Probable Cause Found for all 10 Indictments in Georgia.

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1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Nothing?

Nothing.

$25 million fraud judgement Isn’t ‘nothing”

It's absolutely 'nothing' to do with politics.  Sorry

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$5 million rape/defamation judgement isn’t “nothing.”

Absolutely nothing. - doesn't have a thing to do with his poltiical life.

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91 felony charges in two states plus federally isn’t “nothing”

LESS than nothing.   Pathetic you would even bring it up.' If anything - that many charges with zero convictions would be proof that the left is on a witch hunt and deserves it if he comes after them.

 

Ya got nothing so far kiddo.  No "collusion", couldn't make any of the impeachments stick, where's that obstruction of justice conviction we were promised...  so far you've struck out more than an entire season of baseball sees.

When you actually win something we can discuss it but so far it's been 7 years of whine whine whine with NOTHING to show for it.   And the guy's very likely going to be president again.

[Rebound]

46 minutes ago, West said:

What's even more disgraceful behavior from the stalinists is the targeting of lawyers for representing their clients. What kind of country tolerates the intimidation of lawyers? What a corrupt country. 

The prosecutor ran on a platform of getting Donnie. No conspiracy theory at all

Again, you did not read the indictment. 
Example:  An email from John Eastman the day after filing an election challenge in a Georgia court, stating that he knew that at least some of the evidence he stated in the filing was false. 

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2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Again, you did not read the indictment. 
Example:  An email from John Eastman the day after filing an election challenge in a Georgia court, stating that he knew that at least some of the evidence he stated in the filing was false. 

Again' we've been hearing this stuff for 7 years.  I'm sure you've heard the story of the boy who cried Trump.

When there's an actual conviction of wrongdoing from him with regards to his political life then we can talk but so far it's been the better part of a decade of criminal attempts to go after him and outright lies so don't expect anyone to take you seriously.

If this stuff can stand up in court then we'll have something to talk about but right now its the same old shit thats' proven to be false again and again and again to date.

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6 hours ago, West said:

What crimes? 

It's gibberish nonsense trying to intimidate people from speaking out against corruption. 

No one is "trying to intimidate people from speaking out" except the judges who have ruled Trump CANNOT THREATEN witnesses, prosecutors nor jury members. 

Thing is, there was NO CORRUPTION beyond Trump's coercion to change the vote count in GA, and that was ILLEGAL.

He can and did "speak out" IN COURT. Sending a mob to the Capitol to stop the EC vote count ("stop the steal") is ILLEGAL.

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“Just Say That the Election Was Corrupt, and Leave the Rest to Me”: In Georgia, Donald Trump Appears Beyond F--ked

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Trump was plotting to overturn the election before the election even happened

As Fulton County district attorney Fani Willis indictment notes, Trump’s false claim on November 4, 2020, that he had won the election was not some off-the-cuff, spur-of-the-moment declaration made in the heat of the moment.

Rather, approximately four days earlier, on or about October 31, 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP discussed a draft speech with unindicted co-conspirator Individual l…that falsely declared victory and falsely claimed voter fraud. The speech was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

Trump and then chief of staff Mark Meadows wanted an actual memo written re: blocking the certification of Joe Biden’s win

Note to anyone thinking of trying to overturn a free and fair election: maybe don’t commit your plan to pen and paper? From the indictment:

On or between the 1st day of December 2020 and the 31st day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP and MARK RANDALL MEADOWS met with John McEntee and requested that McEntee prepare a memorandum outlining a strategy for disrupting and delaying the joint session of Congress on January 6, 2021, the day prescribed by law for counting votes cast by the duly elected and qualified presidential electors from Georgia and the other states. The strategy included having Vice President Michael R. Mike Pence count only half of the electoral votes from certain states and then return the remaining electoral votes to state legislatures. The request was an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.

Trump’s henchmen told a whole bunch of patently absurd lies—which they knew were lies—to Georgia state lawmakers

Here’s Willis on Rudy Giuliani, and just one of the many instances in which he allegedly told a bunch of ridiculous lies in an attempt to keep Trump in power:

On or about the 3rd day of December 2020, RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI committed the felony offense of FALSE STATEMENTS AND WRITINGS, in violation of O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20, in-Fulton County, Georgia, by knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making at least one of the following false statements and representations to members of the Georgia Senate present at a Senate Judiciary Subcommittee meeting:

1. That at least 96,600 mail-in ballots were counted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia, despite there being no record of those ballots having been returned to a county elections office.
2. That Dominion Voting Systems equipment used in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Antrim County, Michigan, mistakenly recorded 6,000 votes for Joseph R. Biden when the votes were actually cast for Donald John Trump.

And here she is again on the man once known as America’s mayor:

On or about the 10th day of December 2020, RUDOLPH WILLIAM LOUIS GIULIANI committed the felony offense of FALSE STATEMENTS AND WRITINGS, in violation of O.C.G.A. § 16-10-20, in Fulton County, Georgia, by knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making at least one of the following false statements and representations to members of the Georgia House of Representatives present at a House Governmental Affairs Committee meeting:

1. That it is quite clear from the State Farm Arena video from November 3, 2020, that Fulton County election workers were stealing votes and that Georgia officials were covering up a crime in plain sight
2. That at State Farm Arena on November 3, 2020, Democratic officials got rid of all of the reporters, all the observers, anyone that couldn’t be trusted, used the excuse of a watermain break, cleared out the voting area and then went about their dirty, crooked business
3. That between 12,000 and 24,000 ballots were illegally counted by Fulton County election workers at State Farm Arena on November 3, 2020
4. That in Michigan, there were 700,000 more ballots counted than were sent out to voters in the November 3, 2020, presidential election, which was accounted for by quadruple counting ballots
5. That Ruby Freeman, Shaye Moss, and an unidentified man were quite obviously surreptitiously passing around USB ports as if they’re vials of heroin or cocaine at State Farm Arena to be used to infiltrate the crooked Dominion voting machines
6. That 96,600 mail-in ballots were counted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia, despite there being no record of those ballots having been returned to a county elections office

The phone call heard round the world

Remember when Donald Trump called up Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger and demanded the state official magically find the specific number of votes needed to overturn Biden’s win in Georgia? Well, Willis does—and she says it constituted a felony, as did other things said on the call:

On or about the 2nd day of January 2021, DONALD JOHN TRUMP committed the felony offense of FALSE STATEMENTS AND WRITINGS, in violation of O.C.G.A. § 16- 10-20, in Fulton County, Georgia, by knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully making at least one of the following false statements and representations to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Georgia Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs, and Georgia Secretary of State General Counsel Ryan Germany:
 

1. That anywhere from 250,000 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia
2. That thousands of people attempted to vote in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia and were told they could not because a ballot had already been cast in their name
3. That 4,502 people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia who were not on the voter registration list
4. That 904 people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia who were registered at an address that was a post office box
5. That Ruby Freeman was a professional vote scammer and a known political operative
6. That Ruby Freeman, her daughter, and others were responsible for fraudulently awarding at least 18,000 ballots to Joseph R. Biden at State Farm Arena in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia
7. That close to 5,000 dead people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia
8. That 139% of people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Detroit
9. That 200,000 more votes were recorded than the number of people who voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Pennsylvania
10. That thousands of dead people voted in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Michigan
11. That Ruby Freeman stuffed the ballot boxes
12. That hundreds of thousands of ballots had been dumped into Fulton County and another county adjacent to Fulton County in the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia
13. That he won the November 3, 2020, presidential election in Georgia by 400,000 votes.

Just say that the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me

According to the indictment, on or about the 27th day of December 2020, DONALD JOHN TRUMP solicited Acting United States Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen and Acting United States Deputy Attorney General Richard Donoghue to make a false statement by stating, ‘Just say that the election was corrupt, and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.'

Really, does it get any more incriminating than this?

Trump has insisted he did nothing wrong, claiming, as per usual, that he is the victim of a witch hunt. As for Giuliani, he recently said, "This is a completely unjustified and disgusting act of retribution, as I had the temerity to unveil the biggest scandal in American history—and for that, my parents are proud of me, and I don’t give a damn about the rest." 

 

 

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‘Trump isn’t funding any of us’: Co-defendants in Georgia case are struggling with mounting legal bills

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Some of Donald Trump’s co-defendants in the sprawling election subversion case in Georgia are trying all sorts of ways to fund their mounting legal bills – yet the costs of the 2020 election fallout may quickly exceed their abilities to pay.

Trump has covered the legal bills of aides, advisers and employees during the House select committee’s probe into January 6, 2021, and federal investigations, including his two co-defendants in the classified documents case, Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira, both of whom work for the former president.

But there is no sign yet that Trump intends to do so for any of his co-defendants in the Georgia case, which alleges that he and others engaged in a criminal conspiracy to subvert the state’s 2020 election results. In fact, Trump has publicly distanced himself from them, telling Newsmax he doesn’t know ‘a lot of these people.’ 

AKA, Trump just begging them to flip on HIM.

Edited September 7, 2023 by robosmith