Legato Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, robosmith said: Trump’s Fascistic Rhetoric Only Emphasizes the Stakes in 2024 "Vermin" is sine qua non of fascists Hitler and Mussolini So vermin is a necessary condition without which something is not possible for fascists? That's like saying the pinwheel of logjams is necessary to grow dandelions in a dilution of hydrochloric alkaline 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: sine qua non It's pretty clear you have no idea what that means. I assume you think it means a 'signature' or sign of or something? it doesn't - it means an essential condition. You seem to be trying to suggest that the use of the term means someone is a nazi. So... NOBODY ELSE calls people 'vermin" right? Yeash. It's bad enough that you're being stupid, do you HAVE to be stupid bilingually? edit: I see @Legato beat me to it Edited November 22, 2023 by CdnFox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 On 11/22/2023 at 1:41 PM, Legato said: So vermin is a necessary condition without which something is not possible for fascists? That's like saying the pinwheel of logjams is necessary to grow dandelions in a dilution of hydrochloric alkaline No, the status of fascist is a necessary condition to use "vermin" to describe citizens. Sorry you were CONFUSED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 Ha yes Confucius...."Never give a sword to man who can't dance" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 The man splits people into classes, always pins blame on some of them appointed blood relatives to positions of power, threatens and promises vengeance upon his opponents, worships some imaginary vision of the past and promotes nationalism to an isolationist supreme. Continues to push past lies, invents new ones in every speech, threatens to force the justice system to bend to his will yet remains above it. Insists the very structure of the USA is broken and he is the only one who can fix it. If that isn't the textbook definition of a fascist, the textbooks are all wrong. Fortunately, as his babbling incoherent speeches have always pointed out, he is bat shit insane and have become lately overt proof of at the least early onset dementia that is progressing rapidly with his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, herbie said: The man splits people into classes, always pins blame on some of them appointed blood relatives to positions of power, threatens and promises vengeance upon his opponents, worships some imaginary vision of the past and promotes nationalism to an isolationist supreme. Continues to push past lies, invents new ones in every speech, threatens to force the justice system to bend to his will yet remains above it. Insists the very structure of the USA is broken and he is the only one who can fix it. If that isn't the textbook definition of a fascist, the textbooks are all wrong. Fortunately, as his babbling incoherent speeches have always pointed out, he is bat shit insane and have become lately overt proof of at the least early onset dementia that is progressing rapidly with his age. Thank you Herbie, I must give you credit there, accurate and very well thought out That post is an excellent description of Joe Biden. Well done!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: No, the status of fascist is a necessary condition to use "vermin" to describe citizens. Sorry you were CONFUSED. ROFLMAO - man, you don't even know why people are laughing at you half the time, do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herbie Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Legato said: Thank you Herbie, I must give you credit there, accurate and very well thought out That post is an excellent description of Joe Biden. Well done!!!!! Takes a pretty f*cked in the head Trump-pet to imagine Biden's done any one of that list of things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, herbie said: Takes a pretty f*cked in the head Trump-pet to imagine Biden's done any one of that list of things. All for one and one for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 29, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Quote “Take it seriously… This is what authoritarians do. This is what fascists do.” NBC News presidential historian and author Michael Beschloss on Monday urged Americans to take Donald Trump at face value over his comments and promises about deploying the military within the country to advance his own personal agenda, if he wins back the White House in 2024. “Take it seriously,” Beschloss told MSNBC’s Katie Phang. Beschloss recalled how some people after Trump’s 2016 election victory said his campaign comments about violence and presidential powers were “just bluster” and that he was really “a moderate who loves to make deals.” “Remember that? That was all totally wrong. Take him at his word,” Beschloss cautioned. Trump “has told us he’s going to use the American military” to “suppress his domestic opponents,” the writer noted. “This is what authoritarians do. This is what fascists do.” Beschloss also expressed surprise at Republican 2024 front-runner Trump and his allies being so open with their intentions and suggested it was “probably not in his interest because if he wants to get elected next year, it probably makes more sense to him to pretend to be someone who’s more moderated.” — Presidential historian Michael Beschloss on Donald Trump’s campaign rhetoric. Edited November 29, 2023 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, robosmith said: — Presidential historian Michael Beschloss on Donald Trump’s campaign rhetoric. NBC news you mean. THe people who got successfully sued for lying about catholic school students for ratings If the dems hadn't spent the last 7 years lying about the guy, people would be more inclined to believe any of this bull crap now. But they did, so they don't. Honestly i think after watching the dems weaponize the fbi and now the courts to take on their political opponents people are more afraid of what the dems will do than what trump will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 4:01 PM, robosmith said: No, the status of fascist is a necessary condition to use "vermin" to describe citizens. Sorry you were CONFUSED. Hmm... What does calling half the population "A basket of deplorables" make a person then? Or saying half the nation are ",,, an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic."? Gee...that pretty darn nasty. Fascist even. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted November 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Hmm... What does calling half the population "A basket of deplorables" make a person then? ^This premise means you weren't paying attention to what was said. Try again. Particularly to the given definition of "deplorables." LMAO It seems you fit. 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Or saying half the nation are ",,, an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic."? Gee...that pretty darn nasty. Fascist even. ^Swing and a miss, AGAIN. Full quote: Quote Donald Trump and the MAGA Republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. Now, I want to be very clear — (applause) — very clear up front: Not every Republican, not even the majority of Republicans, are MAGA Republicans. Not every Republican embraces their extreme ideology. MAGA CULT is not NEAR "half the nation." Duh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 1 hour ago, robosmith said: ^This premise means you weren't paying attention to what was said. Try again. Particularly to the given definition of "deplorables." LMAO It seems you fit. ^Swing and a miss, AGAIN. Full quote: MAGA CULT is not NEAR "half the nation." Duh Sorry - they don't get to break it down like that. Darn near half the nation voted for trump in 2016. And that's who they insulted. But it's typical that you have to lie to yourself to try to live with your shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted December 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 What Trump’s Second Term Could Look Like Quote For years, Donald Trump’s many opponents were often accused of alarmism, and early on, this seemed a justified criticism: Before he was even sworn in, words such as fascist and autocrat were in the air. Although I was a charter member of the Never Trump movement, I worried that catastrophizing Trump and depicting him as an invincible Demogorgon would induce helplessness and resignation among American citizens. When Trump was defeated in 2020, however, many voters took that as a sign that the guardrails had held and that America was out of danger. Even January 6, 2021, has receded from the public’s consciousness, and a fair number of Americans seem unaware of just how close we came to the violent overthrow of our electoral institutions.Trump’s autocratic instincts have now fully mutated into an embrace of fascism. And yet, America shrugs: Millions of voters think of the upcoming election as just another contest between a conservative Republican and a liberal Democrat, instead of an existential contest between democracy and authoritarianism. The early hysteria about Trump has ended up submerging deep concerns about democracy in a haze of equivocation and complacency. Even people who have no particular love for Trump typically argue that life under his administration was mostly normal, and that all of the fears about how Trump could collapse American democracy were just overheated rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 11/13/2023 at 1:52 PM, robosmith said: Donald Trump is a FASCIST Robert "Fourth" Reich is the last person to be pointing fingers. I'll bet that piece of shit actually worships Hitler in secret. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted December 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: Robert "Fourth" Reich is the last person to be pointing fingers. I'll bet that piece of shit actually worships Hitler in secret. I'll take that bet any day. Cause we know your record of making claims without evidence and being wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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