NY Times Poll: Trump Leads Biden in Five of Six Battleground States

[Legato]

Watched some Greg Gutfeld last night.

Part of his monologue was classic. Can't remember the exact words, was something like this...

The left has been obsessed with Trump for the last eight years. It will never cease.

What would you sooner have Trump obsession with Bidenomics or Trump obsession with Trump economics, like Biden it's a no brainer

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, Legato said:

Watched some Greg Gutfeld last night.

Part of his monologue was classic. Can't remember the exact words, was something like this...

The left has been obsessed with Trump for the last eight years. It will never cease.

What would you sooner have Trump obsession with Bidenomics or Trump obsession with Trump economics, like Biden it's a no brainer

And it was George Bush they obsessed over prior to Donald Trump.

These parasites simply cannot function without being able to latch onto Republican presidents. 

[Kiraly]

Pretty impressive numbers when Kennedy is included:

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

And it was George Bush they obsessed over prior to Donald Trump.

These parasites simply cannot function without being able to latch onto Republican presidents. 

I don't know how or when it happened exactly - but these days the left are all about who they hate, and the right is all about who they like

The left spends all of it's time HATING trump.  The right spends it's time LIKING trump.

The left is driven by hatred and they just can't understand anything BUT hatred, so it's always  a question of "who are we supposed to hate today?"

[impartialobserver]

27 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Same can be said for every sack of sh*t talking head on MSNBC, CNN, NPR, and so on...  

We are talking about politicians who can possibly impact your life. Talking heads have no direct,tangible impact on your existence. 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Deluge said:

And it was George Bush they obsessed over prior to Donald Trump.

These parasites simply cannot function without being able to latch onto Republican presidents. 

TBH, the criticism of Dubya was fair imo. 

I think Dubya was the second-least capable president since Carter, aside from Biden.

Not the second-worst mind you, IMO Obama was the second-worst. He was very capable of getting things done, those things just weren't done for the good of the country. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

We are talking about politicians who can possibly impact your life. Talking heads have no direct,tangible impact on your existence. 

Wellllllll.... while i can sort of see what you mean i think that you are grossly grossly underestimating the impact of "propaganda" on society and your daily life to be entirely honest.

[impartialobserver]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Indeed most politicians are narcissistic. So...is Trump more narcissistic? Or is he just a less polished narcissist?

Yes, you have an irrational confidence in yourself in order to run a campaign and win. You start doubting your ability to single handedly rescue the world from themselves and the public will tear you to shreds. I would say that Trump is not more or less narcissistic.. he simply projects it in such a way that hits the radar harder. You either love him or hate him.. either way, he gets attention which is what he wants. 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, CdnFox said:

Wellllllll.... while i can sort of see what you mean i think that you are grossly grossly underestimating the impact of "propaganda" on society and your daily life to be entirely honest.

Propaganda does have an impact.. however, I am talking about the direct, tangible value of a single contributor to this propaganda. By themselves.. they do not impact my existence in a tangible way. The commute was the same today as it has been for 8+ years, paycheck did not go up or down, kids acted the same way as they always do.... 

[Deluge]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH, the criticism of Dubya was fair imo. 

I think Dubya was the second-least capable president since Carter, aside from Biden.

Not the second-worst mind you, IMO Obama was the second-worst. He was very capable of getting things done, those things just weren't done for the good of the country. 

That's a fair take, but it still supports the idea of libs obsessing over Republican presidents. 

[WestCanMan]

18 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Propaganda does have an impact.. however, I am talking about the direct, tangible value of a single contributor to this propaganda. By themselves.. they do not impact my existence in a tangible way. The commute was the same today as it has been for 8+ years, paycheck did not go up or down, kids acted the same way as they always do.... 

That propaganda is huge.

When someone from an American media co., like Joy Reid for example, unleashes her hate screed about America, it lends credibility to terrorists, religious bigots, racists and radicals all over the world. 

We've already seen two female terrorists in the last week: a woman was killed in Paris trying to board a train after shouting her praise to her islamic god, and a woman in the US crashed her car into an anti-Semitic building (lost tribes of Israel) thinking that was a Jewish building. There were several other terrorist attacks of course, but two female terrorists in a week is a lot. 

[impartialobserver]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

That propaganda is huge.

When someone from an American media co., like Joy Reid for example, unleashes her hate screed about America, it lends credibility to terrorists, religious bigots, racists and radicals all over the world. 

We've already seen two female terrorists in the last week: a woman was killed in Paris trying to board a train after shouting her praise to her islamic god, and a woman in the US crashed her car into an anti-Semitic building (lost tribes of Israel) thinking that was a Jewish building. There were several other terrorist attacks of course, but two female terrorists in a week is a lot. 

What I find immensely interesting and sad about you is this assumption that everyone cares about this stuff as much as you do. Most people.. believe it or not, are not as obsessed about this as you. We have lives... give it a try for once. When I I get home.. I do not turn on the TV at all. So guess what.. that rules out your obsession with CNN. Next, when we are on our phones after dinner, kids, dishes, etc.... we go to xyz game or Facebook. Before you blast away.. I have no non-local news in my feed. So tell me how Sean Hannity's tirades affect my life directly and tangibly? 

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

What I find immensely interesting and sad about you is this assumption that everyone cares about this stuff as much as you do. Most people.. believe it or not, are not as obsessed about this as you. We have lives... give it a try for once. When I I get home.. I do not turn on the TV at all. So guess what.. that rules out your obsession with CNN. Next, when we are on our phones after dinner, kids, dishes, etc.... we go to xyz game or Facebook. Before you blast away..

Regardless of whether or not you watch your TV, terrorist attacks occur, as do marches in support of terrorist orgs, get it? Keeping your head in the sand isn't a great real-world strategy, but whatever blows your hair back I guess...

In any event, propaganda is the main/only reason for terrorist attacks. Not many people just hate others enough to commit suicide attacks unless someone feeds their hatred to great extent, right? 

That's where propaganda comes in. And the fact that you didn't see the propaganda doesn't mean that no one else did. FYI your ignorance doesn't translate to "America's bliss". You're exactly like the little kid who thinks that they're hiding when they've just covered their own eyes...

MSNBC has been grooming people for hate crimes for years now.  

Step 1) college children get titillated by angry campus criers or TikTok, then 2) they get their conf. bias fix right on a national American 'news' network, then 3) they're off to the races. And you're none the wiser. Foreign propagandists can use the Joy Reid screed to verify everything that they're saying. "Americans are vile, racist, and religiously bigoted."

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I have no non-local news in my feed. So tell me how Sean Hannity's tirades affect my life directly and tangibly? 

If you're so unconcerned with national/int'l events, why are you posting here? 

By your own admission you're not up to speed at all, yet here you are opining... WTF is that all about? You're basically saying "I know the least of anyone here, prepare to read my screed..."

[impartialobserver]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Regardless of whether or not you watch your TV, terrorist attacks occur, as do marches in support of terrorist orgs, get it? Keeping your head in the sand isn't a great real-world strategy, but whatever blows your hair back I guess...

In any event, propaganda is the main/only reason for terrorist attacks. Not many people just hate others enough to commit suicide attacks unless someone feeds their hatred to great extent, right? 

That's where propaganda comes in. And the fact that you didn't see the propaganda doesn't mean that no one else did. FYI your ignorance doesn't translate to "America's bliss". You're exactly like the little kid who thinks that they're hiding when they've just covered their own eyes...

MSNBC has been grooming people for hate crimes for years now.  

Step 1) college children get titillated by angry campus criers or TikTok, then 2) they get their conf. bias fix right on a national American 'news' network, then 3) they're off to the races. And you're none the wiser. Foreign propagandists can use the Joy Reid screed to verify everything that they're saying. "Americans are vile, racist, and religiously bigoted."

If you're so unconcerned with national/int'l events, why are you posting here? 

By your own admission you're not up to speed at all, yet here you are opining... WTF is that all about? You're basically saying "I know the least of anyone here, prepare to read my screed..."

You would be amazed to see how few people are as obsessed as you are. Most go about their lives and then the news is secondary to that. I know.. when xyz liberal person says whatever.. you stay awake at night foaming at the mouth. You are the exception not the rule. 

Here is where we differ... for a given topic,  when I read about it the first question I ask is "what is happening". Not what should be happening. Therefore, no need to justify or condemn actions. Your zealousness keeps you from doing any of the above. For example... we were asked why the jobs number keeps increasing but the unemployment rate is creeping upwards slowly. You do not have the constitution to answer that honestly and objectively. You would not use the data to back up your explanation.. you would immediately launch into some partisan rhetoric. 

Edited November 7, 2023 by impartialobserver

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

We are talking about politicians who can possibly impact your life. Talking heads have no direct,tangible impact on your existence. 

No, you were saying that Trump believes Alex jones, therefore, he is not worthy of your vote. 

Are you saying that your choices for president don't believe CNN, MSNBC and NPR? 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Deluge

[Guest]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I agree that Trump's communication style can be crass and off-putting

It makes him easy picking in politics. You're just giving easy layups for your opponents to attack you with.

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Horrible leader?

Leadership is about serving others.

Meaning, it is Trump's responsibility to serve even those that he hates, to the best of his ability.

Its in the country's best interest, that his ego doesn't get in the way of any of this.

When you can't let go of minor slights, it just shows the ego isn't up to par.

[impartialobserver]

10 minutes ago, Deluge said:

No, you were saying that Trump believes Alex jones, therefore, he is not worthy of your vote. 

Are you saying that your choices for president don't believe CNN, MSNBC and NPR? 

I guess the distinction is that Alex jones' entire schtick is conspiracy theories. Yes, the 3 that you mentioned do peddle some of it but it is not the reason for their existence. I have no patience or respect for those who believe in conspiracy theories. 

Before you blast away... I never (repeat, Never) believed in the Russian collusion story. Too many holes in the story.

Edited November 7, 2023 by impartialobserver

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

You would be amazed to see how few people are as obsessed as you are. Most go about their lives and then the news is secondary to that. I know.. when xyz liberal person says whatever.. you stay awake at night foaming at the mouth. You are the exception not the rule. 

Dude, wtf are you doing on a political forum if you don't care? Just go to back to TikTok or OnlyFans or whatever...

Why is it that the comments of a mere poster on Repolitics are of the utmost concern to you, but the fact that propagandists at colleges and TikTok and right on American national news are conducting hate speeches against your country has no meaning for you? 

Do my comments really outweigh all of theirs? 

Thanks for acknowledging that, but TBH you should still be availing yourself of the info that's out there in the rest of the world. You'll be completely in the dark if I stop posting here, or even worse, my account gets hacked and then you're completely at the mercy of disinformants. 

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when xyz liberal person says whatever.. you stay awake at night foaming at the mouth. You are the exception not the rule. 

1) FYI, words matter. Especially when they're being said on national TV broadcasts. I'm surprised to find out that I have to explain that to someone who can read and write. Some parts of your brain are clearly more developed than others...

2) I don't stay awake at night, 7-8 hrs minimum, or you're unhealthy in a lot of ways.

3) I'm quite far from being "the exception". If you don't care you're doing an awful job of proving it. People who are apathetic aren't here, just an FYI. 

4) I take exception to lies, real crimes, and hate speech. Leftists take exception to the truth and common sense, and nothing excites them more than fake narratives and fake crimes. I'm quite fine where I am, thanks. You take exception to people paying attention to politics, yet here you are talking about politics, when you live in a free country and the internet is so vast. My advice to you is - find something you like to do, instead of talking about this subject, which you theoretically hate...

11 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

It makes him easy picking in politics. You're just giving easy layups for your opponents to attack you with.

Opponents don't actually have anything to attack him with. Hence the constant stream of show trials, false accusations, etc. 

[impartialobserver]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Dude, wtf are you doing on a political forum if you don't care? Just go to back to TikTok or OnlyFans or whatever...

Why is it that the comments of a mere poster on Repolitics are of the utmost concern to you, but the fact that propagandists at colleges and TikTok and right on American national news are conducting hate speeches against your country has no meaning for you? 

Do my comments really outweigh all of theirs? 

Thanks for acknowledging that, but TBH you should still be availing yourself of the info that's out there in the rest of the world. You'll be completely in the dark if I stop posting here, or even worse, my account gets hacked and then you're completely at the mercy of disinformants. 

1) FYI, words matter. Especially when they're being said on national TV broadcasts. I'm surprised to find out that I have to explain that to someone who can read and write. Some parts of your brain are clearly more developed than others...

2) I don't stay awake at night, 7-8 hrs minimum, or you're unhealthy in a lot of ways.

3) I'm quite far from being "the exception". If you don't care you're doing an awful job of proving it. People who are apathetic aren't here, just an FYI. 

4) I take exception to lies, real crimes, and hate speech. Leftists take exception to the truth and common sense, and nothing excites them more than fake narratives and fake crimes. I'm quite fine where I am, thanks. You take exception to people paying attention to politics, yet here you are talking about politics, when you live in a free country and the internet is so vast. My advice to you is - find something you like to do, instead of talking about this subject, which you theoretically hate...

Opponents don't actually have anything to attack him with. Hence the constant stream of show trials, false accusations, etc. 

I do hate politics... no real mystery here. Politicians.. who I work with directly are universally scum bags. The R or D next to the name is just a decoration. Work with them behind the scenes and you find it does not matter. Second, worse than the id10t politicians are the supporters. They latch on to a narrative (this would be you) and fight tooth and nail to defend it. Their passion and zealousness gets in the way of them saying anything meaningful or substantial. 

Do you want to know where I get my info.. hint, its not you. Oh... and its not CNN. When I read about a topic... my mind (unlike you) is trying to understand the topic not justify one side or the other. 

You are the exception... most do not get this worked up over stuff like this. Day after day, hour after hour.. here you are blasting away. A more rational person would find other more beneficial things to do than to say the same things to the same people and expect a different result. 

[WestCanMan]

Just now, impartialobserver said:

I do hate politics... no real mystery here. Politicians.. who I work with directly are universally scum bags. The R or D next to the name is just a decoration. Work with them behind the scenes and you find it does not matter. Second, worse than the id10t politicians are the supporters. They latch on to a narrative (this would be you) and fight tooth and nail to defend it. Their passion and zealousness gets in the way of them saying anything meaningful or substantial. 

Do you want to know where I get my info.. hint, its not you. Oh... and its not CNN. When I read about a topic... my mind (unlike you) is trying to understand the topic not justify one side or the other. 

You are the exception... most do not get this worked up over stuff like this. Day after day, hour after hour.. here you are blasting away. A more rational person would find other more beneficial things to do than to say the same things to the same people and expect a different result. 

That all sounds pretty hoidy toidy, but it's not, because it's all BS.

You started off saying that you don't watch this stuff because you don't care, now you've completely changed your tack to "I pay attention but you're a partisan poo-poo head."

If you think I'm partisan, the way you go about addressing that point is find some posts I made that are partisan to the point of being misleading or biased. 

Why don't you run off and do that instead of running your mouth with baseless accusations? 

I fell like we might be making progress. YAY!

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

That all sounds pretty hoidy toidy, but it's not, because it's all BS.

You started off saying that you don't watch this stuff because you don't care, now you've completely changed your tack to "I pay attention but you're a partisan poo-poo head."

If you think I'm partisan, the way you go about addressing that point is find some posts I made that are partisan to the point of being misleading or biased. 

Why don't you run off and do that instead of running your mouth with baseless accusations? 

I fell like we might be making progress. YAY!

Partially right.. I do not care about every topic. Unlike you, I do not pretend to care about them all. So when I do choose to read about a topic.. I actually try to understand it and wade through the BS. You, on the other hand, cherry pick for something that backs up your narrative. Your diehard partisan ways are evident in your posts... you are always defending one side and condemning the other. 

I have dealt with your types too many times. 

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Partially right.. I do not care about every topic. Unlike you, I do not pretend to care about them all. So when I do choose to read about a topic.. I actually try to understand it and wade through the BS. You, on the other hand, cherry pick for something that backs up your narrative. Your diehard partisan ways are evident in your posts... you are always defending one side and condemning the other. 

I have dealt with your types too many times. 

Ok, so you've gone from "No interest" to "OK I pay attention, but you're a poo-poohead" to "When I do have interest, I become an objective expert on the topic" ?

Whatever, dude. Like I said earlier, if you think that you something specific that I said to pick apart, I'd love it if you had the balls to go out on a limb and challenge me on it directly.

I'm pretty sure that you just wanna leave it at "Me ekspert, you siwwy. Bew hooooo."

Am I right? Yeah, we both know it. Thanks for comin' out again, for whatever reason...

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

I guess the distinction is that Alex jones' entire schtick is conspiracy theories. Yes, the 3 that you mentioned do peddle some of it but it is not the reason for their existence. I have no patience or respect for those who believe in conspiracy theories. 

Before you blast away... I never (repeat, Never) believed in the Russian collusion story. Too many holes in the story.

Alex Jones peddles his products too hard. That's my only beef with him.

As for his work, I support it; he's gotten things wrong from time to time, but he's a hell of a lot more genuine than the leftists. 

Good call on the Russian collusion nonsense. 

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Yes, you have an irrational confidence in yourself in order to run a campaign and win. You start doubting your ability to single handedly rescue the world from themselves and the public will tear you to shreds. I would say that Trump is not more or less narcissistic.. he simply projects it in such a way that hits the radar harder. You either love him or hate him.. either way, he gets attention which is what he wants. 

IMO, Trump is very extreme, even among other people who might be casually labeled narcissists. All politicians have an ego, but they aren't all devoid of empathy. They do think about other people and how their words and actions affect others, it's why they have a filter when they speak. Trump just doesn't. If a person isn't named Trump, he really doesn't give a shit about them--and even some of those are iffy. 

The man has no redeeming qualities. No one would want to be raised by a man like Trump. No one would want their son to be like him, or their daughter to marry a man like him. But somehow people think it's funny or cool when the President of the United States exhibits such behavior? Bizarre.

 

Edited November 7, 2023 by Hodad

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

Same can be said for every sack of sh*t talking head on MSNBC, CNN, NPR, and so on...  

And yet ONLY FOS LIES has been found liable for LYING to the penalty tune of $800M with more to come....

IOW, you're DELUGINAL.