Are our universities really this bad...

[Army Guy]

I read this article and had more questions than answers,  he does bring up some valid points, i may not agree with the entire article but I do find it disturbing if these accusations are true...

1.  Are universities here in Canada restricting freedom of speech, I've personally seen this on a variety of campuses like in Ottawa , and Toronto, I'm sure there are many other examples available from the posters here. 

2.  Is racism of any kind allowed on our universities, apparently in the 3 big ones in the states the answer would be yes..."depending on the circumstance" according to Harvard. I wonder what their state and federal laws say about racism...and what about Canada is racism allowed and why is it tolerated.... 

3.  Are these institutions reasonable for furthering the cancel culture, we see so prevalent today, we have seen many students protest speakers they do not agree with, is this becasue of the for the lack of a better word the brainwashing they get while in these places...and why are the teaching staff preaching this garbage "my opinion", or at the very least trying to stop it... I think these very places are now being defunded for allowing this type of activity on campuses... I really hope this carries on into Canadian campuses as well...

4.  I think this is another example of why hiring practices that put hiring with Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity first are failing, instead of hiring the man or women that is best suited for the job, i know we touched on the topic of why Departments in the federal government are broken, but i think these practices are one of the culprits in diluting the gene pool for leadership...If we are truly have not grown out of being racist,  etc that we can not be trusted to hire the best candidate for the job, then maybe it is time to call it quits...

I would have given you a source but some how  the link is restricted by the editor...

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It is a national post article written by Jordan Peterson: blame ediotic Marxism for the demented anisemitism oozing out of universities

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Army Guy

[Army Guy]

Sorry had to misspell a few words as the editor does not like when you spell them correctly...in some dimension the woke editor does not like the national post 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Army Guy

[eyeball]

15 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

....maybe it is time to call it quits...

Nah, we just need another big ugly war to reset things.

Never say die...kill maybe.... It's nature's way.

https://youtu.be/qvQa04JP73o?si=XlXav0nOETz7OJQM

Do you really see any other way out?

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by eyeball

[I am Groot]

The sequel

I have to admit it was amusing seeing these university chancellors proclaiming their love of free speech is so absolute they couldn't condemn someone for calling for genocide against Jews as necessarily being against their rules. This despite all of them having rigid speech codes in place to punish anyone who dared to offend any member of any identity group.

The problem is Jews are extremely low on the hierarchy. As far as the progressives are concerned Jews are too white and too economically successful, much like Asians. They don't count. And are certainly well below the hierarchy of importance than Muslims and brown people.

I don't know why no one asked them if a group marching around campus calling for the killing of all trans types or black people would be considered harassment. Pretty sure campus cops would be on your ass in minutes.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/adam-pankratz-academia-confirms-its-utter-moral-bankruptcy-to-congress

Edited December 9, 2023 by I am Groot

[suds]

At a U.S. House Congressional hearing Rep. Stephanic R-N.Y. asked a simple question .....  "Does calling specifically for the genocide of Jews violate (your university's) code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?"  According to Liz Magill of UPenn, you can call for genocide but it's not harassment unless genocide was actually put into practice. It appears to me it's a 'free speech' thing (aimed at Jews only) which overrides any codes of conduct regarding bullying and harassment. In Canada it's different. Section 318 of the Criminal Code plainly says that any person who advocates or promotes genocide is guilty of an indictable offense. Which is the way it should be.

Edited December 8, 2023 by suds

[suds]

Apparently the University of Pennsylvania lost over $100 million in funding shortly after Magill's comments.

[CdnFox]

The pendulum always swings. Just give it time.

[Queenmandy85]

19 hours ago, Army Guy said:

3.  Are these institutions reasonable for furthering the cancel culture, we see so prevalent today, we have seen many students protest speakers they do not agree with, is this becasue of the for the lack of a better word the brainwashing they get while in these places...and why are the teaching staff preaching this garbage "my opinion", or at the very least trying to stop it... I think these very places are now being defunded for allowing this type of activity on campuses... I really hope this carries on into Canadian campuses as well...

The campaigns against free speech on campus are student driven and the problem is exacerbated by weak administrations who bend to the students. Students generally hold their profs and the administration in contempt. It was this way in the late 1920's when my father was at UBC, again in the mid 1960's when my brother was at UBC, in the early 1970's when I was at U-Vic and currently at the U of S. Students have controlled university campuses since the great student riots at Cambridge, Paris and Padua in the late Middle Ages. The smartest people on earth are second year students. It is funny that grad students know less and less as they proceed through their Masters programs and Phd. Finally, when they get to be tenured professors, they understand they know next to nothing. There are occasional exceptions like Professor Jordon Peterson who knows everything.

Edited December 9, 2023 by Queenmandy85
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