to the rest of the world. 

[reason10]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Another 4 years of Trump will make America's IQ look lukewarm to the rest of the world. 

These last few years have shown the world our elections are no longer valid. That's a sign of a stupid country.

Four more years of LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP means no more shit in the Middle East, world peace, America's economy improving and Democrats upping their racist/terrorist shit.

America  right now is the Downs Syndrome nation of the world, thanks to Unelected Joe.

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Just because YOU don't know about all the planning that went into it, does NOT MEAN "it wasn't planned."

Plenty of Trump WH insiders have testified under oath about the PLANNING.

The planning was due to Nazi Pelosi and ANTIFA.

Trump tried to stop it by requesting the National Guard. But you NAZIS wanted that little party in the Capitol.

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, reason10 said:

are no longer valid

Were they valid when Trump won? 

30 minutes ago, reason10 said:

That's a sign of a stupid country.

The level of division. The political instability. The laughable level of crime, and homelessness. Not laughable as in funny, but in it being a joke.

You have become my measuring stick, as in if (my city) becomes like (insert dumpster fire US city), I will move to Europe or Asia with the wife.

When you become the measuring stick for a dumpster fire, you have hit lows that don't allow you to look down at any part of the dumpster fire you happen to be part of.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

The planning was due to Nazi Pelosi and ANTIFA.

ZERO EVIDENCE of ^this.

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

Trump tried to stop it by requesting the National Guard. But you NAZIS wanted that little party in the Capitol.

So you're claiming the National Guard IGNORED the orders of the "great" Trump? LMAO

[robosmith]

57 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Were they valid when Trump won? 

The level of division. The political instability. The laughable level of crime, and homelessness. Not laughable as in funny, but in it being a joke.

You have become my measuring stick, as in if (my city) becomes like (insert dumpster fire US city), I will move to Europe or Asia with the wife.

When you become the measuring stick for a dumpster fire, you have hit lows that don't allow you to look down at any part of the dumpster fire you happen to be part of.

Maybe you should learn how to read (or at least post) the evidence on which you base your judgements.

Crime rate is down here in most cities from what I've heard.

Chart: Violent Crime Rates Fall in the U.S. | Statista

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Violent crime in the U.S. The violent crime rate in the U.S. has returned to pre-pandemic levels in 2022, an annual release from the FBI has found. There were 380.7 violent crimes per 100,000 people reported to the FBI from law enforcement agencies last year, a 0.1 point decrease from 2019.

 

 

[Guest]

46 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Crime rate is down

But still high in many. Down a slight point, but retailers still leaving some cities due to it, isn't showcasing the decrease as an improvement to the overall quality of life.

The staggering homelessness rates in some cities, also point to this.

Oh and the increase of armed guards in retail, schools, to help with increasing theft, and school shootings, respectively.

Look at the rate of school shootings in the last 5 years, and make your own conclusions from it.

48 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Maybe you should learn

Maybe you should use common sense, to read through the statistics you point out to.

The US is in decline.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

but retailers still leaving some cities due to it

Your cite says the opposite of what you're claiming which is why you didn't actually quote it. Duh

Target blamed theft and violence for 9 store closures. Crime is higher at locations it kept open nearby

 

[Deluge]

On 12/23/2023 at 12:32 PM, Perspektiv said:

To me, the disturbing part is you have Trump playing innocent, and trying to convince people that he is. 

He isn't. Maybe could get away with not as guilty as charged, but that would be it.

The other side, are those showing desperation to get him silenced, knowing it only bolsters his base and adds constituents to his ballot.

Trump IS innocent, and it doesn't take blind faith to accept that. 

You see, comrade perspectiv, the Right doesn't take orders from the Left-wing hivemind, like you do; we actually think for ourselves. There was a time when democrats thought for themselves, but those days are looooong over. 

 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Deluge

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Trump IS innocent, and it doesn't take blind faith to accept that. 

You see, comrade perspectiv, the Right doesn't take orders from the Left-wing hivemind, like you do; we actually think for ourselves. There was a time when democrats thought for themselves, but those days are looooong over. 

What you call "think for ourselves" everyone else KNOWS IS DELUGINAL FANTASY. AKA what you WISH were true.

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What you call "think for ourselves" everyone else KNOWS IS DELUGINAL FANTASY. AKA what you WISH were true.

Roboparrot's brain is 99% left-wing propaganda.

The last 1% is an air pocket that causes a whistling noise whenever he moves. 

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Roboparrot's brain is 99% left-wing propaganda.

The last 1% is an air pocket that causes a whistling noise whenever he moves. 

All you got is ^gratuitous INSULTS. AKA, more DELUGINAL FANTASY that means NOTHING.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

You see, comrade perspectiv, the Right doesn't take orders from the Left-wing hivemind

I think for myself. Do I think he caused those riots? Absolutely.

Do I feel he should go to jail for it? Absolutely not.

There are far greater crimes that have been committed by US presidents. Only difference, is they got along with the establishment, so they never were punished for their actions.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist that the left is petrified of a Trump win. 

These charges may be based on fact, but the fact they are deliberately timed in such a fashion simply to make him lose or bring his legitimacy as a candidate in question, only has helped bolster his numbers.

He knows he doesn't need to debate, as he is getting free press on a constant basis. 

[Deluge]

6 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I think for myself. Do I think he caused those riots? Absolutely.

Do I feel he should go to jail for it? Absolutely not.

There are far greater crimes that have been committed by US presidents. Only difference, is they got along with the establishment, so they never were punished for their actions.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist that the left is petrified of a Trump win. 

These charges may be based on fact, but the fact they are deliberately timed in such a fashion simply to make him lose or bring his legitimacy as a candidate in question, only has helped bolster his numbers.

He knows he doesn't need to debate, as he is getting free press on a constant basis. 

Federal agitators caused the riots. Trump just inspired his supporters at their protest. 

Edited December 26, 2023 by Deluge

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

All you got is ^gratuitous INSULTS. AKA, more DELUGINAL FANTASY that means NOTHING.

RoboBeta is all things weak and corrupt. Drug addiction and homelessness is inspired by enablers like you. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Crime is higher at locations it kept open nearby

 

What type of crime? You don't think this would matter?

Look at the areas that were closed. Put two and two together. You're tryong to tell me its 5, because it identifies as a 5. 

I know you have braincells in that cavity you call a skull. 

Many were in violent neighborhoods, so the crimes were different (see organized crime), and threatened the safety of the staff. 

You need to learn to read between the lines.

"Yeah but more shoplifting happened at their location in the suburbs"

"Compton has less crime. Look 12% less. So the statistics speak for themselves, I calculated them myself"

Try factoring what isn't written for once. 

You're that teacher that see two kids fighting, and scold and shame both.

A smart teacher, would factor that one of the kids complained about being bullied multiple times, and ask both what happened, separately, before choosing to take a tone with either child.

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Did he try to interfere with an election? Did he tell people to march down to a government building, to take back a country, but "peacefully"?

1) Trump didn't do anything that the Dems didn't spend 4 years doing re: the witch hunt. 

2) When conservatives rioted for 3 hrs of ONE DAY, trump told them to stop 3 times.

3) Obama cheered on the destruction of neighbourhoods, the murders of policemen, the murders of civilians, thousands of assaults for 3 years. 

Quote

Not the same thing. He didn't orchestrate the riots. He did nothing about them, but is not responsible for causing them.

Obama was absolutely 100% responsible for the riots: his bogus Trayvon Martin story was the catalyst for the whole BLM movement. [paraphrasing] "I can't help but notice that he he looked like me. That could have been me, or my son." 

Obama's words mean that nothing Trayvon said or did would have made a difference - he was just gonna be shot for being black no matter what - because it was all about looks, right? If he was a violent white man he probably would have ben fine, but he was a cute, polite black kid so he was shot...  

Obama's comment leaves no room for: "A polite black man, minding his own business, would have gotten on with his business and no one would have ever heard of Zimmerman." According to Obama it was only colour that decided Trayvon's fate. He was railroaded to death by his melanin.

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It could have lasted 30 minutes. It doesn't matter. It should have lasted zero minutes. How is that for math?

Do you see the hypocrisy of saying that the GOP riot shouldn't have lasted 30 minutes, but 3 years of Dems cheering on murders, assaults and community destruction was ok? 

Quote

None caused by him. Certainly none interfering with an election, whether you agree with its results or not. 

They were absolutely caused by him. HIS FALSE NARRATIVE was the main reason for all the BLM support. His active & tacit support for riots never waned. When he was out of office his wife started inciting violence. 

The Obamas absolutely caused/supported/incited riots and murder. 

Do you have 3 examples of Obama speaking against the riots and murder of the last 3 years of his presidency?

No, you don't, so just admit it.

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Am glad you're not the lawyer defending Trump o_O

"Your client is accused of inciting riots"

Not credibly accused. Just 'accused'. No one has found any Trump tweets of live messages that asked for rioting, or especially attacking the capitol. They all talked about being peaceful and respectful.

Quote

Oh yeah? How many did Obama remain silent about? How many Americans died under his watch due to rioting?

Obama didn't "remain silent". He was an active supporter of it all.

Several cops were murdered under his watch in ambushes which were fuelled by Obama/BLM hate-mongering.

Obama even had the audacity to suggest that "centuries of Jim Crowe laws, (Dems) racism and slavery" were partially to blame for the ambush murder of 5 cops in Dallas. He couldn't just say that their murder was vile, the cops were heroes, and leave it at that. 

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"You do realize Trump is being found responsible for starting the riots on January 6?" "Proof of this is abundant"

Wrong. 

Trump never told anyone to riot. Trump had no less reason to believe that he was cheated than Hillary, and her witch hunt lasted 3.5 years. You think that Trump's election denial was supposed to end in 60 days or less? How so?

Quote

It doesn't matter. Obama had so many riots. Thousands. Find me evidence of otherwise.

What are you talking about? That makes no sense. 

Are you trying to act like there weren't thousands of riots under Obama? 

Quote

*Lawyer just gives up, trying to show that responsibility for starting a riot and being a head of state during a riot is grievously different regarding liability*

Obama was absolutely responsible for starting riots. There's no doubt about it. So was his wife.

Trump was just accused of starting riots by the biggest pack of liars that ever walked the earth. It's not the same thing at all. 

Obama didn't try to stop the riots, he fanned the flames. 

Trump did try to stop the rioting, he sent messages for the rioting to stop every hour for the brief duration of the event. 

 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

What type of crime? You don't think this would matter?

Look at the areas that were closed. Put two and two together. You're tryong to tell me its 5, because it identifies as a 5. 

I know you have braincells in that cavity you call a skull. 

Many were in violent neighborhoods, so the crimes were different (see organized crime), and threatened the safety of the staff. 

You need to learn to read between the lines.

"Yeah but more shoplifting happened at their location in the suburbs"

"Compton has less crime. Look 12% less. So the statistics speak for themselves, I calculated them myself"

Try factoring what isn't written for once. 

You're that teacher that see two kids fighting, and scold and shame both.

A smart teacher, would factor that one of the kids complained about being bullied multiple times, and ask both what happened, separately, before choosing to take a tone with either child.

IF you have a case, make it HERE. IF not, ?

Your cite contradicted your case, as shown in the TITLE: Locations which were closed had LESS CRIME.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

stop 3 times

It should be noted when and how be did. You're equating half hearted requests, with actually trying to stop the riots. You can't even present it having been done by video nationally, and immediately, proving my point.

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

He was railroaded to death by his melanin.

What crime did Trayvon commit, that made him deserve his fate?

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

but 3 years of Dems cheering on murders, assaults and community destruction was ok? 

Neither are okay. Both are shameful. One being timed during an election, is illegal. You can't even admit to Trump's actions being shameful, and your only justification for them, is because "they did it, too!".

And somehow you're trying to paint Trump as better or different.

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No, you don't, so just admit it.

Never denied it. You're the only person denying the guilt of someone who did what they did.

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump never told anyone to riot.

He didn't need to. He only needed to direct the angry crowd to any government building of his choosing, and watch with glee as they tried to stop the alleged "steal" of an election, in the most illegal way possible.

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What are you talking about? That makes no sense

Most of your posts make zero sense. You literally are regurgitating far right wing propaganda.

You sound like a far leftist, which is devoid of self awareness, reason and logic.

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump did try to stop the rioting, he sent messages for the rioting to stop every hour for the brief duration of the event. 

Stopping the riots or truly trying, would mean you will effortlessly present a video broadcast nationally and under emergency broadcasting, urging the crowd to disperse done in immediate fashion by Trump. Meaning time stamped as to being his first and immediate point of contact with rioters.

Failure to do so, proves my point, and speaks for itself.

You can gaslight all you want but any post of yours devoid with an immediate nationally broadcast video, negates your argument.

You can show Repolitics whether you are seriously debating or trolling with your choice of response.

Edited December 27, 2023 by Perspektiv

[Caswell Thomas]

On 12/25/2023 at 3:17 AM, reason10 said:

That is a lie and you are a liar.

The only coward and traitors are the last couple of DemoNAZI presidents.

Barak Saddam  Hussein Obama gave us the China virus which shut down the greatest (Trump) economy of all time.

Unelected Joe inherited a growing economy and JIMMY CARTERED IT into the shithole it is now.

Crawl back under your rock, Sgt. Shultz. You know nothing.

Its a matter of History. He was recorded by multiple media, even FOX. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

even FOX

You know you have failed when even Fox News turns on you.

That's embarrassing.