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6 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You supported someone who said:

I said I would have to leave the forum if that became the case.  You thanked him.

And, of course, I would never countenance anyone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  So the answer to that one is a resounding "No".

So now you have the floor.  Please confirm/deny your support for pedophelia being celebrated here, (maybe you can remove your symbol of appreciation for the sentiment if you no longer feel it is appropriate) and provide evidence of someone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  I would hate to waste my outrage.

Are you really that stunned? I explained it to you already. Can't you f'n well read? 

Pedophiles can celebrate all they want here. That is because I do believe in freedom and freedom of speech. 

You really do not get out and around much, now do you. Their shoving of their pedophile butts in the front of children's faces can be seen on the many alternative media conservative websites. Even FOX NEWS has shown this to be true. 

I am getting tired of having to waste my valuable conservative time in trying to debate with dumb azz lefty liberals like you. Lefty liberals like yourself are truly an exercise in futility.  Just saying. ??

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3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Are you really that stunned? I explained it to you already. Can't you f'n well read? 

Pedophiles can celebrate all they want here. That is because I do believe in freedom and freedom of speech. 

You really do not get out and around much, now do you. Their shoving of their pedophile butts in the front of children's faces can be seen on the many alternative media conservative websites. Even FOX NEWS has shown this to be true. 

I am getting tired of having to waste my valuable conservative time in trying to debate with dumb azz lefty liberals like you. Lefty liberals like yourself are truly an exercise in futility.  Just saying. ??

I too believe in freedom of speech.  One of the few things I agree with Noam Chomksy on is freedom of speech.  He said something to the effect of:

'If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.'

He didn't say anything about sticking around to listen to it. (or read it, in the case of this forum) If he had, I would have disagreed with him.  So if you get your way, and pedophiles celebrate all they want here, I would leave.  Nothing to do with their freedom of expression.  Just me exercising mine.

As for your contention that:

Their shoving of their pedophile butts in the front of children's faces can be seen on the many alternative media conservative websites. Even FOX NEWS has shown this to be true. 

Please provide one example.  After all, this is something I am more than willing to agree with you on.  One would think you would be happy to have some unequivocal support on the issue.

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9 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I too believe in freedom of speech.  One of the few things I agree with Noam Chomksy on is freedom of speech.  He said something to the effect of:

'If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all.'

He didn't say anything about sticking around to listen to it. (or read it, in the case of this forum) If he had, I would have disagreed with him.  So if you get your way, and pedophiles celebrate all they want here, I would leave.  Nothing to do with their freedom of expression.  Just me exercising mine.

As for your contention that:

Their shoving of their pedophile butts in the front of children's faces can be seen on the many alternative media conservative websites. Even FOX NEWS has shown this to be true. 

Please provide one example.  After all, this is something I am more than willing to agree with you on.  One would think you would be happy to have some unequivocal support on the issue.

Just google and punch in on your computer - pedophiles in schools - and you will get all that you will need to see and learn as to what pedophiles are doing in schools. FOX NEWS for one is a good start. It's hard to believe that you need to have me post something about pedophiles when it is on the internet everywhere for all to see and read. Hello? 

What year are you living in right now? 1980? You need to get with the times. It's August 24th, 2023. I hope that will help you out here. ?

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8 minutes ago, taxme said:

Just google and punch in on your computer - pedophiles in schools - and you will get all that you will need to see and learn as to what pedophiles are doing in schools. FOX NEWS for one is a good start. It's hard to believe that you need to have me post something about pedophiles when it is on the internet everywhere for all to see and read. Hello? 

What year are you living in right now? 1980? You need to get with the times. It's August 24th, 2023. I hope that will help you out here. ?

I'm not the one making the claim.  If you want to support your claim, as I have requested, then please do. 

If you don't, I will assume that you can't, and that your claim has no merit.

 

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15 hours ago, bcsapper said:

You supported someone who said:

I said I would have to leave the forum if that became the case.  You thanked him.

And, of course, I would never countenance anyone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  So the answer to that one is a resounding "No".

So now you have the floor.  Please confirm/deny your support for pedophelia being celebrated here, (maybe you can remove your symbol of appreciation for the sentiment if you no longer feel it is appropriate) and provide evidence of someone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  I would hate to waste my outrage.

Pedophelia IS supported at this forum by the left wingers.

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6 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Pedophelia IS supported at this forum by the left wingers.

Show me one who agrees with this:

On 8/19/2023 at 11:33 AM, reason10 said:

I have no problem with pedophelia being celebrated  here. It's a free speech forum.

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Just now, bcsapper said:

Show me one who agrees with this:

Every liberal here who voted for Biden. He is a pedophile. If you voted for him, you support pedophelia.

Every liberal here who complained about Florida's Parental Rights In Education Act.

Every liberal here who supports allowing Trans queers to go to elementary schools to groom students with dance routines that in a night club would have a no-minors-allowed policy.

They ALL support pedophelia. And they all support people who should be required to register as sex offenders and not be allowed within a mile of ANY public school.
 

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14 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Every liberal here who voted for Biden. He is a pedophile. If you voted for him, you support pedophelia.

Every liberal here who complained about Florida's Parental Rights In Education Act.

Every liberal here who supports allowing Trans queers to go to elementary schools to groom students with dance routines that in a night club would have a no-minors-allowed policy.

They ALL support pedophelia. And they all support people who should be required to register as sex offenders and not be allowed within a mile of ANY public school.
 

Can you point one out who agrees with this:

On 8/19/2023 at 11:33 AM, reason10 said:

I have no problem with pedophelia being celebrated  here. It's a free speech forum.

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2 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Can you point one out who agrees with this:

The bit about pedophelia being discussed here?

I know you Nazis have a problem with free speech, and the world is fortunate that there are so few of you azzholes in the United States.

More people should be discussing pedophelia, since our current UNELECTED PRESIDENT is a pedophile and supports chldl sex. And those who voted for this creep ALSO support child sex.

 

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15 minutes ago, reason10 said:

The bit about pedophelia being discussed here?

I know you Nazis have a problem with free speech, and the world is fortunate that there are so few of you azzholes in the United States.

More people should be discussing pedophelia, since our current UNELECTED PRESIDENT is a pedophile and supports chldl sex. And those who voted for this creep ALSO support child sex.

 

No, the problem is you don't understand the concept of free speech.  For instance, I would never try and advocate for any kind of government initiated sanction on a holocaust denier.  But I would not expect a site like this to allow a celebration of such denial, (the site owner's freedom of speech) and I certainly wouldn't stick around if it did. (My freedom of speech)

You said:

On 8/19/2023 at 11:33 AM, reason10 said:

I have no problem with pedophelia being celebrated  here. It's a free speech forum.

which is not a simple message of support for freedom of speech, but rather an encouragement for a criminal act to be celebrated on this site. 

That's why I said I would have to leave if you had your way.

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On 8/19/2023 at 11:12 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Maybe someone can point out what's wrong with that book?

It's pretty cynical to use the school system solely to punish liberals because you don't like them.

HAAAHAHAHAHAAAHA!!!!!  Yeah - it's the LEFT wing that the schools punish :) ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

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No, the problem is you don't understand the concept of free speech. 

Yes I do, you uneducated mor0n. The First Amendment was not written to protect popular speech. It was written to protect unpopular speech.

For instance, I would never try and advocate for any kind of government initiated sanction on a holocaust denier.

But you would put climate change deniers in concentration camps, Adolf.

But I would not expect a site like this to allow a celebration of such denial, (the site owner's freedom of speech) and I certainly wouldn't stick around if it did. (My freedom of speech)

You deny all things decent and America.

which is not a simple message of support for freedom of speech, but rather an encouragement for a criminal act to be celebrated on this site. 

That's why I said I would have to leave if you had your way.

Joe and Hunter are criminals You Nazis support and defend them at every turn. You encourage criminal acts every time you open your collective pie holes.

 

 

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18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

On the last page I asked anyone to point out what's wrong with this book.

No one did.

 

Probably the reason why the educated posters haven't responded to that stupid question is because the FIRST POST of this thread explained it.

The book is on gender identity. That means it DEFIES SCIENCE, because there are only TWO genders in humans. When there are alleged sex change operations there are only TWO sexes to choose from, so MEDICAL SCIENCE disagrees that there are more than two genders.

Secondly, this is not a book for elementary school children. They are CHILDREN, (you idi0t) which means they are TOO FUGGING YOUNG to have sex thrown in their faces when they need to be concentrating on educational subjects.

Why not just  let a teacher show kindergarteners DEEP THROAT, while we're at it, since you left wingers apparently have no problem with child sex?

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23 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

No, the problem is you don't understand the concept of free speech.  For instance, I would never try and advocate for any kind of government initiated sanction on a holocaust denier.  But I would not expect a site like this to allow a celebration of such denial, (the site owner's freedom of speech) and I certainly wouldn't stick around if it did. (My freedom of speech)

I'm afraid that suggests that YOU are the one who doesn't understand free speech.

free speech is literally the right to speak freely without fear of retribution. To hold and discuss ideas without being punished for having them. And if some !diot wants to promote them and talk about how great holocaust denial is on a forum like this, if you believe in free speech you would support his right to say that. Even "celebrate" it , whatever that means (is there a national denier's day?).

You can leave if you are too weak to hear ideas you disagree with at that point.  And you are certainly able to share your own views or your views on the !diot's views.  But the very fact you think the site shouldn't "allow" it says that you don't really support free speech. Speech that offends you should not be 'allowed'.

The only speech that should not be allowed is speech that calls for or supports illegal acts

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18 hours ago, bcsapper said:

You supported someone who said:

I said I would have to leave the forum if that became the case.  You thanked him.

And, of course, I would never countenance anyone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  So the answer to that one is a resounding "No".

So now you have the floor.  Please confirm/deny your support for pedophelia being celebrated here, (maybe you can remove your symbol of appreciation for the sentiment if you no longer feel it is appropriate) and provide evidence of someone going into schools and flaunting their butts in front of little children.  I would hate to waste my outrage.

You left wingers support crime, pedophelia, drug use, extortion, prostitution, and all other sorts of left wing Democrat favorites. I'm not willing to ADOLF HITLER the left's right to discuss those items, but I reserve the right to get in their faces with the facts and argue with them.

That's how free speech works. It's a messy world, son.   Not everything you read or discuss will agree with you.

If you want to leave this forum because you didn't get your way, by all means. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

(We all know you won't be leaving because you started a new job.)

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18 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

On the last page I asked anyone to point out what's wrong with this book.

No one did.

 

The fact you'd need to ask speaks poorly of you,  At the end of the day it's not allowed and they chose to read it anyway. He can seek to change policy, but if a school says 'this book is too sexual for children" and you read it anyway  you deserve to be fired.  Being not allowed is more than enough to be 'wrong' with the book.

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8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm afraid that suggests that YOU are the one who doesn't understand free speech.

free speech is literally the right to speak freely without fear of retribution. To hold and discuss ideas without being punished for having them. And if some !diot wants to promote them and talk about how great holocaust denial is on a forum like this, if you believe in free speech you would support his right to say that. Even "celebrate" it , whatever that means (is there a national denier's day?).

You can leave if you are too weak to hear ideas you disagree with at that point.  And you are certainly able to share your own views or your views on the !diot's views.  But the very fact you think the site shouldn't "allow" it says that you don't really support free speech. Speech that offends you should not be 'allowed'.

The only speech that should not be allowed is speech that calls for or supports illegal acts

No, I understand the concept perfectly.  You do not.  I never said a holocaust denier could not attempt to celebrate his views on here.  In fact, I do support his right to say that.  (See earlier agreement with Chomsky quote)

I said the site's host had no obligation to let him.  You have no obligation to let him tattoo his views on your forehead either.  I also said I would not stick around on a site that hosted a celebration of holocuast denial.  That would be me exercising my freedom of speech (or expression, if you like) by ignoring someone and moving on.  I do that every day on this site, when I refuse to respond to a fool.

If you think allowing freedom of speech for one includes mandating others stick around and listen you are mistaken.

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13 minutes ago, reason10 said:

You left wingers support crime, pedophelia, drug use, extortion, prostitution, and all other sorts of left wing Democrat favorites. I'm not willing to ADOLF HITLER the left's right to discuss those items, but I reserve the right to get in their faces with the facts and argue with them.

That's how free speech works. It's a messy world, son.   Not everything you read or discuss will agree with you.

If you want to leave this forum because you didn't get your way, by all means. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

(We all know you won't be leaving because you started a new job.)

Like I said, I would certainly leave if you got your way vis-à-vis the celebration of pedophilia on the site.

That's how free speech works.

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Just now, bcsapper said:

No, I understand the concept perfectly.  You do not. 

I'm rubber you're glue!!  Pthtbtbtbt :) You'll have to do better than that,


 

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I never said a holocaust denier could not attempt to celebrate his views on here.  In fact, I do support his right to say that.  (See earlier agreement with Chomsky quote)

I said the site's host had no obligation to let him.  You have no obligation to let him tattoo his views on your forehead either.  I also said I would not stick around on a site that hosted a celebration of holocuast denial.  That would be me exercising my freedom of speech (or expression, if you like) by ignoring someone and moving on.  I do that every day on this site, when I refuse to respond to a fool.

If you think allowing freedom of speech for one includes mandating others stick around and listen you are mistaken.

 

Your literal quote was:  "But I would not expect a site like this to allow a celebration of such denial,"

You very literally said you would expect that the owner of this site would not allow such a thing to be said. Which incidentally has nothing to do with his 'freedom of speech'.

So you DID say a holocaust denier could not celebrate his views here,   And you are full of shit when you say you support it - you clearly don't.

You did not say 'well the site COULD choose,.. "  You indicated they SHOULD choose.

You obviously don't approve of free speech when it's speech you don't like, and you are now trying to be both FOR and AGAINST it at the same time. Say hi to Schrodinger for us :)

As to the fact of it - if they didn't they would be denying free speech.  They can do that in a forum they own but it WOULD be repression of free speech,   "Ideas i don't like are not welcone".  That's what it would be,

It's  hilarious how fond you lefties are of repressing speech you don't like while demanding that your own rights to free speech be respected. 

 

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm rubber you're glue!!  Pthtbtbtbt :) You'll have to do better than that,

I did.  You followed with it.

 

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Your literal quote was:  "But I would not expect a site like this to allow a celebration of such denial,"

You very literally said you would expect that the owner of this site would not allow such a thing to be said. Which incidentally has nothing to do with his 'freedom of speech'.

That's right, I did.  Because he would be free to not do so.

 

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you DID say a holocaust denier could not celebrate his views here,   And you are full of shit when you say you support it - you clearly don't.

No I did not.  You have lost already, only two posts in, so you have started making stuff up.  I expected a couple more posts first.

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You obviously don't approve of free speech when it's speech you don't like, and you are now trying to be both FOR and AGAINST it at the same time. Say hi to Schrodinger for us :)

Yeah, because disapproval has everything to do with freedom of speech.

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As to the fact of it - if they didn't they would be denying free speech.  They can do that in a forum they own but it WOULD be repression of free speech,   "Ideas i don't like are not welcone".  That's what it would be,

It's  hilarious how fond you lefties are of repressing speech you don't like while demanding that your own rights to free speech be respected.

This is just nonsense.  Filler.

Anyway, to save us both some time, go straight to the point where you have obviously won, and I know that I have lost, and then pretend I have told you you're full of shit and given you the last word. As usual.

Then you can go complete chess playing pigeon with your last post.

 

 

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1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

I did.  You followed with it

 

Nope - all you did from there was dodge the issue.

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That's right, I did.  Because he would be free to not do so.

But that's not what you said.  You said the guy shoudnl't be allowed to.

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No I did not.  You have lost already, only two posts in, so you have started making stuff up.  I expected a couple more posts first.

You did say that. 

I get why you're trying to backpeddal now. Your hypocrisy is clear for all to see and you're trying to re-write it.

Lets be clear. You did not say "the owner would be writhin his rights to suppress that person's speech" - you said "I would HOPE he would suppress such speech."

Which proves you don't understand free speech and you don't support it.  A person who DID support it  might say "the owner COULD suppress such speech but i would HOPE THEY DIDN'T.

And this is the typical version of "left wing free speech"  - "I support free speech as long as you're not allowed to talk" :) 

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5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

HAAAHAHAHAHAAAHA!!!!!  Yeah - it's the LEFT wing that the schools punish :) ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Well didn't you just say that the School Board will be firing people for using the 'wrong' bathroom soon ?

Isn't this about making the Board of Ed reflect the politics of the government, whether you agree with them or not ?

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5 hours ago, reason10 said:

Probably the reason why the educated posters haven't responded to that stupid question is because the FIRST POST of this thread explained it.

The book is on gender identity. That means it DEFIES SCIENCE, because there are only TWO genders in humans. When there are alleged sex change operations there are only TWO sexes to choose from, so MEDICAL SCIENCE disagrees that there are more than two genders.

Secondly, this is not a book for elementary school children. They are CHILDREN, (you idi0t) which means they are TOO FUGGING YOUNG to have sex thrown in their faces when they need to be concentrating on educational subjects.

Why not just  let a teacher show kindergarteners DEEP THROAT, while we're at it, since you left wingers apparently have no problem with child sex?

What specifically in that book is so objectionable ?  You are making general comments about it but can you pick out a sentence or page even ?  It seems to be about accepting diversity to me.  There's no science in it, and it's ridiculous to compare to DT.  

If you can't make your point without calling me a name there may be problems with your argument that you're compensating for.

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