CdnFox Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 https://www.thestar.com/opinion/contributors/negative-ads-against-pierre-poilievre-a-high-stakes-gamble-for-the-liberals/article_9cf3e602-95dd-11ee-8138-6f7c8d8bbf19.amp.html It's been a slow burn, simmering out of the spotlight, but the Liberal Party's campaign against Pierre Poilievre is beginning to crystallize. The bite-sized videos disseminated via their official channels wield Poilievre’s own words like a double-edged sword. One called “The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” revisits his infamous apple orchard interview, juxtaposing his commentary with accusations of disseminating fake news, endorsing woke ideologies, and fighting a so-called radical left authoritarian agenda. Yet, these tactics may only temper Poilievre's ascending popularity and chip away at his tentative support base, rather than forge a path to victory for the Liberals. Merely associating Poilievre with Trumpian tactics is unlikely to be a silver bullet for a party seeking a fourth term. Should Trudeau decide to helm the ship once more, he will need to recapture the charisma and fervour that characterized his earlier political campaigns. The Liberal Party must offer Canadians a renewed vision, something beyond the status quo. Absent a fresh and compelling proposition, these meticulously crafted videos risk being relegated to the status of digital whispers, echoing into the void of the internet. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Posted December 11, 2023 So the liberals are rolling out attack but in fairness they have to do SOMETHING. The problem is - i don't think they're going to get the interest of very many people. I doubt they'll be any where near as good as what PP is putting out, and they're targeting the wrong message. "oh, he's anti-woke." "oh he didn't like the ukraine deal." " oh, he's like trump". These are the planned messages. But people don't give a crap about that stuff right now. They care about the economy, housing, inflation, interest rates and those are the things that justin CAN'T criticize PP on. And their donations are way down - and they have to keep a war chest for an election. So they're not going to be able to flood the airwaves with this stuff. I think if anything people will look at it as a weakness on Justin's part, i don't think he'll get the results doing it this way. 2 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Gaétan Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 You support Poilievre because you think he will help more Netanyahu than Trudeau to kill the children of Gaza Quote
Nationalist Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 41 minutes ago, Gaétan said: You support Poilievre because you think he will help more Netanyahu than Trudeau to kill the children of Gaza Ya gotta love desperation like this. Pixie-Dust is fcked...and he fcked himself be being a puppet for the globalists and woke twerps. That and...ya...spending us into a recession and allowing way too many migrants to wonder into out nation. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Posted December 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Gaétan said: You support Poilievre because you think he will help more Netanyahu than Trudeau to kill the children of Gaza I think the children of gaza are pretty much going to be as dead as they're going to get long before there's another election in canada. Hamas is busy seeing to that. If I REALLY hated the children of gaza - i'd be supporting hamas. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Guest Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaétan said: You support Poilievre I know tons of Poilievre supporters just like myself, who are sick and tired of having our voices silenced. If anything, covid has amplified this. Being pushed to the brink financially, shamed and divided by someone who hypocritically did the opposite, got old quick. The working class worker. The business owner. That person busting their ass to put food on their table. The single mom, working heavy hours, who had to move back in with her parents. I know neighbors that had to sell their homes, because they no longer could afford them, having to dramatically down size or move in with parents. We are talking people easily clearing 100k per year in joint salaries. We currently have a leader that would rather shame us, than lead us. I shouldn't feel shame for driving a car to work. I work my ass off, and pay taxes. My car is a fuel sipper. I shouldn't be ashamed to be a proud Canadian. Trudeau's tactics are closer to Trump's than Poilievre. An utter refusal to take responsibility for most of your failures, shaming and gaslighting. To further divide, is an insult to educated Canadians. He would be best off showing and proving how his plan is better, than to resort to insulting Poilievre. Quote
Gaétan Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said: I know tons of Poilievre supporters just like myself, who are sick and tired of having our voices silenced. If anything, covid has amplified this. Being pushed to the brink financially, shamed and divided by someone who hypocritically did the opposite, got old quick. The working class worker. The business owner. That person busting their ass to put food on their table. The single mom, working heavy hours, who had to move back in with her parents. I know neighbors that had to sell their homes, because they no longer could afford them, having to dramatically down size or move in with parents. We are talking people easily clearing 100k per year in joint salaries. We currently have a leader that would rather shame us, than lead us. I shouldn't feel shame for driving a car to work. I work my ass off, and pay taxes. My car is a fuel sipper. I shouldn't be ashamed to be a proud Canadian. Trudeau's tactics are closer to Trump's than Poilievre. An utter refusal to take responsibility for most of your failures, shaming and gaslighting. To further divide, is an insult to educated Canadians. He would be best off showing and proving how his plan is better, than to resort to insulting Poilievre. I am glad that you find out that Trudeau is an hypocrite but but you should be wary of Poilievre, the Conservatives have a worse record than the Liberals, you should consider something else like the NDP or the green party. The conservatives are the liberals in worse. 1 Quote
Legato Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, Gaétan said: Conservatives have a worse record than the Liberals, On what may I ask? Quote
Guest Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, Gaétan said: you should be wary of Poilievre I honestly would vote in Krusty the Clown. Anyone but the current clown in power. 45 minutes ago, Gaétan said: the Conservatives have a worse record than the Liberals I liked Harper. He was competent. I like competence. Singh is not it. 46 minutes ago, Gaétan said: The conservatives are the liberals in worse. Poilievre had me at "no more woke". We have been going on steady, since. ? Quote
Guest Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 Put it this way, Trudeau is the first that has me considering packing up, and leaving Canada. Am a proud Canadian, but could do so much more elsewhere. Quote
PIK Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 Well Trudeau can't run on his record, attacks is all he has left. The people are sick and tired of watching him destroy the country. Nothing can save the liberals. Not even a new leader. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2023 Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Gaétan said: I am glad that you find out that Trudeau is an hypocrite but but you should be wary of Poilievre, the Conservatives have a worse record than the Liberals, you should consider something else like the NDP or the green party. The conservatives are the liberals in worse. May: "Omar Khadr, you have more class than the whole f'ing cabinet!" Gaetan: ? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
CdnFox Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Gaétan said: I am glad that you find out that Trudeau is an hypocrite but but you should be wary of Poilievre, the Conservatives have a worse record than the Liberals, you should consider something else like the NDP or the green party. The conservatives are the liberals in worse. The conservative record on hypocrisy is vastly superior to the libs. What are you basing your claim on? this isn't another one of those things you 'heard on tv once' is it? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted December 11, 2023 Author Report Posted December 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, PIK said: Well Trudeau can't run on his record, attacks is all he has left. The people are sick and tired of watching him destroy the country. Nothing can save the liberals. Not even a new leader. Well there's some truth in that but i don't see this model of it being useful. I think he'd be better off trying a new series of lies, like "Wow the panedemic sure ruined eveything and put a wrench into our plans to make canada gay great again and of course the NDP ruined eveything with their demands - but with a new majority here's what we're going to deliver - within 2 years of a majority everyone will be allowed to buy a home regardless of income, and we'll set a cap on what farmers can charge for food!! Actually - the us dems did the first one and it was wildly popular. Lead to the housing bust but that's a future gov'ts problem. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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