It tooks 6 months for the Federal Government to replace the ethics commissioner

[myata]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

The entire ethics commissioner office is there just to appease a few whiners and nothing ever comes out of there to please anyone.

Yes. This is obvious and has been from about day one. Can a functional democracy exist without responsibility, accountability and transparency of the governments? I think it's obvious to an average six year old who would care to think for a minute.

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, myata said:

Yes. This is obvious and has been from about day one. Can a functional democracy exist without responsibility, accountability and transparency of the governments? I think it's obvious to an average six year old who would care to think for a minute.

There are democracies all over the world and they function.

Now, just because some don't function  to your philosophy or imagination is not the issue with democracy, it may be the issue with you and your philosophy and imagination.

The average 7 year old knows they cannot have all they want. LOL

[QuebecOverCanada]

The average person with an actual human brain knows that in countries like Sweden, spending a few hundred euros too much on a dinner with tax dollars for a politician can break its career. Systems are different everywhere, and ours has a big flaw; we allow too much corruption as a nation, and not only on the federal level.

There is the potential to do better, by correcting the system, which is broken. We could for example have a dedicated permanent anti-corruption RCMP unit that would be funded extremely well to replace the Ethics Commission which in my book is a total farce.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, QuebecOverCanada said:

The average person with an actual human brain knows that in countries like Sweden, spending a few hundred euros too much on a dinner with tax dollars for a politician can break its career.

IMO the MSM drives that. 

In some countries members of the MSM would get their heads chopped off (Saudi/Iran) or go in front of an anti-aircraft gun for talking about that (shout out to KJU lol, he reputedly executed a family member like that), in some countries they'd get fired, in some countries they're just not allowed to do it or they'll be cancelled, and that's where we are in Canada. You can't work for CBC, CTV, Global News or the Toronto Star if you have a weird fixation with the truth.

If the libs expense a $1200 bottle of wine it will get a mention but the focus will quickly change to an 'evergreen' story like global warming, which they can trot out any time the want.

Even if the conservatives did it the MSM would eventually have to sideline the story because it would just fizzle. Our standard for a scandal is much higher.

Bottom line: In Canada it takes a $90k semi-scandal to get a conservative PM in front of a media firing squad, but a $1B scandal and the firing of an uppity first nations cabinet member wasn't enough to get a Lib PM in hot water. For Trudeau it took major scandals, minor scandals, bringing terrorists to dinner in India, getting in a pissing match with India, and inviting a Nazi to the HoC to get Trudeau in a bit of hot water.  

[myata]

Political system in this country is self-absorbed and bordering on dysfunctional.

Compare:

London Heathrow airport, two decades back: buses to terminal and the city; quite a mess; long commute to the city.

Now: automated entry check for UK+ countries, virtually no wait. A rapid train line to the city and a subway line integrated into London transit. Result: easy unobstructed travel from the plane to the center.

Canada, national capital (and pretty much everywhere) two decades back vs. now: virtually no change.

Why? Who cares? Who will notice? Go back to your sleep Joe, we'll handle it all for ya.

Edited November 4, 2023 by myata

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Political system in this country is self-absorbed and bordering on dysfunctional.

Compare:

London Heathrow airport, two decades back: buses to terminal and the city; quite a mess; long commute to the city.

Now: automated entry check for UK+ countries, virtually no wait. A rapid train line to the city and a subway line integrated into London transit. Result: easy unobstructed travel from the plane to the center.

Canada, national capital (and pretty much everywhere) two decades vs. now: virtually no change.

Why? Who cares? Who will notice? Go back to your sleep Joe, we'll handle it all for ya.

You are comparing a cities transport to airports to a federal government?

I travel in and out of Canada often and have never had a problem. Now, you don;'t even fill out customs forms anymore, The kiosk looks at your photo, answer 3 questions and away you go. Lots of changes, for the better.

You need to get out of your basement and off meds LOL

[myata]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

You are comparing a cities transport to airports to a federal government?

It's the same country, no?

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, myata said:

It's the same country, no?

Frack.....get back   your meds!!!!

[myata]

3 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

and have never had a problem.

Believe it or not, only a couple of years back there was no way in the national capital airport to purchase a transit ticket with a credit card. No way: one had to use the airport exchange at a robber-rate how else; or beg the assistance booth for loose change (but what if you arrived with a late flight?). A true story. How many bureaucrats had to take the taxi to go to international meetings and conferences in all that time, paid for from our pockets? Can you guess the order of magnitude of the budget? Not a single one noticed anything untoward. I took time to leave feedback after one such experience, so maybe thanks to me you're enjoying your flawless transit now?

Next to every small town in Europe including the Eastern part had contactless payment back then or at least card-operated ticket machines. Now we have it too, only a decade or so later. Hurray, the progress!

Edited November 4, 2023 by myata

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, myata said:

Believe it or not, only a couple of years back there was no way in the national capital airport to purchase a transit ticket with a credit card. No way: one had to use the airport exchange at a robber-rate how else; or beg the assistance booth for loose change (but what if you arrived with a late flight?). A true story. How many bureaucrats had to take the taxi to go to international meetings and conferences in all that time, paid for from our pockets? Can you guess the order of magnitude of the budget? Not a single one noticed anything untoward. I took time to leave feedback after one such experience, so maybe thanks to me you're enjoying your flawless transit now?

Next to every small town in Europe including the Eastern part had contactless payment back then or at least card-operated ticket machines. Now we have it too, only a decade or so later. Hurray, the progress!

WTF???

A bus ticket at the airport??  Your whining is about a bus ticket???

[myata]

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Your whining is about a bus ticket???

Right, such a minuscule trifle. Who cares about such nuggets, there are way more important and glorious things in the (bureaucrat's) mind. We have hordes of bureaucrats on three (at least) levels devising us grandiose plans, passing bills taking parts in the circus show period.. wait, for what, with what visible effect for the people? Wasn't that what the whole thing was about, in some times old and well forgotten?

[CdnFox]

On 11/2/2023 at 3:02 PM, Aristides said:

Try reading my post again.

Try reading the law.  THe helicopter ride was actually a crime.  The RCMP actually considered charges and has stated outright that they felt it was a crime but that they weren't sure if the prime minister has the right to give himself permission to commit that kind of crime

SNC was most likely a crime - but a lack of cooperation from the PM's people hiding behind parliamentary privilege prevented them from doing a proper investigation.

"corruption' frequently is a crime. Proving it when the culprit is the pm is harder.  That doesn't mean he didn't break the law.

[myata]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

they weren't sure if the prime minister has the right to give himself permission to commit that kind of crime

Wow! Hear that? Sounds like a truly advanced democratic system in this century.. like who else could have thought of that, and that way? Yes we can anything (up to and beyond plain incredible) if we put our minds and hands to it. What's next, by the way?

Edited November 5, 2023 by myata

[ExFlyer]

6 hours ago, myata said:

Right, such a minuscule trifle. Who cares about such nuggets, there are way more important and glorious things in the (bureaucrat's) mind. We have hordes of bureaucrats on three (at least) levels devising us grandiose plans, passing bills taking parts in the circus show period.. wait, for what, with what visible effect for the people? Wasn't that what the whole thing was about, in some times old and well forgotten?

Get with reality.

You are whining about buying a bus ticket, a local municipality thing...not democracy.

[myata]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

a local municipality thing...not democracy.

There's no connection, right. Why would a functional democracy be related to flawlessly running modern and comfortable transit for the citizens, not just 24/7 limos for public bureaucrats? Wait, what world was that, again?

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, myata said:

There's no connection, right. Why would a functional democracy be related to flawlessly running modern and comfortable transit for the citizens, not just 24/7 limos for public bureaucrats? Wait, what world was that, again?

Give it up girl, every time you try to justify your blathering, you get further down your rabbit hole LOL

[myata]

50 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

down your rabbit hole

This is exactly how this country will end up (or already)? No clue what the world in this century is like, how it works and not even interested, honest! Things are just great as they were at the dawn of the Confederation. They were made perfect from the start and no change will be needed like ever.. wait wasn't it a dinosaur?

[ExFlyer]

42 minutes ago, myata said:

This is exactly how this country will end up (or already)? No clue what the world in this century is like, how it works and not even interested, honest! Things are just great as they were at the dawn of the Confederation. They were made perfect from the start and no change will be needed like ever.. wait wasn't it a dinosaur?

Nope, it is only uninformed minions like you that dig and fall into the  rabbit holes. LOL

[myata]

51 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

only uninformed minions like

Means, "no only exact change is accepted" (21st century, honk honk) yes?

Edited November 5, 2023 by myata

[ExFlyer]

33 minutes ago, myata said:

Means, "no only exact change is accepted" (21st century, honk honk) yes?

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk...so sad you are the way you are. LOL

21st century people can do math and know what they are doing... seems you have fallen wayyyy behind.