CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: That didn't prevent you people from comparing Ottawa to Tiananmen Square and Trudeau to the bloodiest dictators in history. So? A dictator can always be compared to a dictator. Quote You do more backpeddling than a unicyclist. ROFLAMO - i havent' backpedaled once YOU are the one who claimed people said trudeau ran the world and then had to admit that wasn't true, THEN claimed that people said trudeau controlled the WEF and had to admit THAT wasnt' true, THEN claimed tanks were sent to the protest before having to admit that wasn't true, Did you want me to get you a little horn to honk on that unicycle of yours? LOLOLOL!!! Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Moonbox said: We use our macroeconometric forecasting model to identify the causes of the rise in inflation since the end of 2019 and the required monetary response. A number of key observations flow from our work: a. Around 50% of the increase in inflation observed since the end of 2019 can be ascribed to global or foreign factors. These include US inflation, commodity prices and movements in the exchange rate. b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. https://www.scotiabank.com/ca/en/about/economics/economics-publications/post.other-publications.inflation-reports.causes-of-inflation--december-5--2022.html Unfortunately for you, the economists who actually know anything about inflation tell a very different story than your clueless bullshitting. ? The economists agree with me entirely. In the 2021 - mid 2022 (the date fo the report) HALF of the inflation was from external sources, and HALF was from trudeau's policy dealing with issues that other countries also wrestled with . That's what "reflected' means. So even then half of it was under trudeau's direct control. Further - it notes htat a very substantial portion of the rise in interest rates was trudeau's fault. Further the same bank says if the liberals had cut spending we woudln't have this mess. TODAY - more than half the inflation/interest issue is direclty due to bad decisions made by the pm. In our macro model, a fall of Canadian government expenditures in goods and services decreases the output gap and, therefore, inflation. Consequently, the Bank of Canada would need to tighten its policy rates by less to achieve the same path of inflation if governments persistently reduce their consumption expenditures (chart 1) Now you know this - and you know that NOW things are even MORE trudeau's fault. So why do you feel the need to lie? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
herbie Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 Can't sarcasticly use hyperbole on people who don't understand when they're constantly using it themselves and thinking it's truth. We're speaking of people who have imagined a way that a Minority leader in a Parliamentary democracy can be a dictator. Of working class people insisting that a Party that represents their interests even less than the Libs would be an improvement. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, herbie said: Can't sarcasticly use hyperbole on people who don't understand when they're constantly using it themselves and thinking it's truth. We're speaking of people who have imagined a way that a Minority leader in a Parliamentary democracy can be a dictator. Of working class people insisting that a Party that represents their interests even less than the Libs would be an improvement. What are you even talking about? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So? A dictator can always be compared to a dictator. A dictator...? 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: YOU are the one who claimed people said trudeau ran the world and then had to admit that wasn't true, THEN claimed that people said trudeau controlled the WEF and had to admit THAT wasnt' true, THEN claimed tanks were sent to the protest before having to admit that wasn't true. I'm simply pointing out that you people have been attributing these ridiculous things to Trudeau for years now. Seriously, you deny that? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: What are you even talking about? You, your stupid ilk and it's stupider way of looking at the world. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, eyeball said: A dictator...? And once again you can't argue it - so you post your little 'i'm crying again' icon Trudeau is more akin to a dictator than a prime minister at this point. His party is afraid to oppose him, he's put his flunkies in positions of power. Jaggers is afraid to oppose him and does what he's told. And he suspended the rights of citizens and used his power to sieze their assets to punish them for supporting a lawful protest. If it looks like a dictator, and quacks like a dictator ... I know - i know. You hate it when your beloved leader whom you defend constantly that you've never voted for looks bad LOL 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You, your stupid ilk and it's stupider way of looking at the world. WOAH!!!! Triggered Trudeau supporter is triggered!!! Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And once again you can't argue it - so you post your little 'i'm crying again' icon That's a laughing icon you stupid dingbat. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Trudeau is more akin to a dictator than a prime minister at this point. His party is afraid to oppose him, he's put his flunkies in positions of power. Jaggers is afraid to oppose him and does what he's told. And he suspended the rights of citizens and used his power to sieze their assets to punish them for supporting a lawful protest. Yes, this is how constitutional monarchies work. Where have you been? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I know - i know. You hate it when your beloved leader whom you defend constantly that you've never voted for looks bad. I love it when you insist there's nothing anyone can or should do to put in checks and balances against the sort of corruption Trudeau engages in. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yes, this is how constitutional monarchies work. Where have you been? Well not exactly - but in this case it allows him to be a bit of dictator. So there you go 1 minute ago, eyeball said: I love it when you insist there's nothing anyone can or should do to put in checks and balances against the sort of corruption Trudeau engages in. Well that's never happened has it. Post anywhere i've ever said that there's nothing that can be done. What i said is that if the voters are willing to accept corruption (looking at you) then nothing else will matter. And that's the truth Something can be done - voters can do their jobs. Then we can definitely do something Shall i add this to your pile of lies along with 'trudeau sent tanks to the bouncy-castle protest and controls the WEF"? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: What i said is that if the voters are willing to accept corruption (looking at you) then nothing else will matter. Which is the biggest cop out and pile of shit I've ever heard in defence of the status quo. Edited August 28, 2023 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 "Based on 18 carbon taxes from Europe and Canada enacted over the last three decades, they find, on average, that carbon taxes did not lead to increasing inflation." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01673-w "Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem made it clear in May 2022 in a reply to the House of Commons finance committee, that federal carbon taxes that were $50 per tonne added 0.4 percentage points to Canada's realized inflation rate." https://financialpost.com/opinion/carbon-taxes-bank-of-canada-job-harder "The researchers found no significant impact of carbon taxes on inflation in Europe, and a slight deflationary impact in Canada" https://centreforfuturework.ca/2023/05/08/no-correlation-between-inflation-and-carbon-pricing/ "find that carbon taxes do not have to be inflationary, and may even be deflationary. Our evidence suggests that the increase in energy prices was more than offset by a fall in the prices of services and other non-tradables. Our results are consistent across Canadian provinces and European countries, and survive various robustness checks. At least in case of British Columbia, a contraction in household incomes and expenditures, in particular among the richer households, could explain the deflationary effect. " https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/carbon-taxation-and-inflation-evidence-europe-and-canada Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Shall i add this to your pile of lies along with 'trudeau sent tanks to the bouncy-castle protest and controls the WEF"? No add it to stories like these... Trudeau, Liberals creating a 'Tiananmen square' scene: Victor Davis Hanson Feb 16, 2022 — Washington Post harasses Canada trucker donors, Trudeau seizes crypto ... Tiananmen Square scene where they're in the tank and the truckers... https://www.foxnews.com/media/trudeau-liberals-tiananmen-square-victor-davis-hanson.amp Trudeau Watching Old Footage Of Tiananmen Square For Ideas Canada has had its own version of Tiananmen Square | Letters to the Editor Feb 22, 2022 — We're witnessing a wave of global tyranny; most recently, Justin Trudeau's version of Tiananmen Square. One has only to access the speech of ... https://www.galvnews.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/article_fca06af7-d846-5464-b4b8-23e6b7bab95c.html Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, eyeball said: No add it to stories like these... Trudeau, Liberals creating a 'Tiananmen square' scene: Victor Davis Hanson Feb 16, 2022 — Washington Post harasses Canada trucker donors, Trudeau seizes crypto ... Tiananmen Square scene where they're in the tank and the truckers... https://www.foxnews.com/media/trudeau-liberals-tiananmen-square-victor-davis-hanson.amp Trudeau Watching Old Footage Of Tiananmen Square For Ideas Canada has had its own version of Tiananmen Square | Letters to the Editor Feb 22, 2022 — We're witnessing a wave of global tyranny; most recently, Justin Trudeau's version of Tiananmen Square. One has only to access the speech of ... https://www.galvnews.com/opinion/letters_to_editor/article_fca06af7-d846-5464-b4b8-23e6b7bab95c.html So you want me to mark it as just one of your regular lies rather than part of your specific topic lies? Got it SO - trudeau still didn't send tanks to the protest did he. LOL Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: "Based on 18 carbon taxes from Europe and Canada enacted over the last three decades, they find, on average, that carbon taxes did not lead to increasing inflation." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-023-01673-w "Bank of Canada Governor Tiff Macklem made it clear in May 2022 in a reply to the House of Commons finance committee, that federal carbon taxes that were $50 per tonne added 0.4 percentage points to Canada's realized inflation rate." https://financialpost.com/opinion/carbon-taxes-bank-of-canada-job-harder "The researchers found no significant impact of carbon taxes on inflation in Europe, and a slight deflationary impact in Canada" https://centreforfuturework.ca/2023/05/08/no-correlation-between-inflation-and-carbon-pricing/ "find that carbon taxes do not have to be inflationary, and may even be deflationary. Our evidence suggests that the increase in energy prices was more than offset by a fall in the prices of services and other non-tradables. Our results are consistent across Canadian provinces and European countries, and survive various robustness checks. At least in case of British Columbia, a contraction in household incomes and expenditures, in particular among the richer households, could explain the deflationary effect. " https://cepr.org/voxeu/columns/carbon-taxation-and-inflation-evidence-europe-and-canada Your sources are confusing, you have 3 sources saying carbon prices are not inflationary... and the Bank of Canada governor saying they are, and the financial post article destroys everything the other 3 are sayin... Some of the articles are old and outdated, for instance carbon tax is already at 14 cents, the new clean fuel tax adds another 17 cents, and the soon to be clean energy tax is yet to be posted....People are not curtailing driving, eating or getting services...in fact it has all increased. As suggested by the slight rise in our GDP figures. Then factor in the need to make a profit and shit rises quickly...diesel fuel is now at 2.00 a liter, with gas at 1.91, here in NB, thats a 30 cents plus rise in 3 weeks ... So my question is this, how could it not be inflationary, please someone explain this to me.... if everything comes by road or plane, we can very clearly see that every product consume and every service given has gone up by atleast 30 to 40 cents... Then some of your articles are blaming the fall of wages, i mean really, just the worker shortage has seen companies not only offering more than fair wages but benefits as well, i'd be interested to see what industry is facing wage decreases.... this year has been a record year for strikes everyone demanding wage increases, and getting them, so how it questions their conclusions. The whole conclusion sounds a like a huge deflection, trying to make a sh*t sandwich smell good, when our taste buds are defiantly screaming taste like shit... Perhaps it is just me, not having a clue about economics... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: Can't sarcasticly use hyperbole on people who don't understand when they're constantly using it themselves and thinking it's truth. We're speaking of people who have imagined a way that a Minority leader in a Parliamentary democracy can be a dictator. Of working class people insisting that a Party that represents their interests even less than the Libs would be an improvement. Please explain it to the slow guy in the room, how is this nation going to be better off than any other party we have under liberals' leadership......maybe explain to us what the Liberals have really done in the last 8 years, and what would we be looking at for the next 4 years... I personal think my sons pet fish would make a better PM, atleast they have the same goals swim round and round without getting anything really done... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/24/2023 at 2:00 PM, Moonbox said: b. Supply challenges that largely reflect developments at the global level account for another 35% of the rise in inflation. So supply challenges at the global level are "internal", which is Trudeau's fault...? Dumb dumb dumb. Just a comment, who would we blame for all our emergency supply being outdated thrown out but never replaced, plus what about our critical medication manufacture ability...not to mention our very limited ability to produce vaccines...nobody was expecting the covid crises i get that but it is the government responsibility to atleast be some what prepare...shit we even have a minister for it, I'm sure there are a lot of things the government dropped the ball on...but to say Justin fingers are not dirty is not true, he may not own the entire cluster F*ck but they did have some responsabilty in it all Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: SO - trudeau still didn't send tanks to the protest did he. Of course he didn't. Are you f**king nuts or something? Lol! 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Posted August 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Of course he didn't. Are you f**king nuts or something? Lol! that was your claim little guy if you backpeddal any faster you might very well break the sound barrier Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: that was your claim little guy Go blow it out your ass. I claimed no such thing at all. ? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Posted August 29, 2023 Just now, eyeball said: Go blow it out your ass. I claimed no such thing at all. Of course you did - and i mentioned at the time it made you look like a re-tard You said that people believe that trudeau had the power to send the tanks into the convoy protest. But - nobody ever said that but you. Sooo there you go And once again you look like a re-tard and somehow it's MY fault in your mind Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: You said that people believe that trudeau had the power to send the tanks into the convoy protest. That's right, you even said you believe it yourself. 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: A dictator can always be compared to a dictator. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 29, 2023 Author Report Posted August 29, 2023 32 minutes ago, eyeball said: That's right, you even said you believe it yourself. "A dictator can always be compared to a dictator" Umm - the word 'tank" isn't in there So i didn't say that trudeau sent tanks to the convoy did i ROFLMAO - Hahah - this is my favorite bit - where you get so emotionally damaged you just start spouting nonesense LOL - you always melt like a crayon in the sun when people call you on your bull Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 29, 2023 Report Posted August 29, 2023 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So i didn't say that trudeau sent tanks to the convoy did i Nope. I said you believed he had the power to. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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